Winglish - I was being sarcastic about lonster being in education.. But yes I do
agree with you there are many things that higher education could do to make it
easier for students to become graduates without going completely broke first,
and yet retain the value of the degree.
Pretty presumptive about Lonster, Brahmabull, as I work in the education field
and I actually agree with your point of view. The college experience is
expensive and those expenses have long lasting effects on buying power. It
should be made as easy as possible to transfer credits. I was going to be
denied a full two years' worth of credits when I wanted to transfer from
Utah State to the University of Utah. That's ludicrous! Utah Valley
transferred the whole kit and caboodle for me and I became a Wolverine. It
quickly became my opinion that state universities should be required to accept
credits from one another. Algebra is algebra.
LonsterYou must be in the education field. People shouldn't
have to pay money to be exposed to many different and wonderful things. That
experience happens in life. A degree is meant to learn a certain skill or trade,
not the have great experiences. Most go to college to earn a degree to be able
to make money and move on with their lives.
TOOI couldn't have said it better myself. If college was more
condensed classes relating to the degree then we would have better graduates
anyways. Instead of 4 years of college how about 2 years bachelor degree without
all of the pointless classes (humanities, P.E., etc.) that don't pertain to
your degree? I have heard the well rounded arguement, and it doesn't fly.
If a student wants a chance at a real job in the real world then they have to
take care of being well rounded on their own.
SLCC THRIVES on bottle neck courses. Want to get into nursing school or
pharmacy school? You'll have to take a series of courses that everyone
else who wants to go to nursing school or pharmacy school also have to take, and
the only way to get into them is to have been a student long enough to get your
name moved up on the list. This method ensures that people.e just don't
take the required courses, but spend a two or three extra semesters hanging
around to get those classes. Hire extra instructors for the high demand for
those courses? Certainly not! The students wouldn't hang out and pay
extra tuition for those two or three semesters...Community colleges
are supposed to be an affordable alternative to four year schools. But SLCC is
ignoring this reason for its existence. Instead they're ensuring higher
enrollment and longer time than necessary for students wanting to study in
competitive majors at the UofU, USU or Weber State...
The point of college is to get a liberal arts education. Or at least it used to
I'll tell you why college is expensive, since I am still in it.My major is nursing. When I started college, I had to take a PE course, music
class, diversity course, and many other REQUIRED classes in order to graduate.
Tell me, what do these classes have to do with my major? Nothing! I spent
thousands of additional dollars taking classes that have nothing to do with my
career choice, nor will they aid me in becoming a better provider of my
patients. Once a person enters college, let him/her take the
required classes for the chosen occupational path and let that be it. The point
of college is to prepare you for your career, not to waste time in meaningless
classrooms. Let us get our education and let us begin our lives.
Just a couple weeks ago we heard a report that college administrations are
burgeoning. Maybe instead of hiring more vice-presidents and deans they could
hire some actual TEACHERS. This is especially a problem in Utah where taxpayer
help is fading rapidly. Tuition goes up, students pay more and yet no new
teachers appear. Go figure.
This certainly needs to be addressed. My son is staying for Spring and Summer at
the Y because he couldn't get into some of the other courses. They were
already full within the first 2 hours of enrollment.