In 04/05 Sloan had Bloozer, Running in mud Okur, Mr hustle Harpring, give me a
chance Humphries, I was an All star AK, I will be a star Bell, and I can shoot
if I get something from the post Giricek. Sloan posted a awesome 26 win season
with that group. I think Corbin isn't any worse than Jerry. If fact
it's the same offensive sets. Jerry would pull his players at exactly the
same time every game, it didn't matter if they were hot or not. Sloan had
plenty of seasons with similar records to this one, why wasn't he roasted.
He never won a title, and got blown out of the first round plenty of times. I
think Corbin has done a fairly good job with all of the very young up and down
talent that has. My point was that Jackson or Riley wouldn't even attempt
to coach a team like this.
Kakashi, I'm not a Ty fan. I did hear Pat Riley talk about not coaching
again unless he could pick his team. That team included at least a couple all
stars and a dominating center like Alonzo Mourning. Likewise Jackson comes out
of retirement when the stars align in LA. I'm not sure you could teach the
triangle to Jefferson, he can't even rotate off of the pick and roll on
defense. Corbin doesn't have that much talent to work with. Jefferson kills
them on defense, and is a ball stopper on offense, yet Favors has been an up and
down player because of his age. As great as Burks has played at times, he has
stunk it up other times. Marvin can't shoot in this offense because he is a
slasher, hard to slash when you post up big slow guys in the middle. Marvin has
played stellar defense on some tough guys too. Hayward has his moments, but
still can't finish and turns the ball over too much. I've been made at
Corbin all year, but in hindsight he has a bad mix to work with. cont.
@JazzleDazzleJermaine Jackson, Janet Jackson, Jessie Jackson or even
Mickey Mouse could have coached this team and their record wouldn't be much
worse. If Scott Brooks is saying Ty Corbin is the same caliber coach as Phil
Jackson, the Scott Brooks may need to get a psychological evaluation.
@JazzleDazzlejust to add...im sure Scott Brooks made the
comment...so that he would not say something bad against corbin...its out of
respect....but a different coach would have made this a team....heck...Scott
Skiles would whip them up to shape in his first year alone...but the problem
with scott skiles is that he pressures his players to much that after a
year...players wouldnt respect him anymore...but he will get the most out of
@fortydam and Jazzledazzledo you really believe...Corbin has nothing
to work with in Utah?...first of all...if you were paying any attention...how
many games did it take for Corbin to realize...that Alec Burks can play PG with
Hayward?...how many games did it took for corbin to bench marvin williams?...i
dont think the great Phil Jackson would take that long...heck...even Nate
Mcmillan would be able to evaluate his players...as well as Frank Vogel of
Indiana...would have turned this team around...the problem is...Corbin is afraid
to limit Big Al's minutes due to Defense...unless our coach is Thom
Thibodeau...who can develop a scheme so that big Al wouldnt look like a 9 yr old
on D....so to be honest...i wont put much anything on the words of a coach who
choked during last years finals...
@LAJazzFanI agree with your comments. I really believe we will not see
"a long basketball nuclear winter" because I don't believe Greg
Miller is committed to keeping the team here like Larry was. I'm afraid a
few bad years with declining attendance will put an end to a franchise in Utah.
I will be pretty devastated if the teams gets sold and moves out of state.
I'm not going to play the pollyanna role here as I am not happy with
coaching or various players this year either. However, last night when it was
announced that GS Warriors clinched a playoff berth, it was pointed out that it
was only their 2nd in 19 years! We should either be grateful that
the Jazz are still relevant, or hope that a long, cold basketball nuclear winter
isn't upon us.
The biggest problem the Jazz have is their inconsistency. They simply do not
give a consistent effort every game.They were able to give a great
effort on the road against Golden State and it won them the game. Then they
come home and lay an egg. Pathetic effort, very little intensity. This team is
a disappointment because they have the players with potential to be better.
Does it come down to the coach?
@ B RussRead my comment again. I am not a Ty Corbin fan. He is not
the worst coach but certainly not the best. I prefer the Jazz bring someone else
in. However, I do think Brooks has a point and was genuine with his of f the
record comment. No coach could do much more with the Jazz than what they are
@ American VetI see where you are coming from. He did not make the
comments on a radio show. It was actually "off the record." Him and
David Locke are friends and were talking before the game. Locke said he did not
think Brooks would mind him sharing that.@Hugh G HaterThe Jazz are not the Jazz from the glory days, that is for sure. However, the
Williams-Boozer era and a run to the WCF is not rebuilding.The Jazz
are what they are. A small market team. It is not likely they will win a
championship anytime soon, if ever, but I take pride in a team that plays in
this market and is as competitive as they are. Their success is as impressive
as the Lakers 3 peats. The Lakers should be winning titles with their pockets,
and curb appeal. I will say I want a Utah Jazz championship so bad that if I
had 3 wishes I'd use one on that.
Let everyone of these losers walk except for Kanter, Favors and Burks.
