BYU opens spring ball with new, up-tempo offense

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  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    March 6, 2013 4:47 p.m.

    Navel, Chris, and all the other Ute fans. Here is what myself, and all the other BYU fans on this site wonder. If the PAC12 is so great, and your team is so great, and BYU is so beneath you, and you all have moved on to greener pastures, then why come on to BYU articles, on a BYU leaning newspapers site, and spew your hatred. I read Utah articles, and I fail to see the need to comment on them. There are also several Ute fans who are gracious to BYU on our articles. We welcome them and their comments. But if you truly hate BYU and all that it stands for, save yourself, and us, time by not posting. I would not have to waste time skipping over your awesome posts, and your blood pressure will go down.

    If the Utes have moved on, and are out of our league, then by all means, move on. Move on completely. If however you are a fan of Utah sports in general, then by all means, keep posting. Like I say when I post, Go UTAH, Go BYU, unless Utah is playing BYU, then GO BYU.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    March 6, 2013 3:29 p.m.

    To Naval Vet:
    Look back over all the comments on BYU sports articles. It's ALWAYS the troll Ute fans who bring up the PAC 10.2 issue. It's never BYU fans. They only respond. Seriously, why would anyone with any personal pride at all brag about being in whatever conference, if all they do year-in and year-out is fight to stay out of it's basement? Sadly, that's all the U has done since joining the PAC 10.2. You would be better off being competitive in the Big Sky conference than being a cellar-dweller in a competitive conference.
    It's much, much better being an independent who plays on an ESPN national stage almost every week, plus going to and winning bowl games 4 years in a row, than being in a big conference where you get embarrassed almost every time you play on regional tv and can no longer qualify for any bowl game. It's no wonder your sense of what seems to be "funny stuff" is a bit warped. What really seems funny stuff is having a cellar dweller fan speak as a representative of what his conference does or doesn't want.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 6, 2013 10:52 a.m.


    "The bottom line is, the PAC 12 doesn't want BYU and BYU doesn't want the PAC 12. Why do you keep beating this dead horse."

    Correction: The bottom line is, the PAC 12 doesn't want BYU. Period. All that "BYU doesn't want the PAC 12" nonsense is just sour grapes over being "Fully Rejected" by their 1st choice of conferences, so give it up. Everybody already knows. Why do you Indy-WACers keep beating this dead horse.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 6, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    IRS Agent:

    "@ Chris B...Do you work for the Pac 12 now?"

    I don't think he does, but his 2 points were valid. I agree with him that (1) the Pac-12 would never call the Indy-WACers respecting potential membership, and (2) that Holmoe never prefer independent mid-majoreyness to Pac-12 (or Big 12 for that matter) membership.

    Which part(s) of his point did you disagree with? That the Pac-12 won't call Holmoe? Or that Holmoe would decline an invitation?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 6, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    Danish American:

    "People who are always critical of something is because of one or two things. Number 1: They are jealous. Number 2: They are actually in love with the thing they are so critical of."

    Your forgetting about the possibility of Number 3. That's where we love rattling your cage and watching you all go nuts. Very fun/funny stuff.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    March 5, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    Chris B: If the Pac 12 offerred BYU, if would be based on BYU agreeing to Sunday play, no BYUtv, and whatever else BYU would never agree to. The bottom line is, the PAC 12 doesn't want BYU and BYU doesn't want the PAC 12. Why do you keep beating this dead horse. Get over it, BYU is very happy, and also our fans all over the world, to be an independent. We are free to make our own decisions and are not dictated to by a conference. If we ever do ACCEPT conference alignment, it will be on our terms or it will not happen. Bottom line.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    March 5, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    Cal Cougar: It only favors BYU if they can extend the downs, rather than go 3 and out. Otherwise, the opposing D doesn't stay on the field as long. If BYU uses the up-tempo and the opposing team does not, BYU's defense will be on the field longer, unless it can extend the plays - meaning GET FIRST DOWNS! I hope they can get more first downs than all of their opponents - if so they will win most of those games. Go BYU!

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    March 5, 2013 7:59 p.m.

    @ Down under

    You still feeling jealous about our Pac-12 membership? Dude, it's been almost 3 years since Utah got invited. Get over it!

    BYU would do the same thing if they got invited to join a prestigious conference. But that will never happen.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2013 5:49 p.m.

    Just got back from a trip to California and I didnt see one Pac12 sticker anywhere.....except a 1960's travel trailer with a Utah License plate broke down on the freeway outside Baker.....Go Utes!

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    March 5, 2013 3:40 p.m.

    SPOT ON. I live in the middle of PAC 10.2 country and noone else touts their membership as much as Crissy; - Little or no PAC 12 bumper stickers, no banners, no window clings. They just focus on winning. Since Utah can't do that they must thump their chests on their membership in the conference. Let me tell you this; Utah's name is very seldom mentioned around the water cooler or in discussions about who's who in the conference.

