Defending the Faith: Modern temples echo ancient patterns

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  • Jesus Loves U kaysville, UT
    April 6, 2013 9:37 a.m.

    Actually Sharrona is completely right. The NT clearly teaches that we do not need physical temples of any sort to save us. In Hebrews we become completely aware that Jesus is the altar, His flesh the veil, His heaven the holy of holies, the only High Priest over the house of God. He is our confession, there is no need to go to a temple to receive a sealing since the believers are promised by God that His Spirit, the Holy Spirit of Promise resides in us and we become sealed by Him through our belief as an eternal companion, an eternal bride, with Him our bridegroom forever. Read Eph 1: 14. Temples in the past were only for sacrificial gifts for the redemption of sin through the unblemish blood of lambs. Jesus is our last sacrifice and paid the last drop of blood for our sins. Praise Him..It is completely finished. He fulfilled everything and nailed it to the cross. If we don't go through Jesus as our temple, we miss out on salvation..

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 5, 2013 6:11 p.m.


    Just like Christ your body is a temple for a spirit (your spirit) of God.

    The body is A temple not THE temple.

    Christ is not the New Temple, temples are still temples, and have a number of purposes, and are still necessary for ordinance that must still be performed.

    Most importantly for "Eternal" ordinances that are not performed in everyday use buildings like churches and synagogues.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    April 5, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Re: the truth, The True Temple is Jesus. Jesus “destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” (John 2:19). After Christ’s resurrection the meaning of these words became plain, when Jesus spoke of the destruction of the temple, he was speaking of his own body (John 2:22).
    This is what he meant when he said that one greater than the temple has come! Jesus Christ. It is in Christ’s church–as Jesus’ mystical body–that we find the fulfillment of the O. T. prophecies regarding Jerusalem and the Mountain of the Lord. The promise of a land, will be fulfilled in a new heaven and earth in the consummation (cf. Romans 4:13; Hebrews 11:9-10). The N.T. teaches that Christ is the New Temple.

    Christ’s body is the true temple–as Paul puts it, “For we are the temple of the living God” (2 Corinthians 6:16)–what use remains for an a future literal temple? That to which the temple had pointed, is now a reality through the work of the Holy Spirit.

  • Verdad Orem, UT
    April 5, 2013 12:15 a.m.

    I think, Fred Anson, that you've completely missed Peterson's point.

    And I wasn't talking about how many churches you've seen. Which means that you missed my point, too.

  • Fred W. Anson Lake Forest, CA
    April 4, 2013 9:01 p.m.

    @Verdad you said, "Do ALL churches claim such experiences for ALL of their buildings, Fred Anson?"

    No, but by Mr. Peterson's standard they COULD - that was my point. But most other churches don't because they: a) They don't see the need, and; b) don't seem to feel the need to engage in hyperbolic rhetoric.

    And, frankly, I HAVE been in a lot of churches of many flavors, denominations, and styles so I AM speaking from experience.

    Thanks for asking.

  • Verdad Orem, UT
    April 4, 2013 6:46 p.m.


    You seem to ignored Peterson's actual point -- you don't mention it, at least -- in order to attack him for something that, in MY edition of the column anyhow, he doesn't actually say.

    Where does Peterson claim that Ezekiel saw "a future LDS temple in Old Jerusalem"?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 4, 2013 6:15 p.m.


    Temples are used for more than just sacrifices.

    And those sacrifices were actually done outside the temple building proper, in a courtyard.

  • Michigander Westland, MI
    April 4, 2013 3:00 p.m.

    "Ezekiel [chapters] 40-48 represents that prophet as receiving divine specifications for a still-future temple."

    Those specific chapters (if one reads them) speak about various animal and other sacrifices and offerings of the priests of Zadok, and have ALL been fulfilled with the building of the temple that functioned during Jesus' ministry (26-30 A.D.)

    "And ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away, for I will accept none of your burnt offerings. And ye shall offer for a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit ..." [3 Nephi 9:19-20a]

    The days of temple building have been over since April 30 A.D. with the Great and Last sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, for the sins of the world.

    Dr. Peterson's stretch of the imagination and interpretation that Ezek.40-48 means the building of a future LDS temple in Old Jerusalem are astonishingly incredulous. "Modern temples echo ancient patterns" - not even close.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 4, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    I think the "Pattern" referred to was that the Lord revealed the design of His temple(s) to His prophet(s). In a limited space, Doctor Peterson didn't have time to address the floor plan or rituals. Maybe it all came at once or maybe piece by piece as needed. I appreciate the article and look forward to his column each week. I, for one, and grateful he takes time from his academic load to write a weekly column on items I personally find interesting and enlightening. If there be faults, they are the faults of men, but the subject is divine, at least to me.

  • Verdad Orem, UT
    April 4, 2013 11:35 a.m.

    Was Peterson talking about mere similarities in floor plan?

    My mistake. I thought he was talking about the idea that specific design elements for temples were given in distinct revelations -- and the Frederick G. Williams account of the vision that he shared with Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon seems pretty spectacular, actually. To me, at least. Do ALL churches claim such experiences for ALL of their buildings, Fred Anson? Maybe you get around more than I do.

  • Fred W. Anson Lake Forest, CA
    April 4, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    So by that standard what church COULDN'T claim that the layout for ANY church building wasn't a revelation?

    "And as the Elders considered the layout for the new Church Educational wing it was revealed as if a Polaroid picture in the air that at the center should be the basketball court with men's and women's locker rooms on the north and south sides. Later they discovered that this was in accordance with the layout of many Greek Olympian Temples - a validation of God's revelation to them."

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 4, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    ‘Defending the Faith: Modern temples echo ancient patterns’


    Nice article, but the title was a little decieving.

    I thought there would be more "patterns" such as,
    White clothing, turbans, veils, Holy of Holies, Altars, ect.
    But the LDS Temples are by far the closest things to the Ancient Temples.

    I recall a rather large Menorah placed near the altar, near the veil in the Salt Lake Temple many years ago.

    And don't forget --
    The large granite Ka'aba in Mecca. With it's inner sanctum Holy of Holies.
    Believed to have been built by Abraham himself.
    Where followers try to visit at least one in their lifetime.
    and walk around the Temple Square several times.

    Not to mention Ankor Wat, or the Pyramids (both Egyptian and Meso-American).

    Speaking of Temples and Pyramids -- have you ever noticed the 6 "pyramid" shaped towers atop the Salt Lake LDS Temple? Very few people do.

    Yes, Ancient Temples -- seem to follow a common pattern aright.