Utah Jazz: Team reflects on roller-coaster season that ended early

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  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    May 1, 2013 11:13 p.m.

    Corby and Lowe coming back...Same ol thing..Do not Defend 3s. Say in Timeouts "Cmon Guys". Soft players who are not tough to win key road games. Pound it into AL and watch...Continue giving Old Vets the Playing time...Think you can win every game by a shootout. A philosophy that has not changed since Derek Fisher left this organization. Fun and Competitive. No Changes. Battle for #8 make it great If not WHO CARES..That is because the fans accept it saying NO BIG DEAL THE PLAYERS AND BEAR so likable...Despite posts here I will say what I have..The Majority in the state do not take it seriously. As a result Greg, does not take you Seriously either...

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 30, 2013 5:24 a.m.

    My point was they shoot all about the same. Defensively Marvin helped on some very good players throughout the season. I thought his outside shot looked like a brick! There are many small things wrong with the makeup of this team.

    Corbin's a rookie.
    No point guard.
    Jefferson cannot/will not play defense.
    Millsap is undersized.
    Mo. is Boozer injury prone and isn't that good.
    Foye is not a starter.
    Marvin, cannot/will not fit into this antique offense.
    Hayward, still young makes stupid mistakes
    Burks, see Hayward
    Evans, What were they thinking
    Kanter, Promising very talented big man that plays great defense.
    Favors, a five not a four.
    Carroll, a keeper

    Changing a coach this early will only extend the process. If he continues to show lack of imagination and throw this antique offense at every team in the league that defended it years ago, then not just Corbin, but the whole bunch needs to go. Brahmabull signing Al would be the biggest mistake of all.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 29, 2013 5:28 p.m.

    Millcrap checked out when he became a starter. He is a decent role player, not starting material in the NBA. Nothing more, nothing less. Big Al needs to be resigned. I would rather pay to watch a bunch of jerks who know how to play and win then pay to watch some nice guys who win once in a while. I want to see the team win, not be known as the friendliest locker room in the NBA.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 29, 2013 5:01 p.m.


    From the official 2013 Jazz statistics:

    FG %
    Hayward - .435
    Foye - .397
    Mo - .43
    Burks - .42
    Marvin - .423

    So Hayward and Mo are better while Burks is about the same as Marvin. Marvin is only better than Foye, but remember why Foye was brought here - 3 point shooting. Foye shot .41 from distance while Marvin shot only .325

    I would also argue that even if Marvin shot better than Burks, Burks is at least aggressive and makes things happen while Marvin stands around the 3 point line looking for hand outs. Point in fact, Marvin averaged 6 more minutes a game than Burks but only averaged 1.4 free throws compared to 2.0 for Burks.

    And here's the kicker. Most fans wanted to see Carroll on the floor instead of Marvin. Carroll's FG% is better than all those mentioned above at .46.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 29, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    Look at Marvins shooting percentage next to Foye, Mo, Burks, and Hayward.

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    April 26, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    Yes fortydam is very wrong. The Jazz WERE poorly coached. Anyone with two eyes could have seen that this year. All national analysts have been critical of Corbin all year. The only ones supportive of Corbin have been those employed by the Jazz like David Locke and other local media types working for the Miller's radio station. The Jazz gave terrible efforts in many important games both home and away. Getting an effort out of his players should be one of the responsibilities of the coach right? The Jazz played poor defense all year. They had no plan on offense the majority of the time. The rotations had no rhyme or reason to them. And lastly, Corbin was constantly praising his players whether they gave an effort or not. That's poor leadership and coaching. Corbin has demonstrated that he is in over his head and many people including former players, nba analysts, and fans can easily see that.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    April 26, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    re: fortydam

    Uh, Marvin Williams had open shots from the word go. Regardless of who he supposedly had guarding him...they were usually down doubling Jefferson. Williams has never had so many open looks. Stop making excuses for him.

    The dude was a massive bust his first season here. A guy with that amount of athletic talent ought to be able to produce more than what he did in his sleep.

    As far as Millsap is concerned, I thought he was a blue collar type player? Who just got in there and worked to get what he got? How about rebounds? How about effort?

    I can't stand it when people excuse lazy no effort players based on them not getting enough shots. Like that is an excuse to stop making an effort. Last time I checked it was a team sport.

    Lets not forget the team went on quite the winning streak to finish the season...at the same time Millsap was sulking and pouting and not producing.

