The formula followed by the hockey team on their path to redemption seems to be
a good one to follow for the rugby team. I hope they have the wisdom to follow
it and to the extent they do, I wish them well.
Howard S.What exactly does finishing at or near the bottom of the
conference in every sport prove?Enjoy being a less-accomplished
version of the Northwestern of the BlG or the Vanderbilt of the SEC or the Iowa
St of the Big 12 because that's your future - a big boy wannabe.7-11 in football; 8-28 in basketball; 15-39 combined for a whopping 28%
winning percentage since joining the PAC 12.
Howard S."If a non-NCAA club sport championship or Directors Cup
rankings had any relevance in the modern era of college athletics Cougar Nation
wouldn't be sitting by waiting for a phone call from the PAC12 or the
BIG12."Actually, you're dead wrong - the reason BYU
isn't already a member of the PAC 12 or Big 12 has NOTHING to do with the
excellence of BYU's athletic programs; the reason BYU isn't already a
member of the PAC 12 or Big 12 is BYU's no Sunday play policy and the
religious bigotry of a few west coast schools.It's laughable
that Utah fans use their PAC 12 membership as proof of their athletic
"excellence", when the only thing the Utes have accomplished in nearly
two full seasons in the PAC 12 is to be a whipping boy for the big boys of the
conference.Unfortunately for U, BYU's "second tier"
accomplishments far exceed ANYTHING the Utes have accomplished in any PAC 12
sport. Remind us again how many conference championships the Utes have won since
joining the PAC 12. Have Utah's men finished out of the basement in ANY
Snack PACOlympus Cove, UtahIf a non-NCAA club sport
championship or Directors Cup rankings had any relevance in the modern era of
college athletics Cougar Nation wouldn't be sitting by waiting for a phone
call from the PAC12 or the BIG12.But sadly, the Cougar Nation is
relegated to admiring its second tier sports accomplishments... and hoping and
waiting for the phone to ring.
Current NACDA Director's Cup 2012-2013 Standings#45 BYU 308.00
points#63 Utah 228.75 pointsSince Utah is basically finished
for the year, for the 20th straight year, BYU will finish ahead of Utah in the
Director's Cup Standings, which measures overall athletic success.By the time Men's Volleyball, Track & Field, Baseball and Softball
are calculated into the mix, BYU will likely climb into the Top 30.
howie"Rugby... Really?What's that?"The subject of the article and just another sport in which our little
brother's accomplishments pale in comparison to BYU's.
Snack PACOlympus Cove, UtahRugby... Really?What's that?
howiePAC12 envy???Sorry, but BYU BEAT your PAC 12
conference mate, the most dominant college rugby program in the country the last
30 years, to win the 2013 national championship.For envious little
brother, see mirror.
DuckhunterHighland, UTLack of control?Unless
I'm missing something the University responded to infractions by suspending
both the hockey and the rugby programs.That's taking control...
not lack of control.I am curious, Mr. Duckhunter. Who appointed the
Duckhunter arbiter over which group or individuals are granted redemption and
which are not? But, in any case I understand where you're
coming from Mr.Duckhunter... blind PAC12 envy tends impair good judgement.
@howieThe actions of a single individual are hardly comparable to
the obvious wide spread lack of control of entire progams. Fail.
Looks like a lack of institutional control.
DuckhunterHighland, UTYour comment seems unreasonably
judgmental.The story sounds like a tale of redemption and working
hard to overcome mistakes of the past.I'm reminded of a couple
of high profile Cougar athletes (one football and one basketball)who overcame
mistakes and are now idolized and considered heros by the Cougar Nation.If Cougars can find redemption from past mistakes shouldn't Utes be
allowed the same opportunity?
Thanks for pointing out the pattern of bad behavior exibited by the club sports
programs at the university of utah over the last decade. It is certainly reason
to reconsider even allowing the university to sponsor club athletic teams. This
is not the sort of thing we need representing our state, it is an embarrassment.
Way to represent the university and our state guys.