Checks written to Bingham High ended up in ex-coach Mark Dubach's 'personal business account'

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  • Proud to be American West Jordan, UT
    April 29, 2013 7:30 p.m.

    Look, I know many of you are trying to excuse the behavior that we have been reading about as of late with coaches and handling funds. Coaches are trained, they know what they are supposed to do with money. They are supposed to run everything through the school. If you think for one second that this coach did not know what he was doing, you are nuts!

    I still recall the bunches of people that were defending the Timpview football coach. He was guilty and so is this one. The fact that coaches do not make very much is irrelevant. These coaches know what they are getting into, and stealing money just because you don't think you are making enough is wrong any way you cut it. It is that simple!

  • common twit Salt Lake City, UT
    April 29, 2013 8:41 a.m.


    You have hit everything spot on. I might not have made it clear but I don't think this coach or any of the other coaches in similar situations are making that extra money. (At Lone Peak where the $$$ are huge, they might be?) But to think these guys should pay even one penny out of their own pockets to help these athletes is ludicrous. Yet, they all do.
    I know most coaches don't get per diem for travel. Yet, bus drivers and administrators do when they go to the same competitions.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 29, 2013 12:11 a.m.

    Somehow when public money comes, those entrusted with it, feel they can use it for a variety of expenses. School administrators spend for attending costly in-services. Politicians receive expense reimbursements for vacations, parties, dinners, etc.

    Before blaming a basketball coach, we need consistent rules for everyone. Public money needs more efficient management.

  • DC Fan Wx, UT
    April 28, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    @ Mytymouse

    I agree, I'm much more offended by the way the kids are treated, the quality (or lact of) coaches we're hiring than one or two individuals who mis-appropriate parents funds. This is a touchy subject but the girls programs are NOT treated equal, they get the Spanish teachers to coach them, the band teachers who never played the game and are now coaches. Give me one example of a boys baseball football or basketball coach who never played the sport, has no assistant coaching expierence and become head coaches, can't happen! I can give several examples in the girl's programs.The administrations give lip service to this and the lack of accountability there is unacceptable along with the handling of the finances. You're right, the principals and AD's are paid very well and need to do the entire job, not just rubber stamp these coaches. accountability across the board... Fire some of them andi it'll wake up the others. Sorry Speak English, I thought the total was $9,500.

  • mytymouse09 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 28, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    There was another basketball coach at Bingham High several years ago, who would demean the players, make crude comments to the boys about the girls at the school (that would be considered sexual harassment now), he would throw chairs in anger, give special privileges to players whose parent provided favors, etc. Parents were hesitant to approach the principal or district with their concerns (even though they too were aware of the issues) because they were afraid their sons would not be allowed to play if they did. I think sport coaches in schools are given too much free rein -- look at how many have been in the news lately due to improprieties. I agree that principals should be more involved in what goes on in the gyms of their schools -- they should make unannounced visits, require accountings, and attend some game practices. After all, principals get paid a pretty hefty salary!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    April 28, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    There are obviously some improprieties and the principal should be as interested as anyone else in finding out what happened to the money. It doesn't cost anything at most credit unions to set up a separate account with more than one signer so that there is some control.

  • Speak English - USA West Jordan, UT
    April 28, 2013 4:29 p.m.

    DC Fan, the only problem with your logic is that this article is based on 4-5 parents that actually came forward with what they have. So the $9,500 figure that is based on only the parents that came forward does not reflect the other bunch that did not.

    I agree with several posters on here, the AD and Principal should be fired. The Principal gets a free pass because he is already retiring, but he knew about this long before now. His career should end on April 29th now that this story has gone public with facts.

  • Davis-county-man Wx, UT
    April 28, 2013 3:35 p.m.

    @ common twit

    I mentioned the comp team analogy and used the word (pay to play) teams that are charging monthly fees, plus all experiences, where their coaches (the club teams) actually make a ton of money, much more than our high school coaches for a lot less time. I commented on that abuse and the DeNews denied my comment. This high school coach, I don't think used tax payers money any more than the club teams, it appears to be outside the UHSAA season but clearly an accounting must be kept and there lies the issue, not theft but the way the money was handled, big difference. This coach, now unemployed, should just start his own basketball club organization and turn it into a legal money making machine.

  • GD Syracuse, UT
    April 28, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    Sports are becoming too professional. The pressure to win is tremendous as you can see from this story. Sad

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    April 28, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    Seems to me, if you're going to go to jail for something, it should be more than 9 grand.

  • DC Fan Wx, UT
    April 28, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    This coach could have spent the $9,500 over a 4 year period on petty cash expenditures, tips, ice cream after games, tape, clip boards, erasable markers. Teachers spend money out of their pockets and never get it back. Lord, to go back 4 years and look at that small amount? Let's look at all administrators and see if they waste any of our tax money on personal or unauthorized expenditures? To pick out one employee and scrutinize such a little amount over such a long period of time? Had it been abusive or blatant it would have come out the first year. None of these portents are claiming their kids didn't get what they were promised; it's about the accounting system he used and now can't explain every dime? I don't live in a glass house and wouldn't want scrutinized to that point over a 4 years period, I'm afraid of a call from the IRS, for book keeping errors, even if I'm innocent.

