Lone Peak overcomes Brighton's stall to advance to the 5A championship

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  • H-TownTiger Hurricane, 00
    March 8, 2013 5:57 a.m.


    Of course lone peak was content, they were multiple possesions ahead, and they knew that they had the defensive power to shut out brighton's last second plays. that's why they didn't go out to defend...they didn't need to

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    March 6, 2013 4:12 p.m.

    I truly hope Utah high school will implement a shot clock (35 second)without any further delay. This will greatly enhance prep hoops in the state and avoid the disgrace witnessed vs Brighton. Does anyone remember the two girls from Alberta, Canada who played at UVU a few years ago? Robin Fairbanks(Raymond H.S.)and Julie MacMurray(Cardston H.S.) were both on State Championship teams in H.S. It was here they got so used to attacking the basket aggressively. Currently in Alberta we have a 24 sec. shot clock and the half-court time line is 8 seconds. Incredibly entertaining basketball to watch. Cardston H.S. cougars(boys) won the state title just one year ago. We likely could not even carry water for Lone Peak. But then again nobody else could either.

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    March 6, 2013 5:22 a.m.

    You stall for the same reason a football team passes on every down while taking all of the 25 sec clock to do it. That is, we're not good enough to go head to head the only chance is to shorten the game so hopefully just a few points will separate the two teams or get a lucky long pass or long shot to stay in the realm of possibility. Coaches forget that #1 this is entertainment so ypu're supposed to put on a good show and secondly, the fans appreciate any team that guts it out by trying to really compete and play the best they can whether they're up by 1 or 20. Both teams will look back on this as having been a very unsatisfying championship game.
    In the old days Frank Arnold would just hate to play Wyoming and UTEP because they used "jap" offenses. As a recognition of PC, the term today for a gimmicky b-ball or football offense or defense is "junk". Wyo came into a Fri night MC packed to hold the ball until a min or so was gone and then shoot averaging 20-30 pts/gm

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2013 4:26 a.m.

    I think a lot of you are forgetting one little detail. At any point Lone Peak could've sent a player over to try and take the ball away but chose not to. Both schools were content to let this continue.

  • B C Park City, UT
    March 4, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    At the very least, the UHSAA should implement a 35-second shot clock for the playoffs.

    Leave it up to each region to decide when to implement the shot clock for all teams in their region.

    That way, no one can squawk about it being too expensive, which is a farce anyway.

  • zelmob57 Vernal, Ut
    March 4, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    I thought the UHSAA had agreed to implement a shot clock beginning with the 2015-16 season. The fact that no one else has mentioned that leads me to think that was a pipe dream of mine. Maybe that was the next time the issue would be put to a vote. Someone out there must have the info to fill us in on the status of the shot clock issue for Utah HS hoops. Please, someone in the know, fill us in on the process and prospects of shot clock implementation!

  • HSbasketball23 Draper, UT
    March 3, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    My bad my bad! Brighton only made it to the semis! Hey all I'm saying was good try with the gimmick. I wouldn't start throwin disrespect their way though.

  • H-TownTiger Hurricane, 00
    March 3, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    lol at all the people thinking that holding a ball for 11 minutes while down 3+ possesions was a good strategy...brighton just didn't wanna lose by as much as they did last year, did it work..yeah they only lost by 25 instead of 30. as others have said it might of been better if it was a 1 possesion game. brighton was wasting down the clock, it was poor play calling on the coaches part, and all of brightons players had their season stolen right from under their noses

  • Uncle Sam West Jordan, UT
    March 3, 2013 4:26 p.m.

    HSBasketball23 - they did not make it to the finals two years in a row. Check your facts.

    When you are trailing by 7 points in the first quarter, holding the ball for 12 straight minutes is hardly a 'strategy'. Had they held the ball up 5-4, I could see that. They were trying not to lose by as many points as they did last time and they failed. 'Strategy' would have been using the clock and being deliberate with every possession. What Brighton did was stand there and hold the ball. They did not pass, dribble, or shoot. They just stood there at mid-court holding the ball. Pathetic!

