I like Millsap. He should be playing the 3 though (with his "guard
skills") so Favors can play more. Marvin is terrible.
@brahmabulli agree they are not the best...the only thing they have
right now is potential...it is up to them to reach it...and with their
potential...they could be better than the tandem of Marc Gasol and Zach
Randolph....so given 30-35 minutes...they might drastically improve in a few
ok first of all...@Dustin sir you are in denial...you can replace Corbin with a
better coach...Brian Shaw could be better since he knows a winning
system...i'd take alvin gentry, nate mcmillan, Stan "Ron Jeremy"
Van Gundy...over Corbin...Tyrone Corbin is the Greg Ostertag of Coaching...Big
Al should go...Paul Millsap should go...Mo Williams...the only keepers...for
me...would be...Carrol Hayward burks Favors Kanter and Foye...Foye would be
better off as a bench player...i would knock Lindsey off just yet...he might
have a few players in mind this offseason...to be honest i am sick of Corbin and
his one dimensional way of coaching...the guy clearly has no system...
At the start of the year, and on paper you would have thought the Lakers had the
best front court with D Howard, P Gasol, and Metta World ( or whatever he's
calling himself these days). Than you add a back court of Nash and Bryant and
would think they would be contending for a championship instead of just the 8th
seed for the playoffs.
If Kanter and Favors are the best frontcourt in the NBA then I am the messiah.
No, not even at 35 plus minutes a game would it even be close. Not even close.
They are decent, but the best frontcourt in the league? Get real.
ok NY are under manned & playing their 5th road game after getting beaten
badly in the 1st four games. The Jazz have just won a "statement" game
(their words not mine) against the Grizz by actually playing some defense
!!!!so what happens ? they have no Chandler so what do we do ?
attack the paint I hear you cry ? Nope... we jack up jump shots all night.....
Surely we defend the three shot right ? NY like to shoot the trey.... Nope....
hit that corner trey all you want NY, pls, feel free.....There is
talent on this team but for the 1st time I have to look at the coaches....worst defeat of the season for me, by far..... :-(
I think it is too early to judge Lindsey's work. He has taken a cautious
approach this year, but a lot rides on what he does from now on, beginning with
who we take with our two first round picks. Will the Jazz fire
Corbin with a year left on his contract? This is new territory for
the Jazz and would indicate a committed coherency from ownership and management
we have not seen in the post-Sloan era, but you would be hard pressed to find a
worse coach in the league right now than Corbin, who has drawn criticism from
commentators all over the league. The Bobcats suck, but Mike Dunlap has been
praised for his 'back to the basics' approach to teaching the game,
ditto Wittman in Washington. This is what we need.I doubt the Jazz
resign either Jefferson or Millsap, particularly as Millsap will have suitors
and Jefferson, as a nice a person as he seems, is a cancer in terms of team play
on both ends of the court.Al Horford has similar stats to Jefferson.
But would anyone seriously consider taking Jefferson over Horford? Not a chance,
not even close.
Doug C...and if they have the coaching they need I tend to agree with you.
Without a first rate coach most teams flounder don't they. this is the
trouble in Jazztowne.
Another "rebuilding year".The slate needs to be wiped clean
but that will only work if a coachingphilosophy change happens.I have no respect for Corbin. I need only point you to his go-to guy Earl
Watson.We are all wasting our breath/keyboards I am afraid however.
Greg Miller (aka used car salesman) only cares about providing a safe, steady,
mediocre, profit-generating team. As long as people line up to pay for cheap
seats and overpriced concessions, nothing will change.
I am guessing at this point the Jazz are just finishing out the year until they
can remove Ty and start fresh. However, I would argue that they need to make the
move so that the new coaching staff can determine how they want to progress (ie
which players to keep and which to jettison). I think the most telling comment
came from Ty before the trade deadline where he stood up for the team as it was
saying he wanted to keep the team as it is together. Since then his team
as it currently exists has thrown him under the bus with their lack of effort.
Good job Jazz!
Where are all the Corbin apologists? If anyone is still defending Corbin they
simply are not watching the games or are in denial. This was a bad New York team
without their three best players. An above poster asked if we could
realistically get a better coach. I think the better question is can we get
somebody to do worse? These guys rarely give a full effort, or do what he says.
Time for a new coach or a different approach. Time for a coach that doesn't
constantly pamper his players, but demands something out of them rather than
accepting poor play.
@swaterbucks,You have a good point, I stand corrected. I would like to see
one of the Van Gundy boys (mabye both) coaching the Jazz. Avery - I'm not
sure about. I like him but I don't know if he can coach. Mike Brown -
thumbs down.But good ideas!
I too was at the game last night. The face value of my ticket read $800. I was
on the second row directly across the court from the Jazz bench.What
I am most thankful for is the fact I didn't pay for those tickets. My
second observation is that there is nobody on the planet who logically could
believe that the effort/coaching was worth $8 let alone $800.Another
observation is that Ty hardly coaches during the game and when he does it is
with poor results. Time after time we looked over at the NY bench and the
players were huddled around their coaching staff until the whistle blew. Look
at our bench and you literally watched our coaches sitting together on the bench
and our players, all 5 of them, leaning against the scorers table. Over and
over and over.The contrast could not be more stark.
Coaching/encouraging/demanding vs. well, nothing. Even when Corbin did call a
timeout it a lousy play call. I screamed it was a lousy play call once and he
and then Ty and his tax-evading buddy looked straight back across at me.Pathetic.Call Jerry Sloan now.
Lottery pick for this year. What a waste of season. We should have traded both
al and milsap. We need to get a pure point guard this summer. please don't
re-sign al and milsap. kanter and favors MUST start next year. They have to have
30+ min. They will be the best frontcourt in NBA.... if they play 30+ min.
