Every year my company pays more money for less healthcare coverage because of
insurance companies raising their rates. They have NEVER once given us a break
on cost. So now Obamacare kicks in and we are all somehow surprised that costs
are going up? They always go up anyway! This is somehow news??You
fox parroting tea partiers have no shame. You all spout off about charity but
then in your urge to be on the team against the president essentially say that
all poor people without coverage should have no other recourse but to die.You know, its no surprise that people in Utah hate the president
that's old news, we get it, but you know your bunch of obstructionists in
congress have offered absolutely nothing to fix the health care issue... They
don't have a plan, they have never have had a plan to fix that, or anything
else for that matter. So just sit there and parrot what your fake news masters
tell you and just hope that you don't ever get really sick and find out
what insurance in this country is really like. It's real noble work
re:marxistI actually have to agree with you on this one. A single
payer systems would be better than what this million page train wreck called
'Obamacare' has turned out to be. It's driving up insurance rates
and putting people out of work. Not exactly what was promised by Barack. Recall
he told us all we would be paying on the average 2500 less per year each and the
total cost would only be 800 billion. Well we are probably closer to paying 2500
MORE per year and the new CBO cost estimates are 2.8 trillion with a T! I
honestly don't know if America could afford a single payer system like some
of the small European countries have - but it appears we are headed in that
direction regardless so we just have to hope we don't end up like most of
Europe is today with their entitlement nightmare.
Dems should just legistlate away high prices.
Will someone please define affordable.Obama said affordable
insurance is what he'll bring to everyone, plus cutting the deficit in
ECR,thank you for admitting BO is deceitful. I think that's the main
reason he won re-election.Thank you for not trying to refute that
Obamacare is a lie.Thank you for not trying to refute that Obamacare
is failing.So if the election and the SCOTUS telling us we can be
taxed for not eating brocolli (another Dred Scott decision) means that we WANT
socialized medicine, why doesn't BO have harry introduce it in the senate?
lost in DC - I guess you were on vacation during the Supreme Court decision last
year and then there was an election, sometime in November, in which that
deceitful president was re-elected and his oppostion in the Congress had their
numbers significantly decreased. You should have been there. It was
For all you people who think Obamacare is going to work for all, I can tell you
from actual family experience that there are procedures being denied old people
now that were not denied only a couple of years ago. Death panels anyone?
Socialized medicine is medicore medicine, and not for all at that. That is real
life folks, not political philosophy. But you can just bet that the rich
Democrats who foisted this mess on us will have their concierge doctors for
their needs, and won't be denied any medical care they want. Amazing to
think that Democrats have made people believe they care about people more than
Repbulicans do. The big lie!
ECR,thank you for being upfront and recognizing this is just a lie to push
us to a socialized system. But I disagree with you about the desirability of a
socialized system. Since BO and the dems could not foist such a system on us,
and the dems were soundly routed in 2010 because of Obamacare, it appears the
majority of the citizenry also oppose such a system.SajuaroSteve,I see you could not answer ANY of the headlines indicating Obamacare is a
failure and a lie. By failing to do so, you admit Obamacare IS a
failure. ThanksBTW, I do not watch Fox and I have other sources
than the DN. But if you think the DN is so unreliable, what are YOU doing here?
Raising premiums? Obama? Why didn't you keep your promise?
Obamacare is a fraud, sold with lies and based on lies, or at least total
ignorance or willful disregard of the facts of how health care is actually
delivered and paid for.Repeal it now. Every last word, every last
tax, fee, mandate or provision. Everything!Obamacare has taken more
money out of the pockets of patients, employers and providers, and provided
exactly ZERO new doctors, nurses or hospitals, or steamlined any bureaucracy.
He has institutionalized every bad feature, and made everything worse.If you though health care was expensive then, just compare the cost and
services provided to now when it is "free!"Repeal Obamacare
Lost in DC...you watch too, much Fox News and only read Desert News.
Republicans are driving around in circles with each other. Get out and talk
with your fellow citizens and educate yourself. You too can learn!
Obamacare has a waiver in it that lets states bail out of Obamacare as long as
they design their own plan that covers at least as many people and is no more
expensive than Obamacare. So far only Vermont has gone this route. I don't
see Utah working on a solution so I guess they either don't have one, or
frankly don't give a darn about healthcare for the poor and those with
SajuaroSteve,Obamacare is successful?then why are dems ducking
it?why is it still unpopular?Why do the headlines read,
"Millions face sticker shock of health exchanges", "Obama's
health care law to raise claims cost by 32%", "Obamacare insurance plans
may be expensive", "insurance premiums may rise for 80% of Americans
under age 30", and "millions left uninsured by gap in Obamacare"?Those types of headlines do not indicate a successful program.But then I guess if you get a sliver in your finger and you cut it your arm
off, you can say you were successful in preventing any infection from your
finger from spreading. That's a pretty pathetic definition of success!