    If you want to give props to anyone, give them to Alta for coming out and playing them. I will always respect a fighter, and Alta showed who they are by coming out and playing their best. Brighton put their tails between their legs.

  • HSbasketball23 Draper, UT
    March 2, 2013 11:21 p.m.

    Wow! All these people that think this coach is playing the game to "please the crowd" this coach had his reasons for this strategy. Sometimes I find it funny that all these people say Brighton was "scared" or they were afraid.. Lets think about it, they were playing the #1 team in country.. I'm pretty sure this gimmick was purely a chance to slow the role of this amazing team. Give Brighton some respect. This coach has gotten his team to state finals two years a row. Some one please let me know if we should start letting "the crowd" tell coaches how to coach! So yes the people on here disrespecting Brighton or their coach PATHETIC! Kuddos to both teams! Lone peak is simply amazing period! Brighton good luck next year!

  • HSbasketball23 Draper, UT
    March 2, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    It's so funny that all these people are hating on the fact that this team tried a gimmick to beat the #1 team in the country! I'm all for it, their not playing the game to please the "crowd" they're trying to win. And if that's how they thought they could then whats the problem. If you know basketball you would know that. And again if they would of beat Lone Peak then what.. Would we have heard that this tactic was genius.. Brighton deserves respect for what they have done this year. For those that are coming at the coach.. Please grow up.. He's trying to play the game and lead his team to a W.. With what ever it may take. "Scream fear" ha.. We're talking about the #1 team in the country so yes I'm sure any body playing this team is trying to find ways to slow them down.. Unfortunately it didn't work but kudos to Brighton for making it there.

  • rok San Diego, CA
    March 2, 2013 10:02 p.m.

    It was a perfectly legitimate strategy, even though some of you might not like it. Take what strategy you can to win the game. People don't like intentional walks in baseball, but it sometimes works. It doesn't make them cowards, it is just trying to limit the opponent's strengths. Some of you are saying it is embarrassing because they didn't try to man up and go toe to toe. Would you continuously send your running back at the best defensive line around to prove that you could go toe to toe, or would you try to pass or develop some new scheme like the spread offense or use some trickeration. Until they get a shot clock, the strategy Brighton used is legitimate.

  • BamaFan Spanish Fork, UT
    March 2, 2013 6:30 p.m.

    I went to several HS Basketball games this year and although I didn't witness a team hold the ball and stall for 11 minutes, I did see multiple games where possessions went over the 4 minute mark. This isn't a "strategy" it is an admission that our athletes can't compete with yours and therefore we have zero chance of beating you without sticking it to the student athletes, student sections, parents, etc. What this adds up to is the UHSAA has to put in a shot clock for next season. It simply is time and overdue. Fans do not want to come to the games and watch great student athletes hold the ball at the top of the key. They want to see these athletes get up and down the court and compete every possession. Not to mention, those who are lucky enough to continue their education through athletics in college will be better prepared.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 2, 2013 3:37 p.m.


    I remember, I went to Provo in the 80's and am as familiar with both MV and TV at that time as anyone, but there was a difference. All Brighton did was come over half court and then just stand there with the ball. It wasn't a slow down, it was simply not playing at all. If you are LOSING, as Brighton was, then you need to score at some point to have a shot at winning, they weren't even tyring to do anything, they were litterally standing there. That is not a strategy unless your strategy is just to not give up any more points and not try to score any yourself.

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    March 2, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    You play to win the game. Slowing it down was probably brightons best chance to win. Coaches try to put their team in the best situation to win and i would agree that slowing it way down would be the best shot against this lone peak team...they probably should have started a little earlier though when they were up.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    March 2, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    Terrible sportsmanship from Lone Peak fans booing at a game. Total lack of class. And to make matters worse they come on this site and whine and moan when the other team was following the rules of the game. To whine and cry about Coach Gardner stopping the ball just after the half court line and NOT whine and cry about Coach Lewis refusing to have his players leave the 3 point line to attack the ball is the same thing... both coaches were using strategy.

