Grandmother says baby's mom broke up with father prior to shooting

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  • Kate Hutch Kenmore, WA
    April 15, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    Hey Baby, Where do you get those numbers? Please do post your source. Seems to me that any 21-year-old man who gets a woman pregnant and this woman already has two children is going to be severely stressed out with this ready-made family. He is barely an adult himself.

    The statistics might change if birth control was widely available. You must build the nest before you lay the eggs. Get an education, settle yourself, you know, be a grown-up. This was a kid taking on grown-up responsibility. I don't excuse what he did. But he was under tremendous stress to provide for a family when he should have been figuring out who he is. He coupled with her because she took care of him....he was looking for a mommy. Not looking to become a daddy.

  • Civil Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    "More people died in avalanches, mountain climbing and hiking than in all gun incidents combined for 2012."

    You are making that up.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    April 7, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    God bless this family in their time of suffering. In a nation that pounds it's collective chest about how very much we love and value our children--the evidence for that is shaky at best. Very telling how so many on this thread jump to the defense of their beloved guns while attempting (in a very transparent way) to show care and concern for the victim.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    April 7, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    The baby didnt live in a dwelling with two unmarried adults.

    We don't understand the mind. We don't know how to heal the mind.

  • Leah Misch La Crescent, MN
    April 7, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    This story brings tears to my eyes and gives me goosebumps to know what could have happened when I finally left an abusive relationship. I was lucky to get out with out and thank god for the life that has been given to me since leaving. Let this child's life not be invane and for people to take a stand in leaving abuse without living in the fear of retaliation. How can we prevent this from happening again?
    Feel free to read my story that didnt end so tragically...
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  • Hoopcoach Provo, UT
    April 7, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    This is another senseless tragedy in our society. My heart goes out to the mother and other family members that lost a precious child. Because of the selfishness of one person, an infant will never get the chance to do the things that we who are reading this will do. We can't take away someone's agency. HE chose to go get the gun and kill his own son, no one made him do it. The gun did not walk into the room and jump into this idiot's hands and say use me! We as a society need to focus on the root cause of these tragedies. We need to educate better on how to deal with conflict without resorting to violence. Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people. Focus on what needs focus. A more gentle, tolerant, understanding society. Taking away our God given 2nd amendment right is not the answer.

  • rmads Orem, UT
    April 7, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    In reply to the person who blames this terrible death on a 22 rifle. A great many more people are killed by knives, blunt instruments, and hands and feet than by guns. Do you really think this sick person would not have used some other means to end the sweet baby's life had not a gun been available?

    And let's imagine another scenario where a mother happens to be witnessing just such an event unfolding - an abusive man threatening her child. But say she has access to that same 22 rifle and uses is to defend her child. Is the gun still an evil thing then?

  • jayhawker kearns, UT
    April 7, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    More people in Utah died last year from drug over doses and car accidents than gun accidents. More people died in avalanches, mountain climbing and hiking than in all gun incidents combined for 2012. The world is a dangerous place but I don't see anyone "pushing more guns into American society". I think you've just jumped on the "I hate guns" hate bandwagon.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    April 7, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    From the accidental death of a two year old in Layton and the accidental death from a brother shooting a brother at Yuba Lake - to this horrible event, the readily available gun in Utah homes has these horrific consequences. How does the NRA or anyone with an ounce of sense support pushing more guns into American society when the consequences are so obvious.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    April 7, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    Children who live in a dwelling with two unmarried adults have a 400x greater chance of abuse than children who share a dwelling with married adults. I don't know why? It's just a fact.

    This problem came up long before the uneccesary death of this small child.