  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    March 5, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    Chris B,

    "Are you serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12 called Holmoe(we won't) and offered a spot, Holmoe would say "no thanks, we're have way too much fun losing to utah, boise, texas, Notre Dame, and Oregon State" on ESPN?"

    We Won't? Seriously? Did you just say WE? As in, you are in the PAC12 making that call with the other School admins? Really? Dude, I know you love BYU and need to comment on our boards first usually, but dude, reality check. You are not in the PAC12. You are not making the decisions for the Utes or the PAC12. The schools and the admins are. BYU doesn't hate you, even though you think you hate them. It's all good man. If the PAC12 invited BYU, they might go, if Sunday play is off the table. Same as the Big12. Those are the only 2 leagues BYU would join. Are BYU fans ok with Independence? Sure, if we get a great schedule every year. This year is a great year.

    Have a great day, and unless they play each other, BO BYU and UTAH. If they play each other, GO BYU!

  • Davis Kaysville, UT
    March 5, 2013 2:53 p.m.

    chris b you actually think the Yewts will beat Byu. Dreamland Chris b. And as goo.g to the pack 12 would get you a better chance at a national title not. With the pkayoff system coming your out of luck Kris b

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 5, 2013 2:50 p.m.

    @ Chris B. I believe BYU has a totally unique mission compared with any secular university. It's athletic programs likewise. Not to disparage the Pac 12 or any other conference but belonging to a conference isn't needed for BYU to fulfill its purpose which is related to the LDS church's mission! BYU seeks exposure and yes winning games helps with its exposure as much as it helps with at least some parts of the overall mission of the LDS church which is missionary work and building up the church worldwide. Along with worldwide exposure BYU is uniquely capable of educating in a unique way, hence the honor code and strict admission standards, mandatory religion classes, etc.. Agree with it or not, BYU is unique in the world of higher education institutions. In other words, especially at BYU, athletics are a means to a higher end and not the end itself. The cynic may say its all about money but THE mission of BYU is to prefect (educate the saints) and spread the gospel all over the world. And being on national TV every game is quite effective!

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    March 5, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    @ Chris B (obsessing over all things BYU since 1995)

    "Are you serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12 called Holmoe(we won't)..."

    Do you work for the Pac 12 now? Congrats on the promotion. I know you are giddy with "your" PAC12 success. We love your BCS membership. Now that you have dominated the Southern Division, it's onward and upward to the Rose Bowl. There's no stopping you now - mark it down!

    I can't wait to see which post season basketball tournament you get invited to. I will be cheering on the Runnin' Utes (or is it the Runnin'-out-of-excuses Utes)?

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 5, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    Chris B you should maybe worry about your own team having a winning year before you worry about how BYU will perform. The utes were just as pathetic last year, 5-7 no bowl game remember? Yes you are in the PAC 12 congrats we have seen your window stickers all over your cars, which in my opinion is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. You don't see other pac 12 teams have pac 12 logo's. they have thier team logo's. you guys are more giddy about being in the PAC 12 than winning any games. The utes have been abismal in that league you can barely beat colorado and the year before you helped break their streak of 12000 straight road losses. congrats! go troll somewhere else. losing record again this year buddy. mark it down!

  • Danish American Payson, UT
    March 5, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Mark this down: People who are always critical of something is because of one or two things. Number 1: They are jealous. Number 2: They are actually in love with the thing they are so critical of. I'm actually hoping that the U does better in both football and basketball so Chris B isn't so worried and infatuated with BYU. Also remember the old Indian saying: The empty wagon rattles loudest.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2013 12:42 p.m.


    Are you serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12 called Holmoe(we won't) and offered a spot, Holmoe would say "no thanks, we're have way too much fun losing to utah, boise, texas, Notre Dame, and Oregon State" on ESPN?


  • Spider Rico Greeley, CO
    March 5, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    I'm back to drinking the kool-aid. I didn't jump off the BYU train last year, but I was admittedly worried about the state of the offense. I am not any more. There will be some growing pains in putting the offense in place, but it will click pretty quick imo. Simpler plays at a higher pace equals lots of success for the Cougs. Mark it down!!

    March 5, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    "I know his personality pretty well. I know one moment he can be pretty laid back and calm, then flip a switch and be pretty fiery," Munns said of Anae. "But that's what we need. You need that fire and someone who's going to call you out and make sure you're doing your best. I'm excited to have him back."

    Bring the fire! Go Cougs!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    March 5, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    To complainers about Coach Mendenhall, I recall that Lavell Edwards was first and foremost a defensive guy (DC before HC). He was also recognized by everyone as a hands-off coach. He brought in good talent as his assistants and gave them free rein.

    Hold off judgment on the coaching until we see the fruits in the fall.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 5, 2013 11:19 a.m.

    Being on national T.V. EVERY game is better than being in the Pac 12, win or lose!