    As for the players... they practiced this routine. They were counting on drawing LOne Peak out to attack the ball, leaving a 4 on 4 match up giving Brighton a better chance of winning. So, the players were part of the planning. It's a team game.

    The Lone Peak whiners were just as sad they didn't get to see the typical LP slaughter (only up by 7 points at half, up by 5 points in the 3rd quarter when they usually are up by 30) just like Goliath roared and whined at David for not gong toe-to-toe with Goliath. Smart coaching. Total sportsmanship.

  • stampederus Ephraim, UT
    March 2, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    Why not have a shot clock in Utah high school basketball? Makes sense to me. I am sure the players would play with improved skill and the fans would enjoy and be more involved.

  • Alpine Blue Alpine, UT
    March 2, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    Please allow me to add at least one merciful kudo to Coach Gardiner and his young men by pointing to a long-ago (1967) and far away state tournament down in Oklahoma. My high school team won their regional final with a miracle half court shot and crept into the state tournament with a pathetic 12-10 record-a true Cinderella team.

    Paired against the defending state champs from Norman HS who featured a front line of 6-9, 6-7, 6-7 giants our coach implemented a four corner stall shortly after we took a 2-0 lead. There were at least two quarters with no points scored by either team. Our center was only 6-4 and with a couple of good ballhandlers, we were able to keep their big guys out of the game and eventually won 13-10 to advance to the second round where we were trounced by the number 2 team by almost 40 points.

    Give the Brighton coach a break, as this strategy might have worked had he started it with a lead. Boring indeed, but it may have given Brighton at least half a chance.

    Go Knights!!

  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    March 2, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    Although it makes for boring basketball, I don't blame the Brighton coach at all. He is right, his job is to win the game and he made a bold decision to try and keep it close.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    March 2, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    I moved to Alpine from California 6 years ago and in the first Lone Peak game I went to, Bingham High came out and did the same stall tactic that Brighton tried and it didn't work for them either. I was shocked to learn that there isn't a shot clock in Utah high school basketball because there has been a shot clock in California for as long as I can remember. So, there observations: 1) Get a shot clock in Utah high school basketball. Lone Peak has put Utah high school basketball on the national map but having to play in a ridiculous farce of a game like they did against Brighton sets the state back in a huge way. 2) Coaches of teams playing Lone Peak - stalling doesn't work. It's been done before and it never works so let your kids play. 3) Any team that doesn't come out and put forth their best effort cheats the kids, the game, the fans, the families of the players and everyone involved. These kids haven't spent years and years working out, training and developing their skills to come out and stall half the game. That was pathetic!

  • The Jimmer Okemos, MI
    March 2, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    Rational --

    Not playing at all is not a strategy, it's not playing.

    It would have been fine if Brighton had taken 2-3 minutes for each possession by dribbling and passing around and then finally shooting it, but just standing there is not playing. It's boring -- for the players, the fans, and everyone else involved.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    March 2, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    If only there was a way to eliminate stalling from the game of basketball...[/sarcasm]

  • cubs4life South Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    Coach Mac would not of done that ever at Brighton, but they picked Coach gardner instead and he is a younger guy... play lock down defense... push them around, play the game!

  • romorg PROVO, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    @LP Supporter

    If you've been watching HS basketball for 40 years you should be aware that Timpview, under the guidance of Tim Lewis (Quincy's father), used the same tactic against Mt View 30 years ago.

    Timpview was strong at the guard spots with small but quick big men and Mt View had the the towering Pollards. You use what tactics are available to you in order to compete. It's not about losing by less, it's about doing what you need to do in order to have the best chance of victory...no matter how small that chance.

