A Utah first: Senate committee endorses statewide non-discrimination law

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  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    March 8, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    This is amazing. I know it isn't law yet, but I also know this took a lot of courage to back such a bill. I'm glad to see it.

  • isrred South Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2013 2:34 p.m.


    No. The bill does not apply to small businesses with less than 15 employees, property owners with 4 or fewer rental units, student housing units, or religious entities and their businesses.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    March 8, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    For those of us that lived in Germany and have been to the POW camps, that is part of the cleansing that Hitler. In the 1970s it was hard to find where those old camps were. The smell was not the best and the flower bouquets were all around. It was not just the Jewish people that were extricated to those facilities by train at night.

    Our country has been and still is known as a haven for good people. Unfortunately, there are people that want to make our country change it's freedoms for people in the guise of doing the right thing for some, not all.

    Jesus didn't say love those you think may be good. It may be hard. He did say to love everyone, treat them kind and with a caring attitude. An errant child would not get very far in life if we shunned them because it made us look bad. We have to do the right thing and not be a Pharisee of old living today. Principles should be upheld along with the correct teachings from our parents and teachers a leaders.

    This world gives an opportunity to make choices, right and not.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    I have a couple of question:

    If I have a basement apartment in my home will I be forced to rent to a gay couple who responds to my classified ad even if I believe that homosexual sex is sinful conduct that I don't want to condone in any way?

    If I decide not to rent my basement apartment because I don't want my family or myself exposed to openly gay behavior will I be subjected to a lawsuit?

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    March 8, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    Kaysville, UT

    I heard the lady from the Eagle Forum put these people into one category.



    Everytime I heard the words "Eagle Forum", I can't help but think of the 3rd Reich symbol of the Bundesadler "Federal Eagle", or Reichsadler "Imperial Eagle" grasping a wreath of oak leaves containing a swastika.

  • Danish American Payson, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    While it may be immoral is shouldn't be illegal. The rights of personal property are some of the oldest recognized rights under the Constitution. While I personally would not deny someone the use of my property for being GLBT if they fit the other requirements, the law should not force me to do something with my property I don't want to do. The same goes for business. Put up your money and do what you want. Yes, I also believe the 1965 Civil Rights act is unconstitutional, too. I have never discriminated against anyone of another race because it is immoral and unjust, however, forcing people to do so through the law is also immoral and unjust.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    March 8, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    Oh, Gayle,.....how sad.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Mero: "It penalizes everyone. This isn't a gay rights (bill). It is a special rights bill."
    SegoLilly: "I agree it's 'special rights'."

    I get so tired of the "special rights" trope. It is completely bogus. The city ordinances and the proposed state law prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. These are characteristics that everyone has. The laws do not afford GLBT people any special protections that straight and cisgendered people do not also share. A law saying an employer must hire or can't fire homosexuals would be wrong. A law saying employers cannot use sexual orientation as a criterion for hiring or firing is fine. It is fair and equitable and does not favor any one class of people over another.

    I understand why people think the laws create "special rights." That is because of the tremendous assymmetry in employment and housing discrimination with respect to sexual orientation and gender identity. The vast majority of discrimination is directed against GLBT people, so they stand to benefit more from the nondiscrimination laws. However, all the laws do is bring them up to the same level as the rest of society.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    This is a good start for both the Republicans and Democrats to get a law, eventually, that will be fair and equitable. It is a shame for people to put all one category of humans into one box. There is no one common reason or rationale for how people behave and act. If that was true, we would not need psychologists, psychiatrists, medical doctors, therapists, religious people and God to help us through our lives.

    I heard the lady from the Eagle Forum put these people into one category. I don't believe she is a believer that we should be a kinder and gentler society. That doesn't mean we give up our principles and teachings, it just means we need to show kindness to all people.

    There are people that take advantage of our governmental rules and regulations. However, that is why we have an ever changing leadership and members of all forms of government in the United States.

    People need to be treated like God wants us to treat all people. We have a gift within all of us to love our children. It is hard for some to love all people as their own. God does.

  • Lane Myer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    Sego Lilly,

    There already is a non-discrimination law about those over 40. You are way behind the times. Age discrimination has been the law for years.

    Why do you believe that it is "special rights?" Could you give us some reasons? Examples?

    You do realize that it covers heterosexuals too, don't you? Any gay company owner or landlord cannot discriminate against those who are not gay also.

    Please let me understand your reasoning...

  • Sego Lilly Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 1:11 a.m.

    I agree it's "special rights". Now lets pass anti-discrimination right for employment for those who are over 40. Let's also make it so that persons under 30 with less then 10 years manager experience from interviewing the people over 40. These kids are just looking for people who will become their friend both in and out of the work enviroment.