Hey Ziggy, please don't get Jimmered

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  • ajweston Murray, UT
    April 30, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    We're coming up on year 5 since Utah won the Sugar Bowl. People don't remember who played in Non Championship games 5 and 9 years ago aside from the fans of the team. In the last 2 years the average college fan across the country knows BYU as the school that produced Jimmer and Ziggy becuase ESPN made darn sure they got the coverage. We're all kidding ourselves if we think the nation is really following either of our teams as a whole...Its only when a unique story is presented that either the U or the Y garners any national interest.

    Case in point: while reading most of the comments on the Mock Drafts leading up to the weekend I saw countless posts where they mistakenly had Ziggy and Star "playing in a weak conference like the WAC." Just goes to show the casual fan nationally still doesn't see the progress these 2 teams have made. Fans don't remember who won the title in 84 nor do they remember a 2003 fiesta bowl.

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    April 28, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    Ziggy won't get jimmered simply because of his size. If anything, it would be more accurate to say "Don't get Araujo'd" but he won't. He is simply too athletic and smart.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 27, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    You guys are all funny.

  • BYU sports on TV in Missouri Lebanon, MO
    April 27, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    Congrats to Ziggy. What a Great story.

    I have to second the comments about people outside of Utah not talking about the U of U. When hearing I grew up in Utah, 100% of the time a sports discussion starts off about BYU and BYU players. People always mention BYU players who have performed well. Never has anyone assumed I went to the U of U, asked me if I was a Ute or mentioned a player from the U of U. who has done well.... It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they did...Utah has had some great players and some very good teams...For the most part, however, in the areas where I have lived, few people know who went to the U of U and fewer have watched the U of U play in any sport even fewer care.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 27, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    RE: Hey Baby

    Are you honestly trying to say that Ziggy is not a class act? You might want to actually read a few of the now hundreds of stories published about him. I agree that Star is a stud and I love that he stayed home with his family. Ziggy got to see his family for the first time in five years because they were flown to NYC. Both players have incredible stories and will likely have great careers in the NFL.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    April 27, 2013 5:05 a.m.

    Mark it down...Ziggy will play limited games in the NFL. He's a "pet rock"...funny concept but no substance...Detroit football is famous for 1st round picks that flop. This will be no exception...wearing 3-D glasses with no lenses to the green room was just the beginning of this clown car event...watch and see...

    Star! What a stud...sitting at home with mom on one side, wife and daughter on the other...humbling hugging them both...

    What a stark difference...

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 27, 2013 1:50 a.m.

    Oh brother. Only in these forums.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 26, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    Please give us daily Ziggy updates to go along with the hourly Jimmer updates.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    April 26, 2013 7:12 p.m.

    It's funny how the arguments about brand recognition for Utah v BYU get started. I'm just being funny when saying this but I took my family to Disneyland recently and saw lots of USC and UCLA gear, as expected. What I didn't expect was all the BYU gear. There was even a few Boise state caps and shirts. I was there for a week and didn't see a single piece of Utah gear. Just saying lol

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    April 26, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    Unfortunately, the Detroit Lions are NFL's equivalent of the Sacramento Kings. Both have lots of talent but no one who understands the meaning of "team sports". I hope Ziggy doesn't get lost in all the hope and hype that swirls around the Lions.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    April 26, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    Urban Meyer is about the bggest reason anyone outside UT recognizes the U of U, and their fortunes are on a strong downtrend unfortunately. Here's hoping basketball has righted itself. They may live to regret having gone to the PAC.

    I have lived in OH, AL and TX for 30 years and never stumbled into a sports discussion that included mention of the U of U, except when Urban Meyer left for Florida. Otherwise, it's a dead topic. Mention BYU and invariably someone will bring up the string of Wilson, McMahon, Young, Detmer or maybe Danny Ainge.

    Lots of good athletes coming out of Utah, wish them all well in success at the next level.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 26, 2013 2:30 p.m.

    Now that Detroit got Ziggied, maybe they'll be Krugered.

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    April 26, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    When chirs b mentioned a guard from the u having a stellar season, I thought he was thinking of Marshall Henderson who dumped the u and landed on his feet at Ole Miss in the SEC.

    As for his assertion that when football fans across the country talk about u football they recall "2 recent undefeated seasons, 2 recent BCS bowls, 2 recent BCS bowl wins, 2 top recent top 5 finishes"...well, I haven't found any in NC. But, many of them do know about Marshall Henderson.

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    April 26, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    Re: NoCal

    Interesting. I have lived all over the country in the recent years and I find the opposite. Naturally, inside the Wards the sports talk is most always BYU. Outside the Wards, most people don't know where BYU is and when Utah (the state) is connected with the school, many confuse it with the U of U. Outside your cocoon the national band, recognition,meta is greatly over rated.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 26, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    Chris B.
    First, Andre Miller was never in the PAC12. Second, when you "ask any college football fan in the country what they know about the University of Utah..." the more likely response is mid-major that played in a BCS game (most won't remember the undefeated seasons or the individual accomplishments). Utah was on a decidedly upward trajectory for the first decade of the 2000s and I think most people do recognize them now as a national program, but the name recognition still doesn't compare with BYU.

    As for the article, I love that it starts talking about KVN and his season. Truth is that he exceeded expectations and was decidedly the best player on the cougars team this season. He and Hoffman will be joining Ziggy in the NFL soon enough. I just googled "BYU NFL prospects" and found an article from last march called "BYU Football: The Program's 7 Best NFL Prospects." Ziggy was not on the list.

    It's nice to see BYU starting to get players in the NFL once again. Hopefully Braden, Braden, and Brandon all have their names called today or tomorrow.

  • Frankness TALLAHASSEE, FL
    April 26, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Not really liking how the writer outs Jimmer in this. Not a good strategy. Not sure Jimmer would appreciate it either. What's that line, if you cant say something decent dont say it at all...

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    April 26, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Chris B
    This is not an article about the U or basketball!
    Both Ziggy and Star are to be congratulated but please keep to the topic of the article!!!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2013 10:55 a.m.


    HaHaHaha. So funny. You're living in 1984 still. Its no 2013. You ask any college football fan in the country what they know about the University of Utah and they will say 2 recent undefeated seasons, 2 recent BCS bowls, 2 recent BCS bowl wins, 2 top recent top 5 finishes.

    Byu is well known yes. WEll known as being a school of Mormons.

    But not so much for play ON THE FIELD.


  • NorCalCougarAlum Elk Grove, CA
    April 26, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    Chris B, Unfortunately, regardless of the University of Utah's conference status, when people throughout the country think college sports in the State of Utah, they think BYU (not the U of U). The University of Utah is hardly ever on anyone's radar outside of Utah. This is coming from someone raised on the East Coast and has lived on the West Coast for many years. The University of Utah is a very good, but just a state regional university. BYU is a great private university known throughout the nation and the world.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2013 10:30 a.m.


    Lillard is having an ouststanding season.

    Rookier of the year, dominating opponents as a rookie. I wish him nothing but the best.

    Lillard Jimmered the rookie of the year award.

    And the bench is Jimmering the Jimmer


    Enjoy Europe Jimmer!

  • canadiancougar624 Raymond, 00
    April 26, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    @Chris B

    Andre Miller? Oh my bad, when I first read that I thought you were going to say Damian Lillard and give him credit for his OUTSTANDING season.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 26, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    A point guard from our state is indeed having a stellar season. He's scored a game winner in the playoffs and is a classy man off the court.

    Andre Miller - University of Utah Pac 12 Utes