  • geggett Orem, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    I wish college basketball would get rid of the stupid shot clock. Slow-down-strategy games have been some of the most exciting I have ever watched. Bring back the fun!

  • ShortGuy West Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    He simply employed a totally legal strategy within the rules. You may not like it, but it was a strategy, not "cowardly." If you have a problem with it, then you better get on some lobbying committee to implement a shot clock.

  • manthony highland, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    I believe in using the rules to your advantage and that's what Brighton was doing. Until there is a Shot Clock, stalling(although unexciting) will be a considered strategy by all coaches in a similar circumstance. I am from LP and I have been waiting for someone to stall on LP all year and I wouldn't be surprised if Alta did it in the State game. I think Brighton's mistake was giving in to the crowd and not sticking to their strategy. It was their only hope to keep the game within a couple possessions and they gave that up in the second half.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:11 a.m.


    You are over-thinking this one. This wasn't strategy, it was a poor decision. Brighton wasn't trying to lull the defense into lethargy to try and get an open shot. They weren't even trying to spread the defense to open up the floor so they could get a good shot. In fact, they didn't even care if they had an open shot - Brighton wasn't going to try to shoot period. If you are up by 7, that might not be a bad strategy, but being down by 7 makes it a slow suicide. The idea of holding the ball the whole game so you are as close as possible in the end in hopes of getting a lucky basket might even make sense if the score was 3-2, but the Bengals were down by 7, at least 3 normal possessions.

    No, this was not strategy - It was a poor decision. And it was a disservice to the Bengals, the Knights and the fans.

  • geggett Orem, UT
    March 2, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    I love games with strategy. College basketball became much less fun to watch with the advent of the shot clock.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    March 2, 2013 8:40 a.m.

    I'm no coach, but if I'm behind by 14-7 in a game, I don't stall, because then I don't score. And if I don't score, I don't have a prayer of winning, so why am I even there.

    March 2, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    Brighton was not going to win, no matter what they did. Why didn't the coach tell them that and then tell them to go out there and have some fun. Those boys will never have a chance to play against such a formidable opponent again and they could have had a lot of fun without the nemisis of a must win situation hanging over their heads.The coach should have simply said let's do our best and have fun against these guys.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 2, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Obviously coach Gardner has been watching the u of u play and decided to emulate "krystkowiak ball". This is exactly how utah plays with the exception being they are forced to eventually shoot because of the shot clock. They seek to slow the game down to nothing more than a crawl, if that, and not score any points in a vain attempt to keep games close. It is horribly ugly and boring.

    Yes I know there is some "strategy" involved in it but it isn't a good strategy. It basically makes a mockery of the game.

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    March 2, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    You play to win the game. Brightons best chance to win the game was to slow it down. As a coach you should put your kids in the best position to win the game. I feel this is what the coach was doing. Most of you that are saying this was pathetic, probably dont have a clue about coaching. Sorry.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    March 2, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    There is no other way to spin this game than to say Brighton didn't man up and try to play toe to toe. It was so awkward that even the announcers were saying silly things like, "Well they're not losing as bad as last year." Brilliant.

    Plus why stall when you are down by 7?

    re:rational- are you really trying (desperately) to defend holding the ball for 71/2 minutes? That may be a strategy but it screams weakness and fear.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    March 2, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with what Brighton was trying to do.

    I know it is sports but compare it to war. If you are outmanned you don't run your soldiers into the line of fire only to be destroyed. You use strategy to try to lure the enemy out of their strongholds.

    Brighton didn't break any rules and did what they thought would give them the best chance to win. Was it exciting to watch, no. But they aren't there to entertain the crowd. They are there to win.

    I credit the coach with having enough guts to give it a shot.

  • Slammer Lehi, UT
    March 2, 2013 6:52 a.m.