  • Davis-county-man Wx, UT
    April 28, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    I coach and handle money, not a lot, but in Davis County (at least my school) if I don't turn in enough money to cover what I spent on the program, I eat the difference. My school doesn't go in the hole or take from another account to bail me out. I can tell you and i keep an actuate spreadsheet that I have donated between $300 and $700 each year the past 5 years on my program. The money I and the parents (team mothers) raise and collect isn't for uniforms but for the gear we buy for the players (girls) and they own once the season ends. We handle somewhere between $3,000 and $5,000 a year for meals, banquets, hoodies, warmups, awards, out going seniors gifts, and misc. Folks, the coaches make only a couple of grand a year to coach, do you really thinkthey steal another $2,000 a year?

  • common twit Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    Shame on the parents for trying to buy playing time! Had any of the parents with great player had stood up for what was right, there would not be this mess. The coach's desire to win would overpower any financial stuff.
    I feel bad that sports has gotten to this point. Why don't we play for fun anymore? If you want to see kids playing for fun, go watch 1A basketball. It is not as good but you see boys playing with passion. You see parents and schools happy with their boys no matter what.
    Also, if you really want to see financial misdeeds, investigate the club sports teams. You would be shocked at the amount of money soccer parents pay out. You would be shocked at what AAU coaches are paid.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    April 28, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Is there an AD and a Principal at the school? They should be fired for all this "Dubach-ery".

  • Aggie84 Idaho Falls, ID
    April 28, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    As a former administrator both in a school and district office, the district should also be held responsible for this terrible misuse and inappropriate handling of finances. There should have been safe and responsible policy of financial protocol. Parents should have a had a policy which would have guided them in submitting money to any program. Shame of the District!

  • mountain man Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    I think the principal should resign.

  • Dot Smithfield, UT
    April 28, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    To take the other side of the coin and wonder about what the various school districts central offices responsibilities are (although I think there is something seriously wrong in the above story), I used to raise funds for a student group traveling abroad in the our school district. We were the "sister city" with another city in another country and would send 7th to 9th graders there for three weeks. The monies we earned were deposited into our travel account at the district. But, when it came time to find out how much we had deposited (or spent), we would have to wait two to three weeks for a figure. They had it spread out among 13 accounts! Why? If anyone can tell me why this happens, I would like to know. So the districts are not totally honest in their record keeping as well. Why couldn't it have just stayed in one account? Very, very frustrating and disturbing!

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    There is a obvious solution to this problem. Rather than having a devasted coach, according to his attorney, and angry parents and school officials, why not have the attorney and the coach hold a press conference and show in detail the usage for all the money. Their must be some credit card receipts for the hotels, and other travel expenses. If he and his attorney can show the correct usage, even a close estimate of expenses would probably work, the problem goes away. Coach would get a clean bill of health and he could move onto to other coaching jobs.

  • Mugabe ACWORTH, GA
    April 28, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    This is sad, but we just can't blame the Coaches, some of the responsibility is with the parent's. My youngest son played football, from eight years until college. I didn't realize until he was in college that he only played because he thought I wanted him to, but he didn't like it. It came as a shock to me when one of his teammates were injured during a game.

    After the game, we were at the entrance when they bought the injured player out. My son said: "I wish it was me."

    I was stunned, in utterly disblief at what I was hearing, and when I asked why, he said: "I didn't want to play football, I am only playing because this is what you want."

    And, he was right. When I reflected back on the day I signed him up for "Little league" ball, I had dreams of an NFL Star. A Scholarship to college. I never played sports in school, so I guess i was trying to live my dream through my Son. Parent's, you should evaluate your motives. There are greater things in life than Scholarships and NFL drafts.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    April 28, 2013 8:19 a.m.

    This has gone way beyond the coach's assertions that this is s simple misunderstanding.

    He is the unluckiest most incompetent sloppy coach ever or a calculated embezzler. Either way, would you want him to keep coaching?

  • Dante Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    "Bingham High Principal Tom Hicks said he has no way of reviewing those transactions because they occurred in an account over which he has no jurisdiction."

    Oh, please, Principal Hicks. "Jurisdiction" has nothing to do with it. Hicks is not an AUTHORIZED holder of the bank account, but he does have AUTHORITY over the basketball program and its coach, a school employee. Hicks need merely ask the coach to show him the bank statements with all deposits and outgoing checks and withdrawals pertaining to the basketball program. If the coach refuses to cooperate, THAT'S the reason Hicks has "no way of reviewing the transactions." Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Courts have jurisdiction; the applicable court has jurisdiction to subpoena the bank to produce the records.

  • sassyandi Fort Collins, Colorado
    April 28, 2013 5:53 a.m.

    When you send you kids to school you often worry that they will have to deal with bullies, liars and thieves. It's very sad when the very adults that we entrust our kids to as their leaders end up being the bullies, liars and thieves. This is inexcusable! Shame on this man and also anyone else who suspected but still ignored parents who came forth with valid concerns. It really is an ugly thing when a parent cannot have any say in a matter or receive an explanation without fear of retribution and reprisals against their kids. A pathetic abuse of power.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    April 27, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    This is getting really interesting. How can a coach claim he takes care of the finances in a separate account but can't give any specifics as to where the money was spent? I don't happen to believe coaches are that sloppy with money over which they have conrotl. i think they know exactly wheere the funds went and it wasn't to Disneyland or Knott's Verry Farm, even though that's obstensibly the the reason for which it was paid.

    And where is Mr. Hicks oversight in this whole mess? I believe "over-sight" is the operative word, too.