AZUTE1 - Win a National Championship and then come talk...or better yet, have a
winning season...in either sport.
For a prime example of off-topic comments see azute1.
BYUalum:"This was an interesting article that told us that
Bronco turned down TWO PAC 12 coaching jobs at UCLA and Colorado."The article did NOT say that. The article said 2 Pac-12 schools only
"approached him". I get "approached" by recruiters all the
time, but no job had ever been offered to me that I didn't interview for,
and neither had I been offered a job for every position for which I actually HAD
interviewed. And neither had Bronco.
NevadaCoug:"Utah got in BECAUSE of BYU. Exhibit A: 1996. Exhibit
B: 2001 (?). (And before anybody says BYU didn't get into a BCS bowl in
Doman's last season because they lost to Hawaii, they were told they
weren't invited before they even played Hawaii.)"Not true.
Utah got into those game because they went undefeated. In 1996, there WAS no
BCS, and the expanded BCS bowl games occurred AFTER Utah busted the BCS. If the
Y were responsible for the expanded BCS bowl games due to their 2001 season,
then there would have been 5 BCS bowls by 2002 or 2005. Not 2005.The Y was told they wouldn't have played in the 2001 BCS because there
was no room. Back in '01, there were only 4 BCS games. The Rose
automatically got the BigTen and Pac-10 champions, the Sugar took the
SEC's, the Orange took the ACC's, the Fiesta took the Big 12's,
and the Big East's champion filled the 6th of 8 auto bids. That left only
2 at-large bids to out, and there were 2 other schools with a higher BCS ranking
than the Y's whose regular season had already finished.
CougFaninTX:The cougars didn't drop Hawai'i from their
schedule. Hawai'i dropped the cougars. Big difference.
@Nevada Coug? for you since in 1996 and 2001 the cougies somehow
opened the door for the utes 2 BCS bowl games. Why hasn't the cougies
stepped through that door they opened and been invited to a BCS game yet?
Sweet. Hope they sign this guy for 50 years.For opponents, he is
the gift that keeps on giving. For his own BYU "fans", he mocks
them.Best of both worlds.
@ NevadaCougOf course! BYU is the reason that allowed Utah to crash
the BCS first. haha. Your funny! First and foremost, the only thing
BYU is credited for is the creation of the Bowl Coalition, Bowl Alliance, and
the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) because of their weak sauce SOS in 1984 that
resulted in a bogus National Championship. The 1996 Cougs did not
change the rules for mid majors to gain better access to BCS bowls. The Bowl
Alliance at the time included the SEC, Big Eight, SWC, ACC, Big East, and Notre
Dame. The Pac-10 and Big Ten champs were locked in the Rose Bowl which was not
included as one of the Bowl Alliance bowls. As a result multiple split national
championships. 1998 the BCS was formed to include the Rose Bowl and it's
two conference affiliates. Not BYU's 1996 season!Next BYU in
2001 didn't go to a BCS bowl because they didn't finish the season
ranked in the top 6 (which Utah did in 2004). But if they're were teams
that helped Utah crash the BCS in 2004 it would have been Tulane in 1998 and
Marshall in 1999. Both teams went undefeated. Not BYU!
Y Grad"Please, BYU has room to improve, but it's difficult
to take chastisement from a team who HAD a tremendous bowl reputation but is
quick becoming the poster child for mediocrity."Difficult? No
doubt...but you must, because that team has beaten you three years running and 7
out of 10. Sorry.
BYUalumSouth Jordan, UTCongratulations to Cougar nation and Bronco
Mendenhall! This was an interesting article that told us that Bronco turned down
TWO PAC 12 coaching jobs at UCLA and Colorado. I guess that being in the PAC 12
isn't that big of a deal. Actually, I don't care what league BYU is
in. I just want a solid program, and with the coaches we have lined up for 2013,
that's what it looks like. And, we're playing a terrific schedule! PAC 12 doesn't look so great for Utes. When they are not Bowl
eligible and continually beaten by league teams, it must suck. Basketball
program is struggling as well with few wins.They are trying, and both programs
have good coaches. Go Cougars!__________Looks like UCLA is doing just fine without Bronco. And Colorado hired a better
What is happening? I have agreed with Duckhunter three times this month.
It's nice when you aren't out to ridicule. Bronco is the right guy for
BYU. His job is harder at BYU than many realize. Continuing a winning tradition
doesn't just happen (especially nowadays). Bronco works under a much
tighter ship from the university than Lavell did. And Bronco embraces it and
makes it a positive. That takes faith because it wasn't a given that
winning would continue with the paradigm shift took place 8 years ago. Bronco had a losing record his first season and stayed the course and his
record has been impressive.