    Why don't all you Brighton-bashers look at how Coach Lewis of Lone Peak evaluated the Brighton stall - he thought it was perfectly legitimate .

    In addition, if you looked at the Brighton players going into the locker room at halftime, they were really fired up! Being down only 7 at the half has rarely happened this year vs. Lone Peak (and not once in Utah this season). They were also fired up coming onto the floor after halftime. Don't put words in the Brighton players' mouths - they were fully on board with the plan to try and beat the unbeatable Knights.

    My only criticism of Gardner is he didn't carry it far enough! Once he decided to go this direction he should have done the same in the 3rd quarter and halfway into the 4th. Down 7 with 4:00 left in the 4th - theoretically anything could have happened!

    As a LP fan I was very nervous during the halftime break, more nervous than in any other game this year in Utah. Fortunately Coach Lewis and the LP team had a response for the stall - a combination of patience and confidence.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    March 2, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    If you are a coach or player the rules are there for you to use. I hated to see the stall tactic used but it was legal and they were using the rules for, as they thought, their advantage. Lone Peak showed they were the much better team. I would have loved to have seen a faster paced game, but you have to try different things to win.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 11:53 p.m.

    Pathetic -- the comments, I mean. If you don't want strategy, go watch a pickup game. If Brighton had won, he'd be hailed as the smartest coach ever. BTW, didn't Dean Smith, Michael Jordan's hero, run the four corner offense?

  • nielsen American Fork, UT
    March 1, 2013 11:31 p.m.

    Pretty much everyone has said it here. Embarrassing and sad are the two words I can use to describe the stalling situation by Brighton. By doing what they did it made Brighton look like cowards afraid to play against the big boys. Their coach should have let them play even if they lost by 30 or more. Robbing people of being able to play the sport they put hours into is a disgrace. What a lesson Gardner is going to learn from this. You never give up in games. Gardner did that with 3 minutes left in the first quarter. What a shame.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    March 1, 2013 11:28 p.m.

    It didn't bother me at all that Brighton implemented what it thought was its best chance to win. I remember Wyoming doing this to BYU many decades ago before the shot-clock was put into action. I have no interested in either team that played in this game, but I have no problem with what I saw on the court. Brighton was not going to run with LP. Its only shot at winning was the slow the game as much as possible. Even that didn't work, but it gave them a chance.

  • B C Park City, UT
    March 1, 2013 11:21 p.m.

    "Sometimes you’re the pigeon and sometimes you’re the statue. Tonight, I was the statue."

    Way to go coach.

    Not only were you the statue, but you made your kids share the embarrassment of being statues with you.

    Was it really worth it?

  • stevenszzz Utah, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:49 p.m.

    The kids worked hard all summer on their game. They came early to school and hit the weight room to increase their strength. The the season started and they did conditioning everyday.....running ladders, suicides, and endless drills. They had a dream of finishing off their senior season by making it into the state tournament and representing themselves, their families, their school, and each other with dignity and class. They are fortunate and make it to the semi final game in the state tournament. Then the coach decides to teach them a life lesson. Let's utilize your skills and stamina that you have made tremendous sacrifice to achieve, and showcase it by standing there, holding the ball, and looking stupid. What a dis-service to these kids. Coach, this is not the ending we dreamed about. Embarassing. Let us compete and LEAVE IT ALL ON THE COURT.

  • Proud to be American West Jordan, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    Lone Peak has put Utah basketball on the map. With the #1 ranking and recent national attention, this team has done nothing but great things for the respect and reputation of Utah high school basketball.

    Brighton completely undid all of those positives tonight in a gutless performance! I am totaly embarrassed for the Brighton parents, players, and fans tonight. I hope that this game does not make national news, what a pathetic strategy tonight by Brighton.

    Utah desperately needs a shot clock, but the sad thing is the UHSAA will continue to make excuses as to why Utah can't get one.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    Sad. Pretty, pretty sad. What a pathetic scene. Great lesson for the kids, eh, coach? Trust me, Brighton, you are not Princeton.