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    March 5, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    Since 2010, we’ve gone 7-6, 10-3 & 8-5 against less than a stellar schedule. Last season was a formidable schedule and this season will be even stronger. I just don’t see the football program advancing to the level it should, and the head-coach has to take full responsibility. I don’t see a lot of personal responsibility by Coach Bronco. He’s totally hands-off the offense. He’s one of the best DC’s in the country, but that’s not what our team needs. Remember Cougs, Holmoe talks all about BCS-respectability. 2010-2012 isn’t getting us there. BCS-respectability means advancing the program beyond merely "we all now how unique BYU is and how the program is preparing the athletes beyond "just" football." I love the school. My kids have attended and graduated from there. Let's ratchet up the football program. I hope Anae, et. al, is the anwer on offense. Perhaps he's the next "coach in waiting."

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 5, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    BYU against defenses ranked below #50 in 2012: 44 PPG, 6-0 record.
    BYU against defenses ranked above #50 in 2012: 14 PPG, 1-5 record.

    In other words, BYU's offense is only good when it's facing a bad defense.

    Seems to me that rather than trying to fix a broken offense, it would be easier to just line up a bunch of bad defenses. The good news is it looks like that's exactly what Bronco is trying to do.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    March 5, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    Interesting choice of words by the head-coach: "Said Mendenhall: "It's probably the hardest our collective team has worked since I've been the coach. The demand was really high. It was a typical first day in terms of lack of execution. That tempo, with that demand, with a new system, the offense certainly has a long ways to go in terms of execution, but it's the hardest they've tried since I can remember."

    So, it's the hardest the collective team has played since he's taken over the team. Why did it take him entering his 9th year as head coach to get to this point? Also, he refers to the offense as "they"?

    I didn't read one "we" in the article. I go back to the point that the Cougs need a stronger, more dynamic "head-coach."

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    March 5, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Fast offense, means more plays for both defenses. That favors BYU with the quality of the defense. It also is a more entertaining brand of football. That favors BYU with their contracts with ESPN.

    Anae will give us at least a decent offense. His experience and demeanor to steady the ship during tight spots in the fourth quarter, will be night and day from Doman. Mental mistakes in big games were epidemic during the Doman years. Doman in my opinion had some genious, but not the personality to coach. He was too nervous. That played out in the unsteady nature of the plays during tight spots in the game. Hence, our local detractor's comments which often contains elements of the truth although one sided and caustic.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 5, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Chris B - Why do U point out that BYU was .200 against ranked teams when Utah was 0% against ranked teams? Yes, 0%. At least find a stat that makes U look good.

    There is no argument from BYU fans that the offense was pathetic last year, that's why we brought in a whole new O coaching staff. I'm excited Anae is bringing in an up-tempo style and not just the same old scheme he ran in 2010 and before. This means he is trying to be innovative.

    In the 70's, BYU was one of only a few schools to implement a passing attack that changed college football. Today there are only a couple of schools that effectively run an up-tempo offense - Oregon does it best. Hopefully we can capitalize on it.

  • That's A Good One Meridian, ID
    March 5, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    I love the "mark it down". Historically, whenever she says that it's a real good indication that the opposite will happen.

    Should we "mark down" a 3rd consecutive year "bottom third to basement" reservation in the PAC for the mighty Utes while we're marking? How about marking down Kyle Whittingham's final year on the hill before being relieved of duties? Any chance of that happening?

    We could "mark down" the Runnin' (ha, now that's a good one) Ute's consecutive "bringing up the PAC rear" basketball finishes but then again there isn't any speculation to that conclusion.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    With bronco's .200 record against ranked teams this year, I wonder which one significant game byu will win this year?

    Utah - nope, Utah seniors will get the 4-0 embarassing sweep
    Boise - unlikely
    Wisconsin - Gary Anderson will roll byu
    Texas - Texas all day
    Notre Dame - I know wheere my money is

    Between Georgia Tech, Nevada, Virginia, Houston, and Utah State you'll probably go 2-3 or 3-2.

    0% chance byu wins more than 2 of the "significant" '5 games mentions above, and most likely you'll go 1-4. And if the past several years are any indication(and they usually are, it won't be the Utah game you'll win).

    Mark it down.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 5, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    We should be totally up tempo this year. Lot of excitement and points too.

  • PA Rock Man Allentown, PA
    March 5, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    We won't know how good these guys are until the Texas game.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    March 5, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    Mildred, You are on the wrong post. That's the comment for the Utes, sweetie!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2013 11:00 p.m.

    With our new offense, we should average about 35 points per game.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 4, 2013 10:08 p.m.

    Almost anything would look fast compared to Heaps steady delay-of-game penalties and slow snap count and Riley's time looking over the defense to decide where he was going to run with it. I'm looking forward to seeing about 30% more offensive plays a game. Too bad last year they wasted the best defense in the history of the school. Even an average offense last year would have been rewarding compared with what was on the field.

    In a positive light, this year should be better.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    March 4, 2013 9:59 p.m.

    It's great to once again experience the excitement of Spring camp. Here's hoping for no injuries and a fast transition with the new coaches and offense.

    Go Cougars!