ESPN debates talent against questions on Ziggy Ansah, age among them

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  • agb Layton, UT
    April 22, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    Chris B:

    *face palm*

    Is that WAC competition responsible for your #1 overall draft pick getting benched/traded?

  • shorts Payson, UT
    April 22, 2013 7:14 a.m.

    Mesa, AZ

    Here are some facts:

    Young was named the Most Valuable Player of the NFL in 1992 and 1994, and the MVP of Super Bowl XXIX. He is a member of the College Football Hall of Fame and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. At the time of his retirement, he had the highest passer rating among NFL quarterbacks who have thrown at least 1,500 passing attempts (96.8), and is currently ranked third. He is also still ranked highest amongst retired players. Young also won a record six NFL passing titles.

    So you can argue that he is one of the best ever.

  • shorts Payson, UT
    April 22, 2013 7:11 a.m.

    Why would I waste my time looking up something I don't care about. If you wish the answer you look it up.

    If you are saying that super bowl rings defines the better QB then according to you Trent Dilfer one superbowl ring is a better QB then Dan Marino no superbowl rings.

  • eelek62 SANDY, UT
    April 20, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    Chris B.

    "Again, half of his experience was against WAC competition."

    Ziggy was the defensive MVP of the Senior Bowl. Just saying.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Age per se is not the critical issue in professional sports. It's playing time and injuries, not whether he's 23 or 24.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 20, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    The lack of a legitimate, detailed response to my challenge above is precisely the "answer" I expected. Speaks volumes, actually.

    Regarding the poster stating Steve Young is the greatest NFL QB ever? Based upon which criteria, precisely? The byu fans I know personally would be embarrassed to hear one of their own make such a claim. The end-goal for any/all teams/players is winning The Super Bowl. Nothing else is even remotely comparable and is the true measurement of greatness. For all of his individual accomplishments, Dan Marino would trade it all in a heartbeat to be on the following list. Not even your hero Young made it, although he finished 1-up on Marino--

    Wins PlayerTeam

    4Joe Montana San Francisco 49ers
    4Terry Bradshaw Pittsburgh Steelers
    3Troy Aikman Dallas Cowboys
    3Tom Brady New England Patriots
    2Bart Starr Green Bay Packers
    2Bob Griese Miami Dolphins
    2Roger Staubach Dallas Cowboys
    2Jim Plunkett Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
    2John Elway Denver Broncos
    2Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers
    2Eli Manning New York Giants

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2013 11:16 p.m.

    After watching videos that highlighted Ziggy last football season, and reading a quote from Boise State coach Peterson that his team wasn't prepared for Ziggy when he entered the game last year to help the defense prevent a BSU TD with a 1st and goal inside BYU's three yard line, I have come to the conclusion that BYU will be hard pressed to fill his enormous shoes this year.

    April 19, 2013 8:28 p.m.

    Yeah - who would want a mature guy with Ziggy's abilities, at or near his peak physically, in the original packaging without the long history of injuries every experienced football player has sustained by the end of a college career?

    Good grief - how old was Steve Young by the time he really got down to playing some NFL football? I'll bet he was older than Ziggy, and look what he accomplished after he got the starting nod in San Francisco.

    One reason so many NFL players' careers are so short is they're already pretty beat up by the time they get out of college. For crying out loud Ziggy couldn't possibly be older than 25, and he's in mint condition. His age is a complete non-issue.

  • shorts Payson, UT
    April 19, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1
    Mesa, AZ

    Look it up yourself. Please format your response in a neat, organized list, including year, name/position, round/overall-selection, franchise and, if it's not asking too much, how each one's career has played-out.

    Thanks in advance!

  • DoNotShootTheLittle Birds Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2013 10:14 a.m.


    Mark my words, he'll be in the Pro Bowl. Don't put him down just because you're jealous that USU didn't have him.

  • DoNotShootTheLittle Birds Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2013 10:07 a.m.

    DEW Cougars has got it right. Ziggy's gonna be there for 15 years. And no doubt, Steve Young was the best QB in NFL history even if Chris B won't acknowledge it. If Robbie Bosco hadn't hurt his shoulder, he would have been right up there.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 19, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    There is no question he is the hot topic in the NFL draft above everyone else. He is the HOTTEST person to talk about in Utah, and to have the NFL discuss him just as much says a lot about him. He may go in the top 5 when a year ago no one knew who he was is remarkable. He led his team defense to top 3 in the nation.

    He came from nowhere to top 5 prospect in the draft. That is why he is so special. Name me one other person who has that profile. Can't do it? There is no one else. I've seen more articles about him than the guy from TX A&M. People just love talking about Ziggy! Who can blame them? HE IS A STUD!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 19, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    The reason his age is in question is because every other 23-year-old male at BYU has male-pattern baldness. Ziggy has a full head of hair so some confusion has arisen.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    April 19, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    To all that say pro bowl in first year..... Bbahhahahhahhalol. Sure

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 19, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    Two words: Greg. Oden.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    April 19, 2013 12:39 a.m.

    Lotuleilei and Ansah are two very different players. Lotuleilei is a lot like Haloti Ngata. Run stopper whose strength is up the middle. Ansah to me looks to be more like a more athletic Hybrid between the Reggie White/Bruce Smith big D end and Denver's Von Miller.

    I would like to see the crystal ball of those who are saying that both of these guys will have great NFL careers. There's a lot more than raw talent and work ethic that goes into a players success. They have all the potential in the world, and they have worked hard to put themselves in the best possible position to succeed. But just like mutual funds and stocks, past performance is not always indicative of future return. Only time will tell. But for those of us who have watched them for the last couple of years, we will definitely cheering for their success.