    Millsap is generally a good hard working role player. The fact he turned into a "I'm entitled to a certain amount of shots or I won't play" speaks volumes.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 26, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    Sorry fortydam, but, in my opinion, you are wrong about giving Corbin more time as head coach for the Jazz. The head coaching position should not be given to someone who requires on the job training.

    Over the course of the season, I watched as Tyrone Corbin played the wrong lineups, mismanaged players' time on the court, and seemed generally befuddled as to what he should do. I do agree that the players deserve some of the criticism, but it's Corbin's responsibility to get them ready to play.

    After a loss, Rick Majerus (the great University of Utah coach) always blamed himself. He took full responsibility for the losses because he understood that he was the one "calling all the shots." Tyrone would do himself a world of good to borrow game films from the Utes and watch how Majerus often beat more talented teams by understanding the Xs and Os of the game of basketball.

    My "dream" would be to have a Majerus type coach handling the reins for the Jazz. Had Rick been the Jazz coach this past season, they would have made the playoffs qualifying as the 6th seed, winning 7 to 10 more games.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 26, 2013 7:17 a.m.

    louisiana jazz man.. Right on. Millsap going from option three to setting screens, and clearing space for Jefferson. Most of the folks blogging here only watch the stat line, points scored. It doesn't matter if most of the divisions best players ended up being guarded by Marvin either, it directly effected his scoring option (maybe 5th on the floor). He and Hayward both were relegated most of the time to setting screens and playing the toughest defense. I don't want to give him a pass either, I thought both Marvin and Hayward hid from the ball at times. Most of this offense was set throwing the ball into Jefferson and clearing out while he got his shot.

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    April 25, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    millsap checked out when they changed the offence after mo came back. thats when al mo gordon and foye got all the shots. millsap was the point guard i guess. and might i add that is when they started on the losing streak. it would be hard in a contract year to go from 12 to 15 shots to 7 and see not only was someone else getting your shots it wasen't working you were losing. he did not look happy happy happy.

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    April 25, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    Please Marvin, don't pick up that player option! Please! Corbin plays you like you are a superstar, but you are the 10th best player on this team. Please, don't come back!

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 25, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    bano, where do you get the "nationally butt of jokes" info from? Blaming Corbin on this bunch of misfits is a joke itself. Corbin won within five games of Jerry Sloans average. He did it without a point guard! Everyone give the guy another chance and quit the whining. This team was a one trick pony that couldn't pass out of the post or play defense.

  • bano SANDY, UT
    April 25, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    Nice guys. Well isn't that special. I don't want to pay $80 to sit in the Lower Bowl and watch a bunch of nice guys. Nice guys are soft and feable on the road. Bring in some jerks who can play and you will get me renewing my season tickets. And please get rid of that nice guy Corbin. Nationally he is the butt of jokes and probably regarded as the most clueless coach in the league.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    April 25, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Millsap "checked out" when he refused the extension.

    It is very likely that Jefferson will get a huge deal considering he will be the biggest offensive free agent out their period.

    Millsap will get some big dollars as well and very likely will never comeback. Millsap played for large portions of time this season like he already had a deal somewhere else.

    New chapter for this organization. With all this youth there will be some serious bumps ahead. I hope they are able to keep Foye and mix in some other veterans who understand the Jazz are moving ahead with they youth movement. In a few years after we get all these guys chemistry humming then perhaps LeBron and the Heat will be fading a bit.

    Timing is everything considering we would have had two championship banners hanging if Stockton and Malone would not have had to go against the best ever in his prime.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    April 25, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    "Moneyball" is the game Jazz decision-makers should be playing now! Small market, less money to spend, go after the "undervalued" players, get a great, (not just a good), point guard, and pay attention to what Gordon Hayward said, the need for more energy and toughness on the road. Utah HS Lone Peak has shown it can be done, lets get a championship mentality on the Utah Jazz team and use our resources to succeed.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 25, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    Marvin Williams - "I was able to play with a great group of guys". I'm sure fans like the idea that the players get along with each other and that has to help team chemistry. However, my ward basketball team is also a "great group of guys" but I can guarantee that you wouldn't want to pay money to see us play. Especially what it costs to attend a Jazz game. I'm of course being sarcastic and know you can't compare the two, but the fact remains that Jazz fans expect the team to make the playoffs and even want to push beyond the 1st round. It's hard to accept what we're getting with this team. I hope for big changes in the off season. I know changing does guarantee we will be better, but standing pat sure won't make us better either. We need to be bold and go a different direction.