Fixing 'bottleneck courses' may help make college more affordable

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  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 30, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Winglish - I was being sarcastic about lonster being in education.. But yes I do agree with you there are many things that higher education could do to make it easier for students to become graduates without going completely broke first, and yet retain the value of the degree.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    April 30, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Pretty presumptive about Lonster, Brahmabull, as I work in the education field and I actually agree with your point of view. The college experience is expensive and those expenses have long lasting effects on buying power. It should be made as easy as possible to transfer credits. I was going to be denied a full two years' worth of credits when I wanted to transfer from Utah State to the University of Utah. That's ludicrous! Utah Valley transferred the whole kit and caboodle for me and I became a Wolverine. It quickly became my opinion that state universities should be required to accept credits from one another. Algebra is algebra.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 30, 2013 8:41 a.m.


    You must be in the education field. People shouldn't have to pay money to be exposed to many different and wonderful things. That experience happens in life. A degree is meant to learn a certain skill or trade, not the have great experiences. Most go to college to earn a degree to be able to make money and move on with their lives.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 30, 2013 8:23 a.m.


    I couldn't have said it better myself. If college was more condensed classes relating to the degree then we would have better graduates anyways. Instead of 4 years of college how about 2 years bachelor degree without all of the pointless classes (humanities, P.E., etc.) that don't pertain to your degree? I have heard the well rounded arguement, and it doesn't fly. If a student wants a chance at a real job in the real world then they have to take care of being well rounded on their own.

  • statman Lehi, UT
    April 29, 2013 6:43 p.m.

    SLCC THRIVES on bottle neck courses. Want to get into nursing school or pharmacy school? You'll have to take a series of courses that everyone else who wants to go to nursing school or pharmacy school also have to take, and the only way to get into them is to have been a student long enough to get your name moved up on the list. This method ensures that people.e just don't take the required courses, but spend a two or three extra semesters hanging around to get those classes. Hire extra instructors for the high demand for those courses? Certainly not! The students wouldn't hang out and pay extra tuition for those two or three semesters...

    Community colleges are supposed to be an affordable alternative to four year schools. But SLCC is ignoring this reason for its existence. Instead they're ensuring higher enrollment and longer time than necessary for students wanting to study in competitive majors at the UofU, USU or Weber State...

  • DHan Syracuse, UT
    April 29, 2013 4:47 p.m.

    The point of college is to get a liberal arts education. Or at least it used to be.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    April 29, 2013 4:28 p.m.

    I'll tell you why college is expensive, since I am still in it.

    My major is nursing. When I started college, I had to take a PE course, music class, diversity course, and many other REQUIRED classes in order to graduate. Tell me, what do these classes have to do with my major? Nothing! I spent thousands of additional dollars taking classes that have nothing to do with my career choice, nor will they aid me in becoming a better provider of my patients.

    Once a person enters college, let him/her take the required classes for the chosen occupational path and let that be it. The point of college is to prepare you for your career, not to waste time in meaningless classrooms. Let us get our education and let us begin our lives.

  • kcmannn Salt Lake City, UT
    April 29, 2013 3:08 p.m.

    Just a couple weeks ago we heard a report that college administrations are burgeoning. Maybe instead of hiring more vice-presidents and deans they could hire some actual TEACHERS. This is especially a problem in Utah where taxpayer help is fading rapidly. Tuition goes up, students pay more and yet no new teachers appear. Go figure.

  • washcomom Beaverton, OR
    April 29, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    This certainly needs to be addressed. My son is staying for Spring and Summer at the Y because he couldn't get into some of the other courses. They were already full within the first 2 hours of enrollment.