    The thing that it most impressive about both of these players is that they both worked hard in the classroom. Lotuleilei skipped the draft and stuck around to get his degree.

    Best of luck on draft day to both of them.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    April 18, 2013 9:00 p.m.

    Hey Crhis B - did you really think Steve Young would have never been in the nfl after his usfl? You really are a u homer. I know Ziggy will play longer than 10 or 15 years to one of those nfl team. Are you still sniffing for ROSE to Pasedina?

    April 18, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    azute how about Austin Collie and Dennis Pitta. Soon to be Ansah and Kyle Van Noy next year.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    April 18, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    I believe that Ansah played against those same WAC level teams that Eric Weddle honed his skills against. It doesn't seem to have hurt his career much, does it? It might also explain why he went to the Senior Bowl with the top graduating players in the country (I believe it also included players from some of those BCS schools) and dominated all of the competition. I think I heard somewhere he got an award or something. Maybe it was just a participation ribbon that they give to all the slow, non-athletic kids.

    Then again, maybe those guys that evaluate NFL level talent before giving them millions of dollars, might just know what they are doing a little more than us average Joes. The double standard from the hill is amazing.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    April 18, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    Why is it that some people can't cheer for one player without ripping down another?

    Star Lotulelei is a good football player. He will probably get drafted in the top 10 and have a good career. That's great for him. If Ziggy is also drafted in the top 10 and has a good career, how does that hurt Star? Since it doesn't, why do some feel the need to criticize?

    And as for AZUTE1: I'm rolling my eyes at your "serious" question that has been asked numerous times by the rest of the BYU haters. Go cheer for your team for a change.

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    April 18, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    Chris B
    Let me see now. Ziggy is inexperienced, so it will take a couple of years for suitors (I assume you mean NFL teams) to decide they don't want him. During those two years, in spite of practicing every day and perhaps playing in a number of NFL games, he will not gain experience, which is your stated reason why he will fail.
    Your argument is illogical. Even if his inexperience shows at first, after two years, he will have two more years of experience. That will not turn away suitors; it will make him even more desirable. You know, there are some players who just seem to have natural talent which allows them to BEGIN playing at a level many others must take years to develop. Ziggy has such enormous physical advantages over many other players that he will have an edge as soon as he drops into the stance and faces another player.
    I suggest you get some tapes of his past games. Its obvious you haven't seen him play or you haven't watched carefully. Watch the moves he makes using talent and instinct, even against "WAC" opponents (like Utah?). Then apologize here.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 18, 2013 5:04 p.m.

    Serious question here--

    How many players has byu had drafted during mendenhall's tenure? Please format your response in a neat, organized list, including year, name/position, round/overall-selection, franchise and, if it's not asking too much, how each one's career has played-out.

    Remember, only those players both recruited by/fully-developed under mendenhall, exclusively....For the life of me, I don't recall any draft picks produced in recent years.

    Anybody? Thanks in advance!

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Chris B,

    You're just a Utah homer. Mark my words, Ziggy will be all pro because he's doing what's right on and off the field.

    April 18, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    The average employment in the NFL is three years! Players like Ziggy who will have an actual degree are smart, you never know how long your career will last. Anyone, even the number 1 pick can get injured enough to end a career.

    That being said, great luck to all players from Utah schools who get picked!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 18, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Despite the jealous little temper tantrum by my little sister, it's clear that Ziggy is the most intriguing prospect in the upcoming NFL draft and that he's destined for a long and very productive career in the NFL.

    Star should also have a good NFL career also, but he won't generate anywhere close to the draft day buzz that Ziggy will generate. Once again, we kids on the hill will have to take a back seat to our big brothers.

  • Duckhunted provo, UT
    April 18, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    he looks like he's 45!!!

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 18, 2013 2:34 p.m.

    Ziggy looks like a great talent. Watching his performance on the field and at the combine, you've got to be impressed. Seems like every year we hear questions about age, missions, etc. Paul Kruger's NFL career doesn't appear to be suffering from his mission.

    Great to see local school's players making it to the NFL. I cheer for all the Utes, Cougars and Aggies in the pros.

    Go Utes.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2013 2:34 p.m.

    Star Lotululei will be the only lineman remembered in this draft from the state of Utah. Ziggy's inexperience will leave him with no suitors after just a couple years.

    Again, half of his experience was against WAC competition.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    April 18, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    It sounds to me that there are some teams out there who would like to get Ziggy but they know he won't be available by the time their turn comes around. Thus, they start the age rumors.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2013 12:45 p.m.


  • DoNotShootTheLittle Birds Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    Faze1950 is right. Ziggy's middle name should be Overwhelming. I can't wait to see him make the Pro Bowl in year 1.

  • Faze1950 West Valley, UT
    April 18, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    It always seems that someone has to come up with a spin on every story. So is the case on Ziggy. He is an over whelming threat to any offensive team on the field. He'll show up a lot of NFL Veterans (and the Media) in his debut into the game, wait and see.

  • DoNotShootTheLittle Birds Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    I predict Ziggy will play for 15 years in the NFL. He'll make the Pro Bowl at least 9 times.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    April 18, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    Does age really matters in NFL? What is number of average years players played in nfl today? How many players had physical beat ups during their young age to college days and Ziggy only played a good 2 or 3 years of football. He is a pretty healthy puppy guy. I wouldn't worry about that and he may just play many good years to come but of course he might finished less than a year if some bad accident come along during his playing time on the field (hope not). Yes age does matter in MLB, NBA & NHL but maybe not. I don't think he is worrying about that.