BYU basketball: Cougars outlast Loyola Marymount, 73-70

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    March 4, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    And as for "BYU's style of ball is exciting and wins most of the time. Utah's style of ball is ugly and loses most of the time," that's all a matter of opinion with some of your own personal bias thrown in. I would almost never turn on a game to watch a decent team blow out a bad team just to see them score a lot of points. What does catch my attention, and what I consider "exciting," are close, high effort games by both teams that go down to the wire, like the majority of the games Utah has played this year.

    March 4, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Solomon Levi, "Who cares? "

    Apparently some fans who, without actually watching any of Utah's games or bothering to check stats, care enough to call them such, and thank you for finally acknowledging it with "when a team consistently has high foul numbers, it's more a product of the style of play."

    I personally couldn't care less how a coach directs his team to play, so I'm not "whining, posturing," or "spinning". I think Rose is a very good coach, especially when he has a good team to work with. This year his team just isn't that good, so when they play the high number of bad teams that they have this year, his system works and looks good, but when they play any good teams, his team looks bad. We'll have to see whether these recruits that everyone is slobbering over are any good at the next level and can help this team break out of the decent level into being good enough to beat good teams.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    March 4, 2013 1:48 p.m.


    "Which scenario sounds like the "hackfest"?"

    Who cares?

    "Hackfests" are mostly determined by how a particular set of officials decides to call the game. I've seen very physical games where hardly any fouls were called. And I've seen relatively normal games where officials called every ticky-tac foul.

    Of course, when a team consistently has high foul numbers, it's more a product of the style of play.

    Regardless of how the game is called or how high or low the opponent is ranked, winning is always better than losing.

    After all of your whining, posturing, spinning, and hyperbole, two inescapable facts remain:

    BYU is ranked #61 in RPI
    Utah is ranked #182 in RPI

    BYU's style of ball is exciting and wins most of the time.
    Utah's style of ball is ugly and loses most of the time.

    March 4, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    Solomon Levi, no what's funny is that you still won't answer the question: Which scenario sounds like the "hackfest"? The team that fouls 19 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 79 places below their own, or the team that fouls 15 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 94 places better than their own?

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    March 4, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    "24 fouls playing against RPI 253 team..."

    At least BYU WON!

    Compare that to Utah's

    17 fouls playing against RPI 286 team...

    in a home LOSS!

    Maybe U should have hacked Sacramento State more.

    It's laughable that jealous Utah trolls would constantly beat their SOS drum, while completely ignoring the more important ranking, their own team RPI ranking.

    #61 BYU
    #94 Weber State
    #96 Utah State
    #182 Utah

  • gharmons Helendale, CA
    March 3, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    The ESPNU announcing team is a disaster. Again last night, they spend much of their time talking about things other than the game right in ftront of them. It often is hard to know who committed a foul or other important aspects of the game they are covering.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    March 3, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    BYU has a good team...a very good team when Davies stays out of foul trouble.

    LMU has lost a bunch of games by 2 or 3 points, including a game to an Ole Miss team that has spent most of the season ranked in the top 25. To get another win on the road is an accomplishment for any team, because it is always hard to get road victories. Just ask the Utes...who only have two road victories all year.

  • OmahaCoug Omaha, NE
    March 3, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    LMU marks 7 consecutive games that BYU has been outscored in the second half. In those seven games, the least an opponent has scored in the second half is 34 points.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    March 3, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    I am glad Mr. Call states that BYU was "happy" with the win. As in recent games, I found myself watching bits and pieces of the game, which was enough to witness what has become common for this team: bonehead plays.

    The Cougs were being seriously in contention for the NCAAs until the loss at home against St. Mary's, which has had far reaching effects on the team.

    No other way to explain how they had to hold on to win against one of the weakest teams in one of the weakest conferences, in front of a half empty, large high school gym. Not to mention, that three of LMU's starters had fouled out by the end of the game.

    Mercifully, the season will be over soon.

  • ParkerCoug12 Parker, CO
    March 3, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    I hope Mika is a good as advertised. They really could use a good big man to replace Davies. I wonder how much a freshman can contribute in this role. Not an expert, but seems like they need some immediate JC help under the basket.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    March 3, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    Have you had that conversation with Mika and Coaches Rose/Pope?

