2 Pineview boaters given maximum sentences in death of swimmer

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  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    March 28, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    Yes Cleetorn, good people sometimes do bad things through bad choices. However, truly good people don't do drugs and don't leave victims of an accident they cause, to take care of themselves. The only "raw deal" here was given to the victim.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    March 28, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    The general public sometimes has a hard time distinguishing the difference between good people and the bad things that they do. Just because somebody does a bad thing does not make them a bad person. That would be tantamount to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    I have no doubts that, as Marsha Winter claims, Raines really is a good guy (as well as the others). It’s just that he and his friends did a thing that is incomprehensibly and despicably inhuman and lived to lie about it. And I don’t mean running the woman under the boat. I refer to all that they have done to avoid responsibility immediately thereafter and since. That was a bad thing.

    That is what they are being punished for, not for being who they are.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    March 28, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    A woman died, how in the world is that a raw deal? These three should have realized the terrible accident and stopped to help. Had they called for help, gotten her in the boat and tried to stop the bleeding she might still be alive. Even in death it would have then been a terrible accident. This is terrible, poor choices, it seems, by all involved led to a terrible accident. Never run from your problems but stop to face them.

  • Forgotten Man Salt Lake City, UT
    March 28, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    If you think these so-called men got a "raw deal" you need to re-examine your life. They were operating a dangerous piece of equipment having willingly impaired their senses. Then, due to their inebriation, they ran over an innocent victim. Rather than rendering aid to her whom they had mortally injured, they cowardly left her to bleed to death. On top of that, they then conspired to cover up their negligence and cowardice and then lied about it on numerous occasions. I only wish they had been punished more harshly to send a message that this type of behavior cannot be tolerated.

  • CUT Salt Lake City, UT
    March 28, 2013 9:05 a.m.

    It is unfortunate the law didn't allow for stiffer sentences. Marsha Winter and her ilk ought to be ashamed of themselves talking about a "raw deal". The only ones who got a raw deal were the victim and her family.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    March 28, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Terrible accident but the real story is not the accident but the fact they just left her there. Hurt or not they should have helped her or at least asked if she needed help. (Even assuming she was OK).

    I agree with some of the others that I think they got off light for their actions. Would be interesting to know if they are remorseful at all or just remorseful that they got caught. If substance abuse was involved then they should really throw the book at them. Either way the family of the victim still suffers. God Speed to them.

  • Reader Sandy, UT
    March 28, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    She may have been outside the swimming area,but they left her to die and tried to cover up their involvement. If they had called 911 and tried to help her the fact that she was swimming outside the safe area would probably have been in their favor, and the whole thing would have been called a tragic accident. Drugs and alcohol are not great contributors to the thinking process.

  • spudman Cottonwood, AZ
    March 28, 2013 7:45 a.m.

    "It kills me because I know what a good kid he is." If he is such a good kid, why was he such a coward? He may be a good kid but he did a terrible thing and now must pay the price for his actions.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 27, 2013 6:14 p.m.

    Good. But even this is much, much too lenient.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    March 27, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    To me, it seems the got away with murder.