Utah media landscape a story of three screens

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  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    March 25, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Take away the hits for KSL Classifieds, and what do you have?

  • D-Ruck Salt Lake City, UT
    March 25, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    dalefarr hit the nail on the head. The numbers contained in this story are so wildly off the mark it's ludicrous. I personally do get most of my news from ksl, but I will also tell you there is absolutely no way the desnews is outperforming the tribune in any measure. The desnews website makes it impossible to find content, and when you do the stories tend to completely miss the mark. Sigh. I guess this is what happens when you buy the ink - you control the message and the statistics.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    March 25, 2013 2:37 p.m.

    I actually read both the DesNews and SLTrib on a daily basis. Went I want "soft" news and most of the headlines, I will go to the DesNews. But when I want "all" of the news, I go to the SLTrib. I find it interesting the stories the DesNews leaves out of their paper. To get a true feeling of what is going on in Utah, I feel I need to read both.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 25, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    To "jace1012" they have live streaming of their news broadcasts, they are hard to dig up on their site, but they are available live.

    To "On the other hand" you realize that KSL TV, Radio, and the Deseret News are all owned by the LDS church, and that would explain why they write pro-LDS articles.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    March 25, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    While I agree with the article, it still has the feel that they are making excuses for the KSL 10:00 news which lost it's dominant hold at that spot to KUTV Channel 2 at 10:00. Channel 2 has been the top 10:00 newscast for over a year after KSL held that spot forever. As a 44-year old white, married, Mormon (for demographic purposes only), I read the DesNews a few times a day, watch Fox 13 at 9:00 since it comes on earlier, and watch KJZZ and CW30 starting at 10:00 for The Office, Simpsons, Rules of Engagement. Since I am a man, I can't watch just one show at once.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    March 25, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    Is this story some sort of excuse for KSL's decline in the ratinging and the Deseret News morphing from a traditional newspaper into a sort of news magazine.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 25, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    I have confidence that KSL is credible but NBC is a major manipulator of the news to fit NBCs agenda.I wonder how much of NBCs lies spill over into KSLs reporting.I do not watch any of the the old three major networks as I do not trust that what they report is not biased. CBS and ABC are no better.

  • Downtime Saint George, UT
    March 25, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Have you ever watched the local news reports? They are terrible. The anchors try to be so dramatic on every story. I try to watch, but I can't. The banter between the two anchors on all four channels is just painful to watch. It's as if thy do not know how to act or speak if it's not spelled out for them on the teleprompter. The anchors really don't seem to know anything about anything. And the female anchors trying to banter with the sportscasters; just plain ridiculous. The female anchors prove all the stereotypes. It is also painful to watch the weather people try to convince us that they actually control the weather. If I need info on a breaking local story, I simple go to the Internet. And I really don't care what is Gephart approved, or how you got money back for someone. I could go on and on and on...but I won't. This story supports my observation.

  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 25, 2013 7:19 a.m.

    You know what the issue with TV news is? There's too much of it. Most channels have three hours in the morning Then another hourlong broadcast three hours later (two if you're FOX13). Then later afternoon until like 7, then three hours later you have the 10 o clock go round. I'm sorry but there is not THAT much happening in Utah that needs so many hours of indepth coverage. Then to add insult to injury, they still halt everything anyway if there's something going on big enough to warrant that coverage.

  • Interloper Portland, OR
    March 25, 2013 1:54 a.m.

    When I watch national nightly news, two or three times a week, it is usually time-shifted on a Vudu streaming device that offers "NBC Nightly News" as one of its channels. I can watch it any time and it doesn't have commercials.

    I am skeptical about the Deseret News and its affiliate broadcasters being as far ahead of competitors as the article claims. The Salt Lake Tribune is a pretty good newspaper. More important, it offers much broader based content. And, I believe its articles are written better. (For example, the DN"s piece about people choosing to have children before marrying was barely readable.) Sure looks like they are massaging facts to toot their own horn. This paper is more advocacy for LDS than actual news.

    The newspapers I get paid subscriptions for on my iPad are those that are broad in scope. They include the Miami Herald and the NYT. Not Mormon and not from Utah, I see the DN mainly as a curiosity. For a time I read S.C.'s largest newspaper for the same reason.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2013 9:53 p.m.

    I agree with the comments lamenting that newspapers and TV do not do investigative reporting anymore. I think the management is afraid to expose shady performance because they are afraid of upsetting the apple cart politically. UTA, West Valley City PD and State Prison relocation are three topics that the news media seem to ignore or go along to get along and make me not trust them as much as I would like.

    And I agree that the cutsey banter on KSL is forced, fake and a waste of time. The two new guys are middle weight at best, and I would have chosen Brian M. and Deannie W. for the anchors. Best anchor in my not so humble opinion - Bob Evans.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    March 24, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    I meant to say that Channel 2 currently has nearly as many viewers as Channels 4 and 5 combined for their 10 o'clock news. Channel 5 used to dominate that time slot. Not anymore.

  • jace1012 Denver, CO
    March 24, 2013 8:38 p.m.

    There are many people with Utah roots who live in others places around the world. Like myself, I like to keep up with what is happening on the home-front. Many LDS people living around the world will turn to KSL for their Utah news source.
    Although KSL will boast about their online numbers, it does not mean users are satisfied with their mode of content delivery.
    1) Why doesn't KSL have live streaming newcasts available online like many other media outlets?
    2) Why has KSL not made their local news broadcasts available on streaming platforms such as Roku?
    KSL has nothing to brag about until they step up to the plate and have their local newscasts streamed on accessable online platforms. In the past, Bonneville has embraced emerging technologies. But it doesn't appear to be the case for KSL these days.