Stan Van Gundy, Avery Johnson (might won't to prove a point in Utah, Deron
Williams thing), Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Brown are just a few out of work top
NBA coaches who the Jazz could hired...... plus the obvious Phil Jackson and
Jerry Sloan ! But Ty is a lot cheaper at 1-1.5 million a year ...
you get what you pay for.... Greg Miller could use some of his player money on a
coach and the Jazz would be a lot better team, even help with the salary cap LOL
I'm not ready to dump Corbin yet. It's his first full season as a head
coach. Is there anyone available that could do a better job? I doubt you'd
get Phil Jackson to Utah. They don't have a serviceable point guard that
can lead them in the final 2 minutes. They self destruct when the defensive
pressure increases. That indicates no confidence in the PG's ability to
manage the game. JR Smith KNOWs that he is tougher than the whole Jazz team.
I have defended Corbin quite a bit this season. I think he is a decent coach,
and I think we will have a tough time replacing him with someone better.
However, the players don't seem to respect him, and they are not playing
like a team. I am not sure why Carrol was not played last night. Hayward was
the only starter who was giving any energy. As for Dennis Lindsey, I think he
has a plan, and that plan involves letting some free agents go, and building
through the draft. We can't really judge Lindsey until we have seen what
he can do in the off season. I hate the whole "fire Corbin" campaign
because nobody seems to have any plan beyond that. I am in favor of getting rid
of Corbin if there is a qualified candidate who can take his place. We are also
in desperate need of a PG. Mo can stay, but he needs to be a shooting guard, or
a 6th man. I don't know if we are always better with the young guys on the
floor, but we are a lot more fun to watch.
Ty Corbin was WIRED for sound on the ESPN broadcast last night.... Ty's
first instruction to the players was "stay between your man and the
basket"....... his second wired advice was "we need to be aggressive on
both ends"Those are 2 pearls of wisdom during a timeout.....
That is exactly what I tell my Junior Jazz team..... I realized last night
I'm qualified to coach in the NBA..... Now where is my application? and
how do I get Greg Miller's email to send it to?
But Mo sure has some Ugly tattoos, don't they count?
Surprisingly, Marvin Williams has been playing well while Jefferson and Millsap
are making key mistakes in the fourth quarter. Every time that Favors and Kanter
play, they beg for more playing time and keep the bit in their mouth. Once the
three game trip to Texas is over, the smoke will clear. We'll be able to
see "Russia from our front porch".
If Ty Corbin, Al Jefferson and Mo Williams are still here at the start of next
season, then this once proud franchize is toast.
Surely Larry Miller is turning over in his grave.What a disaster the
Jazz have become.
Why is that the organization sees things so differently than we, the fans see
things? Somebody is seeing things wrong and I don't think the record
supports the organizations view. I wounder if this is "just one loss"
again. I see it as another in a long string of humiliating losses.
Adios Utah Jazz, I have stayed with you longer than I should have. Tickets are
to expensive to be bored at games, being beat by bad teams and having the big
name players staying home rather than playing us. We have gone down hill since
the Karl,John & Larry era.
I've been complaining about Corbin even before it's become
fashionable. My frustration now is shifting more and more to Greg Miller.
It's bad when your coach is in the dark but it's even worse when the
owner/management are just as bad. Larry Miller would not put up with this mess.
When he saw no effort from the team he was in the locker room demanding more
from the players and coach. I doubt Greg Miller knows where the locker room is.
I live out of town but I would love to see Jazz fans wear brown
paper sacks over their heads at home games like the New Orleans Saints fans did
way back when they referred to them as the New Orleans Aints. Maybe then
management would see that fans are embarrassed with whats going on here.
Lindsey and Corbin should both be fired this morning and quite possible KOC. The
front office is a complete joke. Jerry are you listening??
Has anybody else watched any of the previous 4 games New York has played and
lost by double digits? They are TERRIBLE. They get absolutely smashed by
everybody.... except the jazz. They are missing their 3 best players, we have a
full squad. It is disheartening to see the jazz play with not attitude, no
passion, no urgency. I am glad I chose to not accept 2 free tickets last night
to the game. It would have been a waste of time on players who don't care
to give the effort. Earl Watson must go. He is horrible, and so is Marvin
Williams. Not worth it.
The Jazz won a lottery pick last night. I hope they use it to get a point guard
and replacements for Jefferson/Milsap.
Pathetic. Throw in the towel. Play Burks, Hayward, Carroll, Kanter, and Favors
The person who wrote the headline stole the word I was gonna use: Pathetic.
Okay, I'll be the first to say it. Mo Williams is playing how HE wants to
play and he isn't enough of a ballplayer to take over at end of games. The
Jazz have steadily played worse and worse since he's returned to the
lineup. I think that the avoiding of what the coach wants starts with the point
guard position and Mo Williams has these guys totally out of sync.
What is that vacuum type noise coming from ESA? It's the sound of early
vacations for the Jazz. I attended tonight's game and left
with a minute to play when the Jazz were down by 5 and NY had the ball. Up by
two at the half, the Jazz went to sleep in the third quarter (again). Favors
went 4 - 10 from the free throw line. That won't win any ball games, even
in junior high school. How much are we paying these guys that can't hit a
pair of free throws, anyway? And Jefferson couldn't throw the ball into
the ocean if he was standing on the beach. Don't even get me
started on defense.That's my one-and-done game for the Jazz
this season. The promotional hot dog was better than the game. I can
understand why attendance was/is low.
We need a real coach not TY. The players openly disrespected Corbin on National
TV by not doing anything he called for. It is time to get someone who can
control his players. Al doesn't play defense and Mo only plays for himself.