First Idaho pit bull from dogfighting ring adopted

Many of the 63 seized animals learning 'how to be a dog'

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  • Volcanoskunkgirl St George, UT
    Jan. 30, 2015 9:41 a.m.

    @The Debbie Bell

    These animals are extremely territorial, and many dogs get Canine Distemper. There is no research out there that has proven yet that Pit Bulls are more likely to bit humans more often than any other dog. Farmers ranch, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, has kept accurate records since 1980. During a 7 year period from 1980 through 1987, this is what was recorded: total bites: 1,593 of those bites Pit Bulls accounted for only 30 bites or 1.89% of the total number of bites. You are more likely to get bitten by a Labrador or a Cocker Spaniel than you are by a Pit Bull. Most pit bulls are rescued from fighting rings, guess what they do? They fight!

  • The Debbie Bell Philadelphia, PA
    May 8, 2013 12:01 a.m.

    To "Debbie Bell":
    Interesting name. Is this the first time you posted on a pit bull article?

    Check out youtube's "Report and 911 call released about deadly pit bull attack". If these dogs had show their intent to kill a toddler, don't you think the owner would have tried to avoid their attack? The owner reported that she had babysat this child and others 20 times without any aggression from her two spay.neutered pits.

    Do you think the parents who entrusted their children in their care saw aggression from the dogs when they left their children in her care?

    The owner was concerned that the suddenly mauling pits would harm the first responders, but the first pit to meet a police officer simply sniffed the officer and walked back to the house. In typical pit bull fighting dog behavior, NOT showing aggression, moments after essentially killing a child.

    youtube also shows a sweet (bloody but sweet) pit moments after nearly killing a 5 year old child. "father saves son, 5, from dog attack. Become pit bull aware, attacking is what good pits do!

  • MerrittClifton Greenbank, WA
    May 7, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    Rehabilitating fighting dogs is a very high input, low return proposition. Rehabilitating & rehoming the best prospects among the Michael Vick dogs, who were puppies and had never been fought, cost about $18,000 apiece -- approximately the cost of rehabilitating and rehoming three dozen dogs of normal profile. The underlying problem is the extreme reactivity of fighting breeds, specifically pit bulls and their close variants, which is not at all the same thing as classic "aggression" or predatory behavior, & often results in fatal or disfiguring injuries from dogs who had never previously seemed to be dangerous.
    The illusion that hardwired reactivity can be trained out of fighting breeds, especially pit bulls, is why we had six fatalities involving shelter dogs in 2012, and have had 11 since 2010, after having had only two from 1982 to 1999, and only three from 2000 through 2009.

  • The Debbie Bell Philadelphia, PA
    May 7, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    How do you temperament test a dog specifically designed to not show intent, to not give warning before attacking? It's not possible.

    Normal dogs want to avoid a conflict, so they usually give warning. They bark, growl, rush and retreat, hoping the intruder or enemy will leave. Normal non-bully dogs have a high degree of self preservation. Kick an attacking border collie, she'll yelp and run home. If they do bite, they immediately release, so the other can leave (and live). If a squabble happens, it is over when one submits, often without severe injury.

    These normal dog behaviors were not good fighting behaviors, so pits were changed using selective breeding.

    Become pit bull aware. Read any book written about pits before the 1980s, before the pit mongering began. Good pit bulls attack, that's what they were designed to do. Pits remain the best at fighting. That's why all USA dog fighters (the kill or die trying style of fighting) choose only pits.

  • Debbie Bell Provo, UT
    May 7, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Dogs like these, spay/neutered and screened for temperament, are virtually never subsequently involved in attacks on people. And media accounts of 'pit bull with no history of violence attacks' are riddled with self serving statements from irresponsible owners who knew they had aggressive dogs, and neighbors who saw dangerous dog situations and didn't report them, who are covering their rear ends by claiming not to have known; that's of course in addition to media accounts of 'pit bull' attacks by dogs which are very far from being pure American Pit Bull Terriers, sometimes totally unrelated.

    And PGViking your last statement is completely ridiculous. You may not realize that you are swept up in a hysteria, those subject to them usually don't, but that statement shows you are.

    Congratulations to Kyle, who per the article is already an experienced pit bull owner and would appear to actually know something about these dogs, unlike you PGV.

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 7, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Kyle, one request: Do not have children for as long as that dog is in your home. The fact is that pit bulls kill. Not all, but enough to make the risk too great to accept. Just check today's headlines for evidence: "Pit Bull with no History of Violence Kills Toddler." You will never, ever read a similar headline about a pet turtle or gerbil or lizard. You have adopted a weapon.