Brad Rock: Now onus on Jason Collins to prove his ability

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2013 2:13 p.m.


    he'll soon be a has-been like his brother, and it has nothing to do with his orientation, but with being 34 years old and having no "game" left.

    No, I take that back, he cannot be a has been because he never was.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    May 2, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    The fact is he also did this at the end of his career knowing likely there will be no aftermath as he is likely at the end of the line in his career...

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    May 2, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    The jaded side of me looks at Collins and says, "Great career move--now he can prolong his NBA career by at least a couple of years, plus he gets great publicity for a post-NBA career as an activist."

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    May 2, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    I would like to see the Jazz sign him as a back up after Jefferson and Milsap depart. He has basketball smarts and would be a good presence on the team with a lot of young players.

  • amazondoc USA, TN
    May 1, 2013 3:46 p.m.

    @New to Utah --

    "He deceived many girlfriends including the woman he was engaged to."

    @gdog3finally --

    "I still think he could have shown more courage doing it earlier before he was engaged and wasting the hearts and invested time of his various girlfriends over the years."

    In all these debates about gay marriage, several of the anti-gay crowd havd blithely opined that gay men should just pick out a woman and get married like everyone else.

    And now you guys are condemning Collins for trying to do just exactly what those folks told him to do.

    Condemned if he does, condemned if he doesn't. He just can't win either way, can he?

    No surprise there, I suppose.

    @U-tah --

    "I don't recall seeing anyone else's sexual preference being the topic for two days."

    Heterosexuality is already widely accepted. Unfortunately, the same can not yet be said of homosexuality.

    Until then, gay kids need successful role models to look up to -- and straight adults need to be reminded that, yes, gay people ARE successful and contributing members of our society. And that's what all this hoopla is about.

    May 1, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    It is pretty sad day in America when the ticker tape on the ESPN channel for two days let's the whole world know we have a gay NBA player. I don't recall seeing anyone else's sexual preference being the topic for two days. We are a sick and pervese nation having to magnifiy ones private life as such. Keep it to yourself and let's report worthy news.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    May 1, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    I had never heard of Jason Collins. He certainly was not anything close to a star. He deceived many girlfriends including the woman he was engaged to. He got his 15 minutes of fame and Sports Illustrated, ESPN and Obama got to proclaim their tolerance. It was actually poor timing because he diminished the NBA playoffs.

  • Josh Cummings Bountiful, UT
    May 1, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    @Bob A. Bohey - "The onus has always been on Collins to prove his ability. Coming out doesn't change that fact."

    Yours is precisely the point that Brad is making in the article. Giving the "why" and "wherefore" behind an argument isn't pointless.

    Nice job, great article.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    May 1, 2013 7:28 a.m.

    News flash to Rock: The onus has always been on Collins to prove his ability. Coming out doesn't change that fact. Your article is pointless.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    May 1, 2013 7:24 a.m.

    I definitely understand the timing of the announcement. Not too many years ago, fear of gay marriage was a contributing factor that put Bush back in for a second term. Now the majority of Americans are in favor. He also said he didn't want to do it while still under contract because there will be a media circus, at least for a time, around him. Any team that signs him now will do so knowingly. It does, however, lead to an unfortunate side effect. If he doesn't get signed, there will always be doubts about whether that was because of his sexuality, or just his play. On the other side, as the author already seems to be intimating, if he does get signed, it will only be for the publicity and because he's gay. People on both sides of the issue are only going to see it as a "purely basketball decision" if it goes their way.

    re: Chris B
    I really hope your kidding. Being straight carries no negative consequences and is assumed. Every mention of your wife and/or girlfriend is "coming out." Being gay brings a long list of possible negative consequences.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    May 1, 2013 7:23 a.m.

    At age 34, he has nothing to prove. He is in the waning days of a basketball career. He can work to get on with a team, but the other issue won't really be an issue if he can play. Had he made his announcement earlier in his careeer, then it would have been more interesting to see how things went for him. In the end,I say to all: Move on, folks. There's really nothing here to see. Don't make a big deal of this.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    May 1, 2013 6:44 a.m.

    Great play by Collins - if he isn't picked up by a team, it will be because he came out as being gay, not because he is past his prime.

  • Sentinel Ogden, UT
    April 30, 2013 9:57 p.m.

    I would like to look at the bigger picture of Jason Collins' coming out. If you have listened to his interview on GMA today, or read his essay in its entirety, you will see his reasons:

    1. He would like to help break stereo types of what "gay" traditionally has meant,
    2. If lives can be saved, if young people struggling with their own gayness can see a professional athlete coming out, receiving the support of those around him, it gives him/her the courage to hang in there, to not commit suicide because they feel so alone,etc.,
    3. As everyone else wants, Jason, too, wants people to know and understand him for who HE is, all of him,
    4. Having gone his life keeping this a secret, this has to be cathartic for Jason to finally be able to share and tell people this about himself. People want to be known. Jason is no exception,
    5. Jason was not looking for publicity in doing this. He held off coming out for years because he did not want to be a distraction to his team, to basketball,
    6. The timing was right- people can accept now a gay athlete.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 30, 2013 9:41 p.m.

    Although I understand the courageous and brave tag given Collins for 'coming out' so to speak, I still think he could have shown more courage doing it earlier before he was engaged and wasting the hearts and invested time of his various girlfriends over the years.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    April 30, 2013 8:16 p.m.

    I never suspected John Amaechi was gay. I did suspect that he didn't put much effort into his game after getting a big contract from the Jazz. As far as Jason goes, he's certainly had a better work ethic than Amaechi. He was a solid defensive player at one time - but that's about it.

    My first thought on hearing his comments was that he knew his NBA career was over and decided to use his last year to "come out" so something good could come out of it. I certainly wish him well and I appreciate it was still difficult to do.

    April 30, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    He hasn't proven his worth yet so, I doubt much will change with his "gay" declaration. I suspect this publicity is about all of the attention he will get from his declaration. His career is over.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 30, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    "I've never "come out" as a heterosexual."

    So you're single? Never had a girlfriend? Never been on a date? Actions taken by heterosexuals like myself broadcast our heterosexuality. The reason it's not a big deal is because it's not controversial and everybody just assumes it anyway so when it's established it doesn't make a difference from what they already thought.

    "If he wants to be gay, fine, be gay. Go get a boyfriend."

    Do you really think he could just go get a boyfriend and not have anybody notice or care? That's just obvious straight privilege on your part. Fact is there is a sizable percentage of the population who would condemn him getting a boyfriend and if he didn't out himself as gay then someone else would have outted him.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 30, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    If he doesn't land with a team, no doubt the gay community will claim his decision to be gay as the reason. If he does land with a team, I can already see the nauseating special attention that will be given to him.

    I can't think of a single heterosexual NBA player who ever decided he need to tell us he was straight.

    I've never "come out" as a heterosexual. I've never told my friends, never told my coworkers, never told my neighbors, never told our commnity.

    If he wants to be gay, fine, be gay. Go get a boyfriend. But why does he need to tell me? Stop looking for special recognition for having told me your sexual preferences.

    I never told you mine.

  • Natester Cedar Hills, UT
    April 30, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    Rock - you hit the nail on the head for this issue. I was happy to read your compare / contrast with Jackie Robinson. Your point of view mirrors what the team President of the Brooklyn Dodgers said to Robinson - "We just want to win. Your job is to run those bases and score." I, for one, hope Collins can get back on a team next year and continue his career. I'm sure that's what he wants. His sexual orientation shouldn't matter one bit about how he's treated - as you said, it's about the stat sheet.

    Great article, Rock!