Corbin,lindsey and Harpring should also get the shoe.
It boils down to when the Jazz are hitting 3's, and outside shots in
general, they win. When they are missing shots, they lose. Every team has both
good and bad shooting nights but the difference is that good teams play defense
all the time. The Jazz are not defending well so if they are not shooting the
ball well, they are going to lose. The Jazz do have players that have the
ability to play defense, but good defense needs to be players helping each other
out and that's not happening. Why, I blame it on poor coaching. These
players could be coached to play defense but it's not happening. Watch the
team play and decide for yourself, rather than listening to interviews on the
radio where you only get the politically correct version. I used to get set up
on blind dates and I asked are they pretty? Well, they have a great personality!
That meant they were ugly. Corbin also has a great personality!!
The number 5: Favors blocks, turnovers from Milsap and Williams. The bench for
the Jazz was really hurting. With Kanter, Williams, and Burk available; I
believe that the Jazz would have won. Unfortunately and with kudos for the
effort, it is time to bring out the "zamboni machine" and get ready for
hockey. Just whom do you think that CBS is rooting for between the Lakers and
Jazz? Jack Nicholson and all of Hollywood will be there. So, the Jazz need to do
some heavy evaluating with their ten free agents. Once again, the cry is
"wait till next year".
I believe if Corbin was a good coach we would just know it. We wouldn't
need to rely on Scott Brooks or David Locke to tell us about it.
I would have liked to see Evans play some minutes. He has the speed and length
to keep up with OKC. Jazz are just not quick enough against a team as athletic
as OKC. They played good enough defense but they were very slow and tentative on
offense. Thunder have the pieces to win it all, a very good team.
Do you really believe Scott Brooks would get on a Utah Jazz radio program and
make any negative comments about any Utah Jazz coach, or player? You can also go
ask Big T, Bollerjack, and Harpring about Corbin and they will all give you the
same song and dance. They might believe differently privately, but they
won't say anything negative on the air.
Rebuilding since 1999.Nothing will change as long as team management
allows the same old formula of placingall of the teams hopes on aging
veterans and rookies who get limited development time.
I am excited to see our young core take over the reigns next year. I hope this
off season Lindsay can come up with a pass first, play making point guard to
lead this team. I also hope Corbin will be replaced by a coach who is more
defensive minded and will play the best players that give us the best chance to
win reguardless of their age or veteran status. Kanter, Burks, Favors and
Hayward need to all be getting 30 plus minutes next year and we need a coach who
will see that they do. In my opinion.
Jazzledazzle well said! They want to see the youth on the court because their
isn't much else to cheer about on this team. Hayward and Carroll played
like terrible rookies against a much better team. Phil Jackson wouldn't
coach this team, because he and Riley both said they would never coach a team
they didn't get to had pick. Corbin's record with this bunch of
misfits is right in line with Sloans in all of his rebuilding years, look it up.
Sometimes this Corbin thing sounds more like an Aryan brotherhood witch hunt.
The thunder are one of the best teams in the league, Corbin has very little to
work with, and in my humble opinion he has been doomed since day one with the
ghost of Sloan and his outdated offensive schemes hanging over him like these
blogs do. I'm not a Ty fan either, but he hasn't had the tools Phil
Jackson ever had.
@ AmericanvetScott Brooks made the comment to David Locke yesterday
before the game that even if Phil Jackson were coaching the Jazz, their record
probably would not be any different than it is. He meant that as a compliment
to Coach Corbin.Though I am not a big fan of Ty, I think the Jazz
are rebuilding. So many fans complain and whine. At least the Jazz are
competitive while they rebuild. Great effort against OKC. They held OKC to
39%. They lost to the second best team in the league. The Jazz were not flat.
They simply lost to a better team that also had a lot to play for.That said, I would like to see the Jazz hand the reigns over to the young core
next year and add a good free agent.
It seems to me that the older players may be too old to keep up with the
youngsters to really make a difference here. Or there is heart lacking in key
folks, that want to be all-stars, but aren't. I think we may be lacking in
talent, not a land mark point there, but with the lack of talent, there seems to
be lack of heart, and lack of court awareness. That is teh big difference. So
either the coach isn't stressing it, or the players aren't listening.
When you are fighting for a playoff spot, you don't throw sloppy inbound
passes. You make those passes, as if your life depended on it. In this case,
it is your playoff life. If you are going to build youth, and you need veterans
to show the yongsters how to play, you need to find older players then, that
understand the game enough that the youngsters can learn from, and not learn bad
It's really the same old story. The Jazz are just not at the level of the
better teams in the NBA. In fact the Jazz are probably about an average team.
It's frustrating to watch the team go flat on the court while Corbin justs
folds him arms and lets it happen. The OKC coach will call a time out anytime
the Jazz would make even a small run just to settle the team and get them back
on track. I would love to see how the Jazz would respond with a coach that will
take control when needed, call a time out and do a little coaching.