High number of trooper crashes concern spouses, but safety depends on motorists
All UHP needs to do is get out on the I-15 corridor during early rush hour when
there is still room on the roads to race around. I drive on I-15 to downtown
regularly and am stunned at the aggressive, weaving in-and-out, crossing the
double-white HOV lane lines, often at 80+ miles per hour, some while on the
phone - in reasonably heavy traffic. Start writing tickets UHP. I too am sick
of all the accidents that are hurting innocent drivers, our officers, and by
extension, all of their families. It is costing us time on clogged freeways
(after one of these aggressive drivers crashes or causes someone else to crash),
money (in higher insurance premiums), and lives.I see cars doing
this almost EVERY day. These drivers feel immune from the consequences of their
their driver licenses should be taken away. PERMANENTLY
Officers' spouses are concerned about their husbands being hit. What they
should be more concerned about it the attitude of many Utahns on the issue...see
many of the comments above where the victim (the UHP trooper) is blamed. Do you
people also blame murder victims for being murdered?
Until you have worn the uniform, walked in his shoes and have the training our
officers have, you don't have a leg to stand on. They take more guff from
drivers that are drunk, beligerant, drugged up or down right disrespectful and
they deserve our appreciation, trust and respect. These men and women are not
perfect, and we are not either so there will be errors in judgement and I for
one is just grateful they still want to be officers of the law and take all the
crap they get for trying to protect us. My hat goes off to our police
officers...it is not an easy or rewarding position to be many times. We love our
policemen, our military and our firemen. They do absolutely more good that harm.
I can understand the frustration on from officers since there are only 2 options
available when passing an office who has his lights on, on the side of a
road.A) - Change lanes - so there is a full lane of space between you and
the officer, OrB) if that isn't possible - slow 15 mph under
the posted limit to pass. The last time I ran into this, there was
no way for me to safely change lanes - traffic was much to heavy - only the
problem was that the Officer had not actually pulled out of the traffic lane.
He left his car with the back end sticking into traffic. I couldn't pass,
and I couldn't change lanes, there wasn't enough room. Instead? the
officer started yelling at me for stopping. Honestly? if I had tried to go
around, I'd have hit him. No way to avoid it. So, maybe- in
addition to drivers watching for them a bit more, Officers could make sure they
themselves are not causing a traffic hazard.
I used to be impatient to get to my destination, not because my boss cared
whether I came in a bit late (he didn't; I would just work later), but
because I was bored silly driving.Then I discovered audiobooks (free
from the library), and now when I see a pedestrian sign far ahead change from
blue to flashing red, I no longer step on the gas to get through the light
before it changes. Instead I think, "Excellent, another red light. I might
be able to finish this chapter before I get to work/home."I
haven't gotten a speeding ticket since.
At the end of the article, for those of you who clearly did not read that far,
it says what each officer was doing at the time he was hit. 15 of the 16 were
at the scene of accidents. Should we seriously tell them to stop assisting
accident victims?I was taught in Drivers' Ed that you move over
a lane if it is possible to do so safely if there is a vehicle on the shoulder.
How hard is it to move over and to allow other drivers to do so?
Maybe if we employed police officers to protect the public against criminals
rather than as another form of tax collector, they wouldn't be getting hit.
I've either been, or know people who have been victims of hit-and-run
accidents, burglary, vandalism, assault, and other crimes where the police show
up, do absolutely nothing, and leave, even when witnesses knew who the
perpetrator was. Maybe if the police worried more about real crimes that have
actually happened instead of preying on law-abiding citizens for revenue, they
wouldn't get hit as much.
Mugabe. You are joking right. You can't be serious. There is not a
court in this country that would uphold your view. Driving is a privilege
granted by the state to those who can qualify for a drivers license. The so
called right to locomotion can be the right to walk or buy a bus ticket, not
drive 80 mph on a residential street. Public safety is a legitmate function of
state government and that includes our roads and highways. For those of you
who blame our outstanding troopers for the reckless actions of others I have one
thing to say. Get a life. Utah drivers are out of control. Addicted to speed,
texting and driving, rude, and arogant. I wish the state would hire more
troopers and do what Wisconsin did. Drastically increase the fines for speeding
and other traffic violations. Make breaking the law really hurt.
Continued:Traveling in an automobile on the public roads was not a
threat to the public safety or healthand constituted no hazard to the
public, and such a traveler owed nothing more than “duecare”
(as regards to tort for negligence) to the public and the owner owed no other
duty to thepublic (eg. State), he / she and his / her auto, having equal
rights to and on the roadways / highways as horses and wagons, etc.; this same
right is still substantive rule, in that speeding, running stop signs, traveling
without license plates, or registration are not threats to the public safety,
and thus, are not arrestable offenses. Christy v. Elliot, 216 I 131, 74 HE 1035,
LRA NS 1905 – 1910: California v. Farley 98 CED Rpt. 89, 20 CA 3d 1032
(1971).Under The United States Republic’s Constitutional
system of Government and upon the individuality and intelligence of the citizen,
the state does not claim to control one’s conduct to others, leaving one
the sole judge as to all that affects oneself. Mugler v. Kansas 123 US 623, 659
I can sympathize with people getting ran over by another driver, even if they
are not State Troopers. The "Brass," should put more emphasis on
educating their subordinates by telling them to stop pulling motorist over for
things that does not constitute a crime. Looking suspicious is not a crime. An
expired plate is not a crime, and therefore, should not be treated as such.
Policemen and Women, put themselves in danger by over stepping their bounds and
in most cases violating Constitutional rights. The courts have ruled:The Right to Travel; The Right to Mode of Conveyance; The Right to
Locomotionare all absolute rights, and the Police can not make void the
exercise of rights.State v. Armstead, 60 s. 778, 779, and 781:State Police Power extends only to immediate threats to public safety, health,
welfare, etc., Michigan v.Duke 266 US, 476 Led. At 449: which driving and
speeding are not. California v. Farley Ced. Rpt. 89, 20 CA3d 1032 (1971):For a crime to exist, there must be an injured party (Corpus Delicti)
There can be no sanction orpenalty imposed on one because of this
Constitutional right. Sherer v. Cullen 481 F. 945:
Texas put a law into effect a couple of years ago requiring motorists on
multiple lane highways to move to over a lane and reduce speed by ten mph when a
police officer has a a car stopped and their emergency lights activated. The law
seems to be working here.
Just last week a cop in an unmarked vehicle in front of the neighbor's
house pulled some people over and had his vehicle parked half way in the street
on a busy street no less. I told the individual in politeness to please move the
vehicle as people drive fast on this road. He pulled out a badge and said he was
arresting people. Apparently, if you are a cop that entitles you to break the
law and not park correctly. Time and time again I have seen police turn on their
sirens just so they could drive faster and not pursue anything. Maybe it's
time the cop's start obeying the law and lose their ego.
You should always get out of the far lane if there is a cop pulled over. Get
off your cell phones and pay attention. I am from Utah and after living in
other places it is easy to say that Utah drivers are the worst. Pay attention
to others just not yourself.
How many troopers were hit per year when the speed limit was 55 mph?
Aren't these peoples lives worth slowing down?