Gone fishin:Let there be no mistake here. UTAH is the big brother
in the series. We won 3 in a row, 8 of the last 11, had been the better team
over the last quarter century, and have a generation gap in the all-time series.
No "little brother" has had that kind of success over their big bro, so
quit pretending. Big brother had also only missed 1 bowl game in a decade,
whereas little bro had missed 2. Big brother went to (and won) 2 BCS bowls this
past decade, whereas little bro hadn't ever even SNIFFED an invitation to
get blown out, like Hawai'i and No. Illinois.And the ONE
postseason we missed these past 10 yrs....who won that rivalry game?That's what I thought. We only missed a bowl because we
played a substantially tougher SOS. You only went to a bowl because you played
a bunch of weak WAC teams.Utah = your big brother.
2BCS wins,Not really, maybe a very small stream. Let's remember who
went bowling lst year, again, and who sat at home on the sofa. I will say that
Utah can get up for the game when they play their big brother but that does not
make a season. Shall we talk basketball or would you rather tke your lumps and
@gonefishin..."There is an ocean that seperates the top programs of the
conference with the bottom scolls of Utah Colorado."So I guess
that means there is two ocean's that seperate top programs and the cougies
Wow it's starting early this year and despite the unseasonably cold weather
it's already getting hot. I am definitely a U fan, but I
haven't seen either team demonstrate that they have a quarterback that can
be a true leader. The only apparent upgrade from spring drills is on the
U's O-line, but that's against a D-Line that is trying to replace
their two best linemen. Both teams will be a disappointment again unless 1.The
O-lines improve drastically and 2. They find a quarterback that can effectively
run the offense. I'm setting my sights on a mediocre year and
will be happy for anything above 500.
IrrelevantThat is such a perfect name for your football team. It is
also quite descriptive of your argument.Occasional close games do
not speak to BYU coaches "getting more" out of their recruits, I thought
winning mattered more, but apparently BYU fans can now only take pride in
"keeping it close." If you call a combined 166-97 over the past 5 games
close, well, more power to you and your fantasy world. And while we
are on the topic of recruits, wasn't the last 56-10 beatdown in a game
started by your most recent 4 star recruit. How'd all that chest pounding
go for you guys? But hey, he can throw a football into a basketball hoop at the
Marriott Center. Congratulations on your latest April to August
championship. I look forward to another Utah victory at our home away from home
I'm more worried about the QB then the RBs.Let's hope we
Crissy,Nice try. There is an ocean that seperates the top programs of the
conference with the bottom scolls of Utah Colorado. Don't kid yourself.
Having York back means nothing with ab O-line that cannot open up holes and
protect the quaterback.
Irrelevant:"Y does more with these 2 star recruits than the
U,..."The Y "does more" with 2-star recruits because
they "have more" 2-star recruits. The vast majority of OUR 2-star
recruits are buried in the depth chart; thus don't see the field as much.
@Ute4Ever.... at least Dirk is reporting something.Over at the
SLTrib, Lya has been recycling the same information for a week.
@ Irrelevant"the Y does more with these 2 star recruits than the
U"Signed,Paul Kruger, Eric Weddle, Alex Smith, Zane
Beadles, Derrick Shelby (all formerly 2 star recruits now enjoying successful
@ IrrelevantYour comment about U taking the battle but the Y taking
the war is a little off base. What exactly do you define as "the war"?
Is it the all time record between the teams? If that is the case, Utah has won
the war with a 56-34 record. Do you count the last decade? Again Utah wins the
war with a 7-3 record. Do you count just the time since Utah and BYU hired
their coaches? Ok, then Utah still wins with a 5-3 record. Is it the current
win streak? Then Utah wins 3-0. I'm not sure which
"war" you are referring to, but it is pretty clear that, unless you
define "the war" as just the 80's, then Utah owns BYU and the war
is all but over. The only war that BYU wins is the spring football war where
BYU fans and media alike make BYU to be a national championship
contender....only to be exposed by the first quality team they play in the fall.
You can keep the spring war wins, Utah will keep the fall wins.
@Irrelevant, ”the U takes the battle, while the Y takes the war...
year after year.”I'm sorry but this makes no sense.
Irrelevant & Max are right, Utah will never be as good as byu and the
scoreboard proves it.
@ute4everThe Dnews doesn't really care about Utah you're
right. U fans believe the premier program in the state, that may be true but the
U can't compare in the fan base of the Y. BYU articles get more
'hits' than U articles (just look at the amount of comments that they
get compared to the U's articles). The truth is the U recruits better
because they have a bigger pool to draw from, but the Y does more with these 2
star recruits than the U, which results in close games between the two programs.
the U takes the battle, while the Y takes the war... year after
Exhibit A on how much the Deseretnews cares about Utah football....the premier
college football team in the state. "Jerel Oliver" as it is spelled in
the article (before they undoubtedly see this comment and fix it) is actually
Jarrell Oliver and was in the 2 deep last year during spring. Is is SO hard to
look at a Utah roster when you publish an article about Utah and just check the
spelling of a guys name? I'm sure they got BYU's 4th
string punter's name correct though. I guess they play to their audience.
re: GoRed 4/17 at 8:58a"I'll never understand a fan base
who continually gets pounded by their rival, and yet continues to dish trash
talk. Only in Utah."Lets call it the beehive version of the
@max-was-wrongAnd one of those victories will be in Provo. At last
check, we owned you 3 in a row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11, and 56-34-4 overall. I'll never understand a fan base who continually gets pounded by their
rival, and yet continues to dish trash talk. Only in Utah.
@Max,Utah has as good of a chance to win the South as anyone.
That's the beauty of being in a BCS league. Just as last year the winner
of the south had 2 division losses, there isn't much that separates USC
from UCLA from ASU from Arizona from Utah. I would say only
Colorado realistically does not have a shot at the Pac 12 Championship game from
the South division.I think Wilson still has a steep learning curve
to go through, but his physical traits are impressive and could lead us to some
big wins.Go Utes!
With him back, the utes are going bowling for sure. 6-7 here we come.
StGtoSLC,It sounds like you know what you're talking about. Jay Hill
is a great recuiter. I know he does a great job in Texas recruiting!
That's great that the runningbacks actually have an offensive coach
coaching their position now. Jay Hill is a great guy, good special teams coach,
and decent corners coach, but he was a stop-gap solution as RBs coach last year.
Hopefully, an increase in receptions and yards per carry will result.