"Veritas AequitasFruit Heights, UTZiggy, picked
higher than Manti. Who would have thought. Who is the star? Good luck to
all..."Kyle Van Noy will be picked higher than Manti as well
barring a catastrophic injury. But, no one can take the entertainment value
that family (Te'o) provides and will probably continue to provide away.
What jokers they are
Mussing- please point out where I said or pounded my chest. We all know that the
chest pounding came from a select few guys. The Y side has a few of these chest
pounders too. The rest of us live in the real world and don't feel the
constant need to "one up" the other. Maybe it's maturity, I'm
not sure what you call it.I thought it was awesome that a kid from
Utah was the #1 pick, but you never saw my name attached to a post pounding my
chest about it. As I stated earlier, different teams, different needs. I think
both players will have an immediate impact on their respective teams. No hypocrisy here.
joseywales"Each team has unique needs, therefore they will take
the player they feel helps them most. What number you are in the draft is only
some sort of "win" ..."So all of the chest pounding
we've seen for YEARS from Utah fans bragging about Alex Smith being the #1
overall draft pick was really nothing but a bunch of hypocritical hooey?Thanks for clarifying that.
Striker/duckhunter- you guys really don't understand football do you? While
most people on here get it, you don't. Each team has unique needs,
therefore they will take the player they feel helps them most. What number you
are in the draft is only some sort of "win" to you guys because your guy
was a few numbers ahead. Maybe let's wait a few years and see where they
end up, hopefully they are both kicking butt with their respective teams. Simply
being drafted high guarantees nothing, you guys should know that, you've
been spouting about how horrible Alex is/was, and he was #1. Also,
you guys know this but won't admit it. Star's stock fell when he was
unable to perform at the combine for medical reasons. Whether he would have been
the top pick like many college football reporters thought in the early season,
we'll never know, but like I said previously, nothing wrong with being a
first rounder whatever the number.
Congrats Ziggy and Star. My only regret is that Star never got to play for BYU
despite initially going there. Those of you trying to make this about the BYU
Utah rivalry, give it a rest...this is about two good guys that have huge
potential. I wish them both best of luck.
nosyBad form insinuating anyone took any pleasure in Star's
health problems of recent.Several of you Ute "fans" take the
cake for the stuff is dished out on these boards. You could have
simply said congrats and moved on and most of us would have appreciated it but
you didn't.Your sincerity is lacking.
#5, a gentleman and a scholar. Congrats Ziggy.
@ DuckIf Chris B and Navel were wondering if they've gotten in
your head- they just got their answer. LOL!Some people are happy for
these kids while others seem to take pleasure in college kids getting diagnosed
with heart conditions I guess, to each his own.Congrats to both
these kids on their success. Ziggy especially has an amazing story, and every
fan I've talked to from the U seems to be very happy for him. Best of luck
to both, and way to represent the state!
Snack PAC - Yes, in retrospect it may have been better for Alex to go to a team
that actually had a functioning offensive line and a stable coaching situation -
even if that meant him not going #1 in the draft. He made the best of his tough
situation and then was beat out by the tattooed gazelle from Nevada. He's
in a decent situation now in Kansas City and hopefully he makes the most of it.
It would be interesting to get Alex's honest opinion on that one -- I bet
he would still say going #1 is better because he made more money. I think
basketball is a bit different in that regard because there isn't as much
disparity between the pay of picks and where they are picked - the big money is
made after the rookie contract. High NFL draft picks can make a boatload in
signing bonuses in contract #1.
@bradleycUTE FAN - We went for years when it was the opposite.
I don't care one way or the other.Nuff said@SportsFanUtes FanNumber people who care (except for the
beside themselves with jealousy kids on the hill):ZERO!Once again, a la Jimmer, the limelight shines brightly on BYU, and our friends
on the hill are left with nothing but whiny spin. @Hemlock@utes fan,This story is about Ansah and his draft status. Take a
deep breath and refocus. Unfortunately, "Nuff said" seldom comes
true.-----------------------I wasn't starting the
smack talk. I was just responding to the smack talk started by BYU fan
"poyman" who posting the following:@poymanRound 1:#5 Detroit Lions DE E. Ansah BYU#14 Carolina Panthers DT S.