  • Timmie Lynn Webster ALPINE, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    I genuinely felt sorry for the senior players on Brighton. What the coach did was to deny them the chance to go out and play their hardest on what was their last high school game. He made them look like a bunch of cowards who didn't have the guts to play with the big boys! It was a ridiculous stunt that made their team look incompetent and classless. If I was a parent of one of those players, I would be furious for robbing my son of the chance to lose with dignity and respect.

  • Ville Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:21 p.m.

    Getting beat by 20 on LP's court earlier in the year and playing the Knights dead even for 3 quarters or play your "strategy" game and lose by 26. Coach Gardiner's right, Coach Lewis is a better coach than he is, everyone in the stands could see that and you don't have to be involved with either school to be biased either. Did he not think that LP would ever practice or work on situations like this and be ready for it. Why would anyone come out and waste energy with a 14-7 lead. Think about it. Get a shot clock and sooner the better. Many good teams slow the ball game down, even with a shot clock. Watch certain teams in the Big Ten, those that run the Princeton offense. That's real strategy and playing to win the game. Brighton's got a great team, they can play, too bad the fans didn't get a chance to see it today.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:03 p.m.

    To Two For Flinching:

    Brighton wasn't going to win this game regardless. And this wasn't playing to win, this was not playing to not get blown off the court. It is one thing to slow down play, or to force the defense out on you if you are ahead at the end of the half/game. But when you are behind by seven in the 1st quarter, not shooting and not passing will NOT make up the deficit, and is just poor sportsmanship.

    Play your hardest. If it is not enough to win, well, winning isn't everything, but you gave it your best shot. No dishonor in that.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:58 p.m.

    I personally was very disappointed that a coach would take his team out of the game. If BHS felt they had no chance, they should have just forforfeited and not even show up.

    I believe all that the Brighton coach accomplished was taking his own team out of the game. LP kept their cool and merely waited Brighton out. When the game started again for real, it was Brighton who seemed to have lost concentration and quickly was toast.

    So in the end the Brighton coach felt he couldn't win playing a full game , so he stalled and and quickly learned that the result was the same except his team will carry a gorilla on their back for sometime to come as a team afraid to play.

    I really feel bad for the Brighton kids, the coach robbed them of any respect they may have earned for adsolutely nothing.

  • LP suppporter Lehi, Utah
    March 1, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    I am not sure where to start... I have watched high school basketball for over 40 years and what I saw tonight was pathetic. I am sure Coach Gardner has his reasons for the stall, but none of them have merit. Coach Gardner's father, Joel, one of the best coaches this state has ever seen must have been hiding his face in shame. In the 80's Mt View attacked, played defense and won state titles. To sit and watch Coach Schellenberger sitting on the bench eyes on the floor having coached with both Gardners had to be embarrassed. The only thing that Coach Gardner did was fill LP with a resolve to play harder. In December Brighton only lost by 20 to LP, at one point in the first 12 minutes of the second half LP outscored Brighton by 21. Quincy mercifully called the dogs off with 4 minutes left in the game up by 28. A terrible message was sent by Gardner to his players... you cannot compete so stall, don't get beat by 40. I think that I would rather get beat by 50 playing hard than do what Brighton did tonight. Time for a shot clock

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    March 1, 2013 9:15 p.m.

    Perfect example and ammunition for implementing a 35 sec. shot clock. That was NOT basketball. That was a complete disgrace to the game of basketball. When will Utah school athletics do what has been long over-due and bring in shot clocks?

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:09 p.m.

    I understand why people wouldn't like it, but what Brighton did is completely fine. You have to play to win, and this was the only way the Bengals had any chance....

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    March 1, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    Brighton did a disservice to themselves, the fans, and the tournament by wasting more than an entire quarter holding the ball. What an embarrassment for their players and fans. And good on Lewis for not biting.