Deferred maintenance and obsolete features plague U.S. schools

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 26, 2013 12:27 a.m.

    @John C. C.--the money is there, but not managed efficiently.

    Let me quote SME --"perhaps the solution isn't to continually increase taxes but to properly prioritize the use of the money already collected".

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    March 25, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    Our Utah legislators believe we can't improve education by throwing money at it. Maybe we should all pray for the buildings to heal themselves.

  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 25, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    I wonder if the brand new multi billion dollar East that was built back in 1995 ever got air conditioning?

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 25, 2013 6:37 a.m.

    When I went to Woods Cross High School, they had windows that didn't open. They weren't needed it was said because the blowers would assure we had fresh air. No one really liked that feature of the school.

    May I suggest, that the building really isn't that important. It is excellence in content and good teachers that are the things we ought to focus on.

  • SME Bountiful, UT
    March 25, 2013 6:22 a.m.

    One Old Man, perhaps the solution isn't to continually increase taxes but to properly prioritize the use of the money already collected.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 24, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    @one old man- Modern physics, chemistry, geography, history, mathematics are found in Asia. Half our college graduates are from other countries, and our students are far behind of what we had during the 1740-1960's.

    Most of our HS graduates can't read, or do basic math.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 24, 2013 8:04 p.m.


    One thing you continually like to ignore in the education process is the role of the parent and student. Give me the ability to discipline that teachers had in the 1740's and commitment to education that students and parents had at that same time and I could do it better and for less with the technology we have today. I am sure though in your mind that is just another excuse from a lazy overpaid teacher.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 24, 2013 7:41 p.m.

    But DN -- aren't the realities of day to day life much different now than they were in those days?

    Jefferson and his contemporaries were educated in the classics. They were able to read Greek and Latin and knew well of the philosophers of ancient times. Was their education really "wider" or was it simply concentrated in a much smaller aspect of knowledge than we now have. Remember, the sum total of human knowledge is now doubling about every two years. Are modern physics, chemistry, geography, history, mathematics far beyond the ken of Jefferson and his friends really "claptrap?"

    Let me ask: If you had been educated as they were, how would you fare in today's world?

    Could the REAL problems in education today result not from the curriculum and teachers, but from a national culture that now places entertainment far above education?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 24, 2013 5:54 p.m.

    Compare today's school facilities and programs with those that existed in the colonies circa 1740-1800, and compare the education achievements of the founding fathers with today's graduates from high school or college. The modern graduates do not fare well. New England farmers of the 19th century had a broader and better education than high school or most college grads today.

    Too much emphasis is on useless material that mollifies liberal feel-good desires, but has little actual use. Too often the physical facilities, as well as teacher pay are claimed to be the cause for the relatively poor performance of today's teachers and students. OR we can reject the excuses and demand that teachers actually teach essential material, not the politically correct claptrap they are so fond of.

    It's not the funding, or the buildings that are hurting education, it is the agenda and performance of too many of those in the "education" monopoly today. Regardless of what the teachers unions tell you.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 24, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    Actually, school buildings are only one of many parts of our national infrastructure that are falling apart.

    We have some of the finest highways, bridges, water and sewer systems and other facilities in the world -- but we build them and forget about them because Americans refuse to be taxed at rates sufficient to keep them all in good repair.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 24, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    Is "they can use a tudor as a resourse" a sample of what happens when parents do the teaching?

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    March 24, 2013 3:35 p.m.

    Or how about our state and local governments step up a bit more where they could and say take that foreign aid to countries that hate us, kill that and send more to schools so they could use this for infrastructure repairs and update technology? Then this could free up state and local money to increase teacher salaries and help attract and retain quality teachers.

    As for parents teaching their own children, not against the concept worf. But I doubt many parents are going to give up their jobs for say the 7K that Utah invests in education per child, even if it is even 7K just throwing that out there. Let's say they even get 25K which might be what they spend on a child in Washington D.C., that isn't going to pay the bills for most parents. Bottom line is that schools, for better or worse, have become a cheap baby sitter/daycare option for parents.

    As for as some parents even being intellectually equipped to teach their own children curriculum to survive in the 21st Century, well maybe schools do better with this, even in their current state, than many parents could.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 24, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Let's just pay parents to teach their own children. With the money, they can use a tudor as a resourse, and this can cut the budget in half.