Lotulelei UtahNuff Said. Fact: Yes Ziggy went ahead of
Star in the draft. Fact: Yes I am thrilled for both. Fact: Utah has twice as many players as BYU in the NFL draft. Fact: I was responding to the first smack posted by BYU fan "poyman"
by just stating a FACT that indeed Utah has more than twice as many NFL players
as BYU.Don't let the FACTS bother you.
@uu32Yes this hurts utah "fans". chris b is in agony, naval
vet is nowhere to be seen, howie has retreated into his shell, and myriad other
utah "fans" are complete no shows.This is because their
entire self worth, their self confidence, their value as a person, is tied up in
the fantasy that utah is superior to BYU in all things and all ways. When
something like this occurs it is a gut punch to them, especially when they had
been saying star would be the #1 overall pick for so many months leading into
last season and yet he dropped to the middle of the 1st round, and then to add
insult to injury a BYU players went so far ahead of him, top 5 actually.Now for me, I don't care, I hope they both do well, but it is agony
for utah "fans", sheer agony. And that is funny to me. We can all be
assured that if the opposite had occured those same ute "fans" would be
on here blabbing about it instead of hiding and agonizing.
Who (or what) is Ziggy Ansah?
UU32"In retrospect, would you rather of had Jimmer go to a good
franchise and a great situation later in the draft where he could have had more
success or still go higher in the draft to the Kings?"Utah fans
didn't have any such reservations when Alex Smith was picked #1 - even
though Alex was the 2nd best player at the position most needed by the team that
Congratulations Ziggy!! A great ending (or should I say beginning) of a great
story!!Star and Ziggy will represent our state well for years to
come. Proud of you both!!
@Sportsfan"Once again, a la Jimmer, the limelight shines brightly on
BYU, and our friends on the hill are left with nothing but whiny spin."*shrugs* I have no reason to be upset that teams didn't have a high
need for the position Star plays, especially when Floyd (the guy ranked first at
the position on Kiper's board) fell all the way to 23. Likewise, Ansah was
ranked #2 at his position and was taken 2nd among that position because teams
had a higher need for it so earlier teams drafted them. They're both great
athletes and it's great that both of them will have the opportunity to
shine at the next level.
@ the Striker rant.... "Are you kidding me? I don't know how many Ute
fans either told me personally or that I read stated he'd be #1. Just plain
idiocy.... Just glad I don't have to listen to your fans spouting all that
ridiculousness anymore."WOW dude you need some therapy. That
anger is getting the best of you. Take a deep breath and lay down for a few
@54-10 I always try to be positive for the team I support and not say
anything negative about other teams. I try and look for something to appreciate
about others rather than doing the "my pop can beat up your pop" thing.
I have waited a long time to appreciate your view point and finally we have
something to agree on. You can't be all that bad a guy if you love the
"Pack." Congratulations to Ziggy and may the Packers rule.
Congrats to Ziggy and good luck (except against the Packers).
I came on here to congratulate both Star and Ziggy, but man, BYU fans make it so
hard for me to congratulate them at anything. Come off your pedestal for just a
minute and simply congratulate these young men for their accomplishment. Both of these guys have such cool stories... Ziggy coming from Africa to
play b-ball, and Star out of competitive football and working for a moving
company. I can't remember ever hearing of 2 guys coming from no where so
fast and rising to the top. AWESOME!