lost in DC 12:26 - Wow. You must know the DN monitor. If I use that many
capital letters I get totally censored! =)But seriously, I'm
going to be totally upfront with you. As much as I defend the president on the
issue of the ACA, I would like nothing more than for it to fail and have us turn
to a single payer national healthcare plan. Every industrialized nation in the
world, except us, has that type of plan and they do it for less money and in
many cases, maybe most, the healthcare they offer is better. Oh sure, I might
have to wait a week to have a hip replaced instead of having it done this
afternoon but it works better than ours and for less money. That's because
they have discovered that the health of our their citizens should be provided
without a profit motive involved. As I've said before, healthcare as a for
profit business is immoral. That doesn't mean doctors and other healthcare
professionals shouldn't be well compensated but the people that make the
most money in our system are insurance company executives. For doing what?
We need a single payer system (MEDICARE FOR ALL!), but the insurance and health
care industries had to retain their respective pieces of the action, so we ended
up with Obamacare, so-called. Flawed as it is, I don't want to go back to
thke old days when insurers could deny access, cut off benefits and condemn
people to death.
In my career in business I have seen my share of plans for accomplishing
something. None was ever perfect. Unintended consequences were common. Those
plans that became successful were those that were supported and allowed to
evolve over time.However, even the best of plans were no match for a
lack of support. Everyone agreed afterwards that they knew all along that the
plan would fail. On the other hand there were unimpressive plans that were
highly supported that were very successful. We all knew that they would be.If your intent is to stonewall the Affordable Care Act at every turn,
you're right. It will likely fail. Should you support it and do what you
can to make it successful, it will be. Over time it will evolve into something
we can be proud of.
When obamacare fails. They'll need to find a group of people or someone to
blame. Let's dig through the democrat arsenal of Talking Points of Blame:
"ATMS" "Tsunmai" "Old white people"
"Republicans" "Bush" "Fox News" "Not big enough"
"Tea Party" "Assault Rifles" "High capacity clips"
"Sugar" "Racists cops" "Clinging to guns and religion"
"Not enough welfare" "Congress".....hmmmm or maybe they'll
go back to obama's "gutsy" call that no one else would have made to
go after osama (it's not related, but, it's the only positive thing
that has happened).
What scares living daylights out of repubs is ObamaCare is sucessful., people
get coverage, and pre existing conditions are history. All their anti-american
winning will be exposed. Thank you President Obama for your leadership on this
Can't blame this one on Bush! Look at the rats run for cover!! And they
really can't figure out why the unemployment rate isn't coming down
much, even though the rest of the economy is getting "so much better".
why would they "duck" away from Obamacare? It's popular - right???
Yes. Just like the cowards they are. Although bo is a little smarter than the
average democrat. He quickly blames anyone else that he can possibly pass it off
to.Now they're claiming obummercare is a failure because it
isn't big enough and they were thwarted at every step.Really?
When you control the majority of Congress the majority of the Senate and control
the office of President in the White House. And you can push your agenda
through without a single Republican vote. It is all yours dependentcrats. All
of the glory and all of the blame that goes along with your march in step to
your liberal drummer.
Lobbyists OWN the healthcare delivery system.The only way the
American consumer will ever not be at the bottom of the "pecking order"
in terms of dollars spent wisely on healthcare is if the lobbyists are shut out
of the process totally!Pick 4 Repubs, and 4 Demos. along with 5 DRs.
(notice 13 people - no tie votes)put them in a room and tell them to improve the
healthcare delivery apparatus. No lobbyists allowed.All we're
doing up to now is taking money from the "left pocket" instead of the
"right pocket" in terms of funding/payments to the medical profession
and health insurance companies.
No matter how much some of you may believe that the Republicans are more to
blame, just remember, it is Obamas health plan, passed in Congress with arm
twisting and only Democrat votes. If there had been some sort of
bi-partisanship when passing the biggest, most expensive government legislation
in history, then maybe you could criticize the Republicans. But they were left
out and told to go pound sand when it passed. It is a totally
"partisan" program. That whole operation to get it passed by Reid and
Pelosi was hardly "working together".
Ajax,Any thoughtful person should have read and understood a complex law
affecting 1/6 of our economy before they passed it.Too bad your
subservience to the DNC and MSNBC does not allow you to see that the repubs DID
offer alternatives, but they were ignored or relegated to the back of the
bus.Anne26,BO never wanted this to work; he and the dems WANT
it to fail so we will run gladly into socialized medicine with all the ills and
shortcomings associated therewith.ECR,Regardless of whether or
not premiums would still be rising without the law, BO LIED!!! He said costs
would go down. And the reason for rate of increases slowing was BO’S POOR
ECONOMY, not the effects of this bad law. The contention that they would have
increased anyway comes from federal regulators, WHO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN
SEEING Obamacare SUCCEED!!!
