Racial tensions rise in Moab after killing of Hispanic man

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  • politically unpolarized moab, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 3:15 a.m.

    It saddens me to see that while you are all disputing caucasian versus hispanic, you failed to notice the fact that one of the teens is an african american. I happen to know each of the defendants in a personal manner, and have run into the victim. And none of it was due to racism.

  • Phillip M Hotchkiss Malta, Mt
    May 12, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    The world would be a better place if all who was prejudiced was color blind.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    May 12, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    This situation points to several sad facts. Even small towns like Moab are not free from the stains of crime, drug trafficking or gang activity. In fact, history reflects a pattern of gangs and drug traffickers targeting small communities that has gone on for decades now. Sadly enough, they find interest in both their products and their attitudes. It also reflects the fact that these problems, once entrenched in a community, begin to cross racial or other traditional lines. These young men may have simply been trying to eliminate their competition. I hope that local law enforcement in the Moab area is aware and willing to investigate that possiblity.

    Equally true is that fact that those who come to the US illegally gravitate to small, out-of-the-way places like Moab knowing that Federal immigration enforcement is practically non-existent unless something outrageous occurs.

    None of that, however justifies cold blooded murder. We are either a nation of laws for all concerned or as previously voiced, we have anarchy which benefits no one.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 9, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    Trying to claim to know what others how choice to have the good sense to not attack a dead victim is thinking about that victims lifestyle only reinforces Georges point. If you are not able to make your point without attacking someone’s grammar errors and projecting opinions onto them that you find indefensible to try to force them onto the defensive or avoid actually addressing their argument then maybe you need to reexamine if your argument has any merit.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 9, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    Glad to see the soccer kid chartged as an adult. But his name was NOT released in the same manner or as fast as the Moab kids' names were. Perhaps the Grand County DA is not as afraid as Sim Gill (D) to seek justice, and that's why he did not delay. Perhaps Gill just defers too much to the PC crowd to seek justice on a latino youth, even though his vicitim was latino.

    I will adjust my assertion slightly to say it is extreme PC-ism by Gill to protect the latino in the soccer case; the same protection was not given the caucasian kids' identities.

    Did you mean "you're" instead of "your" for the contracted "you are"? And you are apprently OK with the guy cheating on his wife. THAT was the ONLY part of his character I mentioned.

  • George New York, NY
    May 8, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    it not i sorry

  • Bubble SLC, UT
    May 8, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    @ Lost in DC: Don't look now, but once the kid that killed the ref was formally charged, his name was released.

    The only conspiracy here is based on the Constitutional protections of the 5th Amendment. Or do you think everyone who is being investigated for a crime should have their names released before charges are filed?

  • George New York, NY
    May 8, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    sorry that last comment was directed at lost in dc and those attacking the victims character.

  • George New York, NY
    May 8, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    I could not have anything to do with maybe the fact the two from Moab have been charged as adults and the other kid has not could it? No your right it’s a conspiracy against Caucasians, it always is, right?
    As to the rest of your comment and the comments of others about the victim, attacking the victim’s character only shows the lack of your own not theirs.

  • sg newhall, CA
    May 8, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    This is why illegals remaining here will not work. The climate among American citizens towards illegals is escalating. We want them gone. We want them deported. We want them denied everything they falsely believe is theirs. Imagine 2.6 million illegals living in your state? That is what we have in California. Enough. They are a burden on everything from education to health care. It is a tragedy, but this is the tip of the iceberg.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 8, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    thinking more,
    yep, racism against the caucasions. either that or extreme PC-ism to protect the latino ref killer.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    May 8, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    What an incredibly horrible act these two boys committed. No matter if he was legal/illegal or married and cheating or not he didn't deserve to die. These boys have some serious issues and it makes me wonder how widespread this type of sentiment is in Moab...

  • Thinking more sandy, UT
    May 8, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    @Lost in DC... Really? Racism againts the caucasians? Two different counties, two different DA's, two different judges. Gee that couldn't have anything to do with it. Also this is a capital murder rather than manslaughter (i.e. these "boys" meant to kill the man, the 17 yr. old most likely didn't).

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 8, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    First off, vigilantism is NOT the answer to illegal immigration.

    Now for some observations:
    The victim was the boyfriend to one of the boy’s mother. I thought he was here to work and send money back to Mexico to his WIFE and children. More to this story than racism

    The DN and prosecutors are naming the caucasian SIXTEEN year old boys involved here, but are NOT naming the latino SEVENTEEN year old soccer player who killed the referee. A little inconsistency, maybe? Racism against the caucasians, maybe?

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 8, 2013 7:01 a.m.

    If evidence really existed that he was involved in drugs, why weren't appropriate authorities notified? This is really besides the point however as no one elected this punk to be anyone's judge, jury or executioner.

    On an other note, some people complain about affirmative action. Yet too often it is these very people who make it a continued necessity. Here in this form for example we have commenters in this form anxious to believe on no evidence that this man is a drug dealer just because of his race.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    May 8, 2013 6:20 a.m.

    I am as vocal about illegal aliens as anyone, but your comment is way out of line.
    Such actions would be nothing more than anarchy.
    Shooting a sleeping man is not defending your country.
    I understand that this tension is a creation of our government. They have allowed illegal aliens to come here uncontested and remain with impunity. They even apologize for them rather than deport them. They have made enforcement almost impossible.
    The answer is to call for enforcement of the law rather than amnesty. This is not the way to fix the problem.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    May 7, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    Married with three children, he comes here to work and live with another woman. Is that the separating families that the pro-illegal folks talk about?