Duckhunter,You attempt to morph every discussion into a Utah vs. BYU
debate. If I read an article about the Dalai Lama in the DesNews I
wouldn't be surprised to see you posting your opinion that the Dalai
prefers BYU over Utah. Give it a rest. Why can't you just be happy for
both Ziggy and Star without trying to stir the pot. Must be a sad way to spend
your days.As for this Ute, good luck to both players... hope to see
them both make a pro bowl one day.
Congratulations to Ziggy!
Duckhunter - Why would Utah fans be upset? The Panthers is a great situation for
Star to join. He will be an instant starter bookended by two great young
Defensive Ends, a 4-3 scheme, a very good young linebacker behind him and a team
that already has great connections with the Utah program (Smith / Gross) and a
polynesian / LDS connection there with the kid from Stanford. I see nothing but
good from this. Doesn't hurt at all. Star will be great there. In retrospect, would you rather of had Jimmer go to a good franchise and a
great situation later in the draft where he could have had more success or still
go higher in the draft to the Kings? Star landed in a great spot.
But you might be right the Utah "fans" may be unhappy, but real Utah
fans (no quotation marks) are very happy about where Star is headed.
@utes fan,This story is about Ansah and his draft status. Take a
deep breath and refocus. Unfortunately, "Nuff said" seldom comes true.
Detroit coaches knew what they were getting in Ziggy. I think they (and Ziggy)
will come out looking good.
I've been an unfortunate fan of the Lions since Scott Mitchell and Barry
Sanders played there. I can say this, I was totally bummed that Ziggy went to
this train wreck of an organization. The Ford family knows they will make money
regardless of the product they put on the field and they make terrible
decisions. Management has been so poor there and player development has been
non-existent. Ziggy deserves and needs a better organization than Detroit. Just
look at how the Detroit "fans" (thanks for that one Duckhunter) are
reacting the pick. Detroit is the worst situation for Ziggy.
Utes FanNumber people who care (except for the beside themselves
with jealousy kids on the hill):ZERO!Once again, a la
Jimmer, the limelight shines brightly on BYU, and our friends on the hill are
left with nothing but whiny spin.
UTE FAN - We went for years when it was the opposite. I don't
care one way or the other.Congrats to Ziggy and Star. They will both
represent their respective schools and their common church well.Nuff
THis just proofs Bronco is a great recruiter and coach, to discover this talent
so long ago.
Congratulations to both Ziggy and Star! Both great kids and outstanding
ambassadors of their respective institutions! May they both shine in the NFL
and have very long careers. For Ziggy, the ideal scenario for him is
that he would thrive and be wildly successful in the NFL and then someone writes
a book about his amazing story and make it into a movie. That would truly be
something, wouldn't it?Go Ziggy! Go Star! May fame and
it's attached millions never corrupt you! And may more missionaries find
more Ziggys and bring them to BYU. I'm loving it!
as the old saying goes - you can't teach speed and Ziggy has it - lots of
it!! Speed is why he was drafted #5 by the Lions. It is unheard of to have a guy
his size with his speed. Many compare him to former great Bruce Smith. Ziggy can
be a good - even great - NFL player if he stays healthy and continues to
progress. He will have to get a bit bigger and stronger and he will have to be a
quick learner but all those are within his grasp. He is smart - he is coach able
- he is humble and most of all he is a great overall athlete.
Congratulations, Ziggy! I hope your meteoric progress in football continues.
Striker is correct, why pretend otherwise? utah "fans" wrong again and
this one undoubtedly hurt.
Here let me try this again...Congrats to Ziggy! Can you imagine the
dreams that young boys and girls now have back where Ziggy came from in Africa?
What a story, what an inspiration to them and to everyone in the world.Congrats to Bronco, BYU football, BYU, etc.And congrats to Star as
well, another 'first rounder'.Hope that doesn't
ruffle some feathers and meets the politically correct politeness standard.
Ziggy you are not in Kansas any more.
Into the football abyss Ziggy goes. Goodbye Ziggy, it was fun while it lasted.
Congrats to Ziggy! Such a cool story.