    What happened to the solid investigative reporting in the past on KSL? I remember outstanding former KSL investigative journalists such as Conn Psaras. None of that today on KSL.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 24, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    What turns me off to the TV News is that they used to have about 15 commercials in an entire newscast. How many do you think they have now? And they throw out a tickler and make you wade through at least a half dozen commercials, maybe more. Whenever they say "Don't change channels" I do just that.

    Then their live news feeds from a Breaking News story have reporters that can't tell you thing one without looking constantly at their notebook. Whatever happened to training people to think on their feet, stay on message and not just say the same thing 5 times over and call it news?

    I find it amusing to read the paper and see editorials begging the Governor to veto a bill that he actually vetoed two days before. The same is true of printed news stories, too. I subscribe to the newspaper for coupons, comics, sudoko puzzles and the frequent bizarre sports story. That's all they got for me.

    I watch TV news to get (finally) to the weather report, which isn't particulary accurate.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    March 24, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    What this story fails to report is that Channel 2 currently has nearly as many viewers as Channels 4 and 5 for the 10 o'clock news. We used to watch Channel 5 exclusively. But something happened to their news content four or five years ago (maybe more). Maybe it's due to their tie to NBC. Whatever the reason, I have found it necessary to get my news elsewhere. I go to the DesNews' website for local information, but have also found the content mostly to be web triviality, and not news.

  • mytymouse09 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 24, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    I am not a fan of the changes KSL has made with the look of their studio, and how they change from sitting behind that strange desk, to sitting on a couch, to standing. Just stay put behind a regular desk. Also, too many "anchors" giving their points of view. Miss Bruce Lindsay and his professionalism. Seems there is a strange emphasis on the "anchors" trying to be average people or something, with too much giddiness. However, I do like their weather forecasters, and the morning male anchor (sorry, I'm not the best with remembering names!).

  • John Lorz South Jordan, UT
    March 24, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Journalism appears to be a thing of the past. Investigations that expose corruption in society and governments by independent, hard-nosed journalists has devolved into Dick Gephardt TV ads. Corporate ownership of news outlets makes it impossible to ask the hard questions necessary to expose corruption for the simple, understandable reason that "those guys could sue us!"

    And that appears to be the way Americans want it: They'll read or watch whatever reinforces the warmth and safety of their confirmation biases.

  • Shauna Huntington Beach, CA
    March 24, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    I live in CA and I am always checking KSL and Deseret News for the latest Utah news. I grew up there and want to keep up with what is happening since I visit once in a while and hope to return some day. I enjoy having this resource available to me. I just wish it was available to watch on line.

  • Mom of 8 Hyrum, UT
    March 24, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    The rare times I watch TV news, I find myself annoyed with the flashing graphics, the quick shots, the non-news news, and the endless teasers ("Who is the government investigating? We'll tell you in a bit. For now, let's . . .").

    I don't have time for such nonsense. I get the impression the news is engineered for short-attentioned demographics, but guess what--they're not watching, either!

    Try something different. Give us the news, straight, quickly, and with no fluff. I still remember watching Walter Cronkite as a kid. No tricks--just information.

    That's why I get all my news online. If something is fluffy, I skip it till I find something real. In less than 5 minutes I get more than the local news delivers in 30 minutes.

    TV news will die unless it becomes something that looks newsworthy.

  • JRJ Pocatello, ID
    March 24, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    With these changes in news viewing, can the consumer possibly hope for a more honest reporting of same? I am tired of the cover-up, the cowardly hiding of anything adverse to the barry administration, and the lack of that transparency we heard so much about. Good luck getting there.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2013 7:31 a.m.

    I've often joked that by the time the evening news is on, it's not "news" at all - as the info has already been out on the web. It's the same even with weather reports. Why wait until the evening news is on to find out what the weather will be?

  • Oldy Glocks Orem, UT
    March 24, 2013 6:04 a.m.

    If there was more of a difference regarding the subjects in the daily reporting of what is called news, I might look at it for more then 5 minutes.
    When an actual news item appears, there is not enough difference in the 4 channels to even imagine that they have different staffs.
    The practice of giving a 5 second blip regarding an actual story wherein they promise that it will be next, is usually followed by 2 long commercial breaks as you agonize through the mind rotting commercials. All 3 channels manage to present the same stories at the same time so if you are bored by one channel the others make certain that you have no interest in them.
    Fox appears to be inclined to make things a bit better then the rest of the tribe but I never watch an entire news broadcast no matter how much hype is used during the day to try to peddle their pablum.
    The Drudge report has enough links to allow you to sort what and where you would like to find your news stories and you do not need to be buried in advertising tripe.

  • On the other hand Riverdale, MD
    March 24, 2013 1:01 a.m.

    I get the impression that the Deseret News and KSL websites are increasingly used as platforms for the LDS Church to do search engine optimization, sometimes at the expense of good journalism. In the past several months there's been an uptick in mediocre content on the Deseret News website, including "lists" of trivia whose one-page-per-item format is just plain annoying, and articles whose primary sources are Internet videos or other websites. What these features lack in journalistic rigor they often make up for with well-placed, well-phrased URLs. Now, I certainly want the Church and its allies to fare well in relevant search engine results, but if the price of good search rankings is second-rate news content, the Deseret News's credibility is in jeopardy.

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    March 23, 2013 11:27 p.m.

    I rarely catch the news anymore. I get it all online. KSL rules the local news websites. I can't even stand to look at the trib solely for the bashing that goes on in their comment board. If they had NO comments they would probably get more views.

    In fact I am finding less and less of a reason to even have a tv.

  • Thinkman Provo, UT
    March 23, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    Has been over 5 years since I saw more than 5 minutes of a local newscast. Haven't missed it a bit.