High school boys basketball: Wasatch hires Westminster's Jason Long as its head basketball coach

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  • sportsman44 MIDWAY, UT
    April 10, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    Sorry I don't know you so I shouldn't call cold or timid. But i know Coach and he is a great coach. One example that I see with coach is what he has done with this years second basemen. I know several people that said he should have been cut because he wouldn't amount to much. Because of Coach he is starting and playing really well. Would you say the name Jerry Salon with mediocrity? he had Malone and Stockton and never won a ring. Did the Jazz deserve better than Salon because he didn't win it all with 2 hall of fame players?

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    April 10, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    sportsmen44- I love that quote, I've used it in training with new employees in the past. You see, I've been in the arena, not as a high school coach, but as a business owner for 30+ years. I've felt both victory and defeat many times. I've taken risks that most people wouldn't, some have paid off, others haven't. So calling me cold and timid, just doesn't work my friend. Hard to call a guy who has provided jobs and security for families cold and timid isn't it?

    As I said, Coach S is a good guy, no doubt, but he is timed out. A strong man will admit when it's time for change. The program needs new life and energy. It's been said that "it's not what the coach knows, it's what the players learn, that counts" As the other poster mentioned, the talent seems to stagnate at the high school level. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Like I said, maybe the good people at Wasatch just like mediocrity. Don't the kids deserve better? Expect to Excel?

  • sportsman44 MIDWAY, UT
    April 9, 2013 10:07 p.m.

    joseywales-The Critic Doesn't Count not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place(mike)shall never be with those cold and timid souls(joseywales) who know neither victory nor defeat.

    -Theodore Roosevelt

    Please don't talk bad about coach.

  • armchairQBonthehill Salt Lake City, UT
    April 9, 2013 3:40 p.m.

    Congrats to the new hoops coach. He sounds like he has a lot to offer as the Wasps move to 4A. I have little knowledge of the baseball team politics, but I know several of their current seniors who are both outstanding players and young men. Hopefully they can put a run together to finish their senior year strong.

    The boys soccer program will bring stiff competition to that new region next year. Coach Wheatley's staff and players seem to be on the same page year in and year out and have a really good thing going again this year. While the march madness bracketology is behind us now, if there was a 3A office pool bracket for boys soccer, you'd be hard-pressed not to pencil in the Wasps to play for the title at Rio Tinto again in May. Go WASATCH!

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    April 9, 2013 3:00 p.m.

    skynard- yes, it's sad. I know what you are talking about. I had some family and friends sons who grew up playing in those superleagues as well, and they usually performed well against those teams that were feeders into 3a high schools. Some age groups actually had won several tourneys and been very good. Like I said before, being a good guy, and being a good coach are two very different things. Coach S is a very good guy with the best intentions. He just doesn't get the best out of his players. You see this at all levels, and when it's apparent, usually a change is made. I'm not sure why the Wasatch administration or the parent groups haven't done more to resolve this, but I guess they must love mediocrity. I'm grateful that Coach Green (PC head coach) not only has the knowledge from years of upper level baseball, but also inspires those around him to be the best they can be. On paper Wasatch should dominate PC in baseball, but I'm a betting man, and my money is on the coaching vs. talent this year.

  • skynryd Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 9, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    joseywales--As someone who knows absolutely nothing about the Wasatch baseball coach or program, I can tell you that I do remember several years back being very surprised that the Wasatch baseball program wasn't more dominant. My older son played baseball and graduated '12 from a 3A school in Wasatch's region. During 6th through 8th grade his team faced the Wasatch superleague baseball team frequently and Wasatch totally dominated superleague those years. Each year that we played Wasatch while he was in high school, I always wondered why a team that was so strong in the early years just kinda fizzled out. We are on the tail end of our sons' sports careers--one in baseball the other in basketball (both playing AAU/superleague since 4th grade and on their high school teams). I have learned that a truly good coach is a really hard thing to find--you might find someone who knows the game but is horrendous with kids (way too much negative coaching going on in my opinion) or you find coaches that are great with kids but just aren't great at teaching the sport.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    April 9, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    Theman- I just think that it means more experience in a different environment. Certainly not all cases would be this way, but every level brings new challenges and having someone who has been through those seems like they would bring experience that someone who has only coached high school doesn't have. Coach Green here in PC played in the Angels org., that brings a lot of experience from lots of coaches along the way that someone who just coached legion ball and assistant coached at Lone Peak forever ago can't bring you. As a person, coach S is a great guy, but every year they just do the same things, so I would say new life needs to be brought in to invigorate a stagnant program. With Wasatch moving up to 4A they will face better and more talented opposition. I'm just saying you would think that they would want the best for their athletes, and that would mean the most experience. Football did it, now Basketball, maybe with the success of their soccer program, they just don't care about baseball. Who knows?

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    April 9, 2013 12:47 a.m.

    skynard- wow, this is good news. The other guys they've had were good coaches as well. Hayter won a few titles and so did Magnusson. There are some decent players over in Heber. I have a relative who will play for him, so I'm eager to see his style in action. Maybe Wasatch could use the same tactics to find some new life for the baseball program. Someone like Jason who has the upbeat positive attitude and ability to motivate and get the best out of his players sounds like what that program could use right now. It's good to see the football and now basketball go after and get some guys who have been at the next level, I hope the other team follows suit.

  • skynryd Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    Jason says he's the luckiest guy in the world right now, but the way I see it, the players and their families at Wasatch High are the luckiest people in the world. My son was fortunate enough to play for Jason for several years on Pump N Run and without a doubt, Jason is one of the best coaches my son and our family has ever had the privilege of being associated with. Wasatch will win lots of games. I bet they become a basketball powerhouse because Jason is a master at using an incredibly upbeat and positive attitude to motivate teenagers. I've never seen a coach bring out the best in players like Jason does. Even mediocre players excel under Jason. I can't tell you how many come-from-behind wins my son's PNR team had because Jason never gave up on a game or his players. Congrats Jason--you are an amazing person and your players just struck gold! LP