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    March 3, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    Mica is a beast in most phases of the game but if he wants to start for BYU next year he needs to develop some inside moves and work on his jump shot hard during the off-season.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    March 3, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    1) Carlino had back spasms yesterday. He still played, but one would think that his sore back limited him and led to some of those turnovers. I'm going to give him a pass for yesterday. But it is true that he hasn't played well of late.

    2) Yes, that was an ugly game. Once again, I'm going to knock the officiating. It was awful. Yes, BYU committed some stupid fouls. But LMU should have had more than 3 people foul out. I don't mind good, physical basketball, but last night was not that; it was a hack-fest. LMU players were literally riding BYU players all night. Not just staying close, but grabbing them, jumping on them, etc. I distinctly remember one in-bounds play were an LMU player went up and shoved Haws before the ball was even ready to be thrown in. Things like that happened all night without any calls. It was disgusting to watch. But teams will continue to do that to BYU until the refs stop it or BYU handles it better.

    3) That "double technical" that Cusick was involved in? What a joke.

    4) Free throws. BYU made them this time and won.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    March 3, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    I can't figure out what is up with Carlino. There have been a few games this year when he has been sensational. And then there are games like last night. It is obvious Rose has him on a short leash now and it shows in his play. Part of the problem is Carlino is really a fast break/transition kind of guy, and when they are forced to run a half court offense the whole team looks out of place. It looks like they don't even have a court offense. Instead, it is Haws, Davies, or Carlino trying to create a shot for themselves which usually results in a turnover or bad shot.

    March 3, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    24 fouls playing against RPI 253 team, so I'll ask the question that nobody wanted to answer the other day again: Which scenario sounds like the "hackfest"? The team that fouls 19 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 79 places below their own, or the team that fouls 15 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 94 places better than their own?

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    March 3, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    After seeing Eric Mika play yesterday in the Lone Peak championship game, it was thrilling to realize that we will have such a talented and athletic center replacing Davies next year for BYU.

    Congratulation to BYU for a great season. Twenty-one wins is good in any program. Good luck and work hard at tournament next week!

    Go Cougars!

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    March 3, 2013 2:00 a.m.

    What an ugly game. BYU was lucky to win it. Between Davies, Zylstra, Austin and Carlino, BYU really stunk it up. Davies was awful against Gonzaga and not better tonight. Carlino had one of his worst games making numerous mental errors and turning the ball over numerous times. If Haws was not on this team they'd have a losing record this year. Haws is the only guy who can shoot the basketball. Davies can't score beyond 5 feet, Zylstra is awful and Carlino has become a lousy shooter. Ok, I've had my rant, but I can't wait for Mika to suit up for BYU and for Davies and Zylstra to be gone. I give Kaufusi credit for his effort, but he should stick to football, he is no basketball player. Yes, Kaufusi shot an airball on a freethrow, but so did Davies, who is supposed to be a basketball player. When a team has so many players who can't shoot, it's tough to win. BYU will be lucky to win any games in the WCC tourney.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 3, 2013 1:22 a.m.

    Carlino is a puzzle... He makes things happen but often times they are as bad as they are good... He shoots well, but is far too careless with the ball... He had 9 TOs tonight against 7 Assists... He was particularly bad with the ball in the last 4 minutes... He use to be almost as tough on foul shots as Haws, now he's worse than Zylstra and Davies... I can tell by the way he plays now that he is playing scared... I think Rose and others have landed on him big time and now it almost seems that he flinches everytime he makes a mistake... He needs Summer Baketball in the worst way.

    Another problem that is almost as big is that BYU has very little Offensive or Rebounding Talent once Davies leaves... Mica is coming next year, but we really need 2 Micas... It would have been great to have gotten Jabari but we didn't and so we need someone like him to fill another "Bigs Slot"... I'm hoping we land Payton Dastrup but even if we do, we don't get him for another year.

    We need alot more out of Austin and Sharp.

  • OC Fan Orange County, CA
    March 3, 2013 12:44 a.m.

    Nine TO's from our PG - ouch!

  • omahacougar Omaha, NE
    March 2, 2013 11:32 p.m.

    On Ireland's shot at the buzzer, his right foot was clearly on the 3-point line. It should have only counted for two and the final score should be 73-69.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    March 2, 2013 11:29 p.m.

    This is a team without a leader or any real confidence. They barely beat the worst team in the conference. It wouldn't be surprising to see them lose their first game in the WCC tournament.