Just wait until people sell their homes and get 3% of the sales price deducted
from their check. This 3% is part of how the Democrats expect to help pay for
this rammed-down-our throats law. I will guarantee that 90% of the
citizen's are not aware of this tax. They will scream and rant, but where
were they when Congress was asleep at the wheel when passing this bill. Did
they write a single letter to their congressional representative stating their
opposition to this tax or this bill. Doubt it.
They all gave themselves exemptions from the Obamacare law. This news is 3 years
old. Why are you only reporting it now?
I haven't had health insurance for me or my family now for 10 years.
Anything is better than nothing. I have' always thought, people that
don't like United Health Insurance....must have health insurance. Reform
has to happen....The fact that the two parties can't work together in order
to reform anything in a way that will benefit humanity is gross, and has been
the pattern. Revise it and put it on his desk, but has anything happened?
Nope. Doesn't even make it to the mans desk. It's a joke.
In his effort to tell the truth to his readers, Mr. Schulzke should take time to
present more than the information that will support his previously established
premise. Of all publications, the conservative National Review even quoted a
NYT article that included this paragraph:"The double-digit
requests in some states are being made despite evidence that overall health care
costs appear to have slowed in recent years, increasing in the single digits
annually as many people put off treatment because of the weak economy.
PricewaterhouseCoopers estimates that costs may increase just 7.5 percent next
year, well below the rate increases being sought by some insurers. But the
companies counter that medical costs for some policy holders are rising much
faster than the average, suggesting they are in a sicker population. Federal
regulators contend that premiums would be higher still without the law, which
also sets limits on profits and administrative costs and provides for rebates if
insurers exceed those limits."That last sentence is the most
telling - "...premiums would be higher still without the law...". Yes
preiums have raised and will raise but not because of the ACA. Journalism 101 -
tell the whole story.
The company my sister has worked for for the past 15 years, has decided that
under ObamaCare, they can no longer afford to provide health insurance for their
employees. They have decided that paying the penalty would end up being a much
cheaper option for them. They have left hundreds of employees and their
families without any form of healthcare coverage.I am beginning to
believe that Obama never cared whether Americans had health coverage or not. He
created a system wherein the government would actually benefit from employers
discontinuing coverage. You fail to buy health insurance for your employees?
Then the government collects money from your company by way of a penalty. It is
a win/win for them. Obama can look like a hero, while collecting new revenue
(tax) for his pet programs. It sickens me.What we need is actual
reform, which this is not. People, open your eyes.
I agree with Ajax that there needs to be a healthcare reform. But in my humble
opinion this isn't the way to go about it. Anyone who has ever worked in
the medical field knows that the insurance companies have all the power. And
now, we are going to pay them more money in premiums? How does that seem fair
for all of us who currently have medical insurance. I have no problem helping
people out who need it, but not when it is going to make someone else rich
because of it. How about we crack down on insurance companies and
hold them to do what they say that they are going to do? Help pay for the
medical expenses of people who pay them every month? I think that would be a
start in healthcare reform.
One, two, three say it: "Ohh Bummer!" Better still, let's call it
Of course they are. Today, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen
Sebelius acknowledged that Obamacare is raising premiums. We all knew this was
going to happen when the bill was passed, but the Democrats put their heads in
the sand and voted to approve the bill anyway. Nancy Pelosi famously said,
"we need to pass the bill to see what is in the bill". They didn't
even read the bill before voting on it. This was legislating at its worst.
When you get your bill this month, or your employer begins to take more from
your paycheck this month to cover health, thank the Democrats!
Any thoughtful person should recognize that we are desperately in need of health
care reform. So I find comments like, "Republicans have been aggressively
jumping on any sign of weakness in the new (affordable care) law" very
disappointing. If there are problems why not join in and work together to
achieve a responsible solution. I'm always troubled by how politically
motivated, self-serving and plainly destructive the Republican response has
become. Don't they have any feelings or sincere ideas of what might
actually be in the best interests of we Americans? The usual Republican refrain
of, "Well, our motivations may not always be the best but the Democrats are
far worse" is wearing a bit thin.
They probably will be by next election.
I can't predict the future. I have said before in posts here that we
cannot afford this law. Affordable Care Act--what a bunch of bologna. I hope
that things will change, but we just cannot afford this law. It may seriously
hurt the economy of this country and put business' in a position where they
stop offering health insurance. The company that I work for right now is
considering stopping their health insurance coverage for employees. So if this
is the case with my company what is the point of Obamacare to just get everyone
on the government exchanges? I'm not happy with this so perhaps I need to
try to do more within my sphere of influence. As I have said before we CANNOT
afford the Affordable Care Act. It is a sick joke meant to destroy us and give
too much power to the government.