I am thrilled that both Ziggy and Star went high in the draft. We'll have
to see how well they do. Now I might actually have a reason to watch the Lions
on Thanksgiving Day!Now, to settle something:--------------------@poymanRound 1:#5 Detroit Lions DE
E. Ansah BYU#14 Carolina Panthers DT S. Lotulelei UtahNuff Said. --------------------Current players in the
NFL:BYU 8 (now 9 with Ziggy).Utah 22 (now 23 with Star).Nuff said
As a BYU fan, I am absolutely thrilled for Ziggy! I am also very excited for
Star, and hope that his heart condition has been corrected so that both players
can have long, successful careers. I will be rooting for both of them to
succeed. I hope we all can avoid the smack talk about draft order and just enjoy
the fact that both schools had picks in the top 15 of the 1st round.
Incredible!I have never cheered for the Lions (because of Suh), but
I like Ziggy a whole lot more than I dislike Suh so will now cheer for the Lions
whenever they aren't playing the 49ers. :)
I have been a Lions for for 30years plus. I am thrilled!
Congrats to both Ziggy and Star! I believe both players are going to make an
impact for their respective teams.
2013 NFL Lottery...Round 1:#5 Detroit Lions DE E.
Ansah BYU#14 Carolina Panthers DT S. Lotulelei UtahNuff Said.
" It wasn't us Ute fans saying that Star was a potential #1, it was the
national media. "Are you kidding me? I don't know how many
Ute fans either told me personally or that I read stated he'd be #1. Just
plain idiocy. The guy was good, but his senior season was not as stellar, and
would no way have been #1. People surely fell prey to the media, but most fans
do. I was surprised he went so low, but thrilled to see Ziggy go so high. Just
glad I don't have to listen to your fans spouting all that ridiculousness
anymore. Ziggy going very high will help that too.
Striker- It wasn't us Ute fans saying that Star was a potential #1, it was
the national media. When ESPN, or whoever starts saying something, it then
becomes easy for others to pick up on it and start saying it as well. Still, not
participating in the combine for medical reasons, and being a 1st round pick is
still quite the accomplishment. Honestly, in the first few rounds some players
can go a little higher or lower because teams have different needs. Notice that
there were a lot of linemen taken, and few skill positions in the first round
this year. Congrats to both Ziggy and Star!
Congrats to Ziggy! He is a beast! Interestingly, he will be wearing former Utah
standout and Detroit Lion Luther Elliss's former number, No. 94, for the
Ziggy, picked higher than Manti. Who would have thought. Who is the star? Good
luck to all...
RE: StrikerNo need to talk smack here... Star was a stud and will
make an immediate impact in the league. He slid a little--probably due to the
heart condition--but he was still a top pick and will have an amazing career.
Congrats to both Star and Ziggy.
So much for some other team of some other school predicting their player would
be #1 overall! Hilarious.To be drafted from the lips of one of the
all-time greats makes this story even better. He is living the football
player's dream. I can't get over what a neat moment this is for him
and for BYU.
Wish Ziggy would have gone to browns. Awesome to have such a great NFL player
Congrats to Ziggy!
Way to go Ziggy! Hey, I thought Star was supposed to be high on the list too.
Wow, suddenly I'm a Detroit fan, best wishes Ziggy!
Proud to see Ziggy go so high. Wish he would have gone to Cleveland.
Don't really want him learning from Suh. Dirty player
I like the comment: Ziggy is the Ansah!!!" Cougar becomes a Lion!!! Biggest problem is I am going to miss watching him progress at the Y.More missionaries to Ghana!!!I wish Ziggy all the best and Hope he can
bless his home land with his success here.
You go ZIggy! He's going to be awesome in the NFL. Can't wait to watch
Congrats Ziggy! Hope you have an awesome and great career in the NFL!
Congrats Ziggy, from unknown to tied for the highest draft pick ever from BYU in
a few short months. Quite the story.