I hope Bronco gets the extension. It is also about time that he start acting
like the head coach instead of trying to be the defensive coordinator. Good
leadership and management requires the head of the team to be able to stay about
the fray during the game so he can make pay attention to time management and
strategic issues. (like making sure your QB doesn't run a play and get
injured at the end of the game). Whomever his management guru is, he has done
him a disservice up to now. Very few successful CEO's also act as the CTO,
Sales VP or CFI
@AZUTE1:All the while, UTAH continues to play against a more
difficult SOS, annually.Somehow I knew ute fans would be crying over
their SOS. Bwah!Can't take the heat,-get out of the kitchen.
Taking so many beatings, are embarrassing to the state of Utah which only BYU
AZUTE1Mesa, AZDid you really just use the expression
"mired in post-season mediocrity?"Missed this last bowl
season entirely? Barely beat, in overtime, a Georgia Tech team the season
before? Insulted your bowl opponent the year before that, then proceeded to get
spanked by them?Please, BYU has room to improve, but it's
difficult to take chastisement from a team who HAD a tremendous bowl reputation
but is quick becoming the poster child for mediocrity.
Wonderful! Go Bronco! Go Cougars!!
People, myself included, thought new blood would help the program when Anae left
a few years ago. Look how the offense performed in his absence.If
you really want Bronco replaced, all I have to say is: be careful what you wish
for.And I have to laugh at the Anti-BYU-Utites spouting their
"BCS bowls when it was much harder to get in." Utah got in BECAUSE of
BYU. Exhibit A: 1996. Exhibit B: 2001 (?). (And before anybody says BYU
didn't get into a BCS bowl in Doman's last season because they lost to
Hawaii, they were told they weren't invited before they even played
Hawaii.)If BYU hadn't been unjustly shut out those two seasons
then the changes that allowed Utah, Boise St, Hawaii, and TCU to crash the BCS
party would never have happened. It was the threat of Congressional
investigations after BYU was left out the second time that led to the BCS making
the changes that allowed Utah to bust the BCS.Your welcome.
Veritas AequitasFruit Heights, UTToo bad. Now BYU will continue to
be nationally ranked and will go on to play in Bowl Games...>>>Is that all that matters to you? I want BYU to play
for a national title. Not just continue the same stale story of lame bowl games
and lousy record against ranked teams. Our supposed rankings the past several
years is nothing to be proud of.
@3grandslams "Yet at the same time his intensity about the game is
phenomenal."Intensity?The only intensity I see is in
an oxymoron; Bronco does an intense impersonation of a low intense Lavell
Edwards.This season's T-shirt; BYU Football N10s
Yes! Bronco's our best asset.Now, pleas, please, please sign
Tom for the same extension.This is awesome!This seasons
T-shirt; Extension to Perfection
To the trolls up north who post first on every BYU article, remember this:
"he who laughs last, laughs best!" Also, Shakespeare said, "thou
protestesth too much!" Those that have to get a word in every BYU article
seem to want to fight the battle with words, and make sure their same words are
repeated often. The battle is fought on the field...the rest is rhetoric.BYU will be LAUGHING LAST this September! I predict the score to be BYU
31- Team North 3.
BYU should have waited until after the 2013 season, or at least the Utah
game.I will be chanting "Fire Bronco" at the game if BYU
loses to Utah. Bronco is 3-5 against Utah (with 2 of those being huge blow out
losses).Bronco is the king of beating inferior teams, but how about
getting a coach that can occasionally beat a decent team?
Congratulations to Cougar nation and Bronco Mendenhall! This was an interesting
article that told us that Bronco turned down TWO PAC 12 coaching jobs at UCLA
and Colorado. I guess that being in the PAC 12 isn't that big of a deal.
Actually, I don't care what league BYU is in. I just want a solid program,
and with the coaches we have lined up for 2013, that's what it looks like.
And, we're playing a terrific schedule! PAC 12 doesn't
look so great for Utes. When they are not Bowl eligible and continually beaten
by league teams, it must suck. Basketball program is struggling as well with few
wins.They are trying, and both programs have good coaches. Go
I hope they give him a million dollars for a million years. He's so good
I'd be happier if Bronco had a coach that would speak for him...
How many coordinators and assistants will Bronco run out of town?How
about hiring a coach that is accountable? Bronco takes credit for
wins and blames losses on assistants. He has forced out several coordinators
and many assistants.Bronco is the problem.
"...“Robert, Nick and Kelly are pillars of our coaching staff,"
Mendenhall said. "I have complete confidence in their coaching and
leadership abilities and the sincere desire each has to help the young men in
our program succeed at the highest level. I have great expectations regarding
the contributions of each member of our staff as we prepare our team for the
2013 season.”...".Brandon, Joe and Ben are pillars of our
This is great news, I have thought it ridiculous that people have been calling
for the head of a guy that has won as much as Bronco has. Certainly there is
room for improvement but that is true of 99% of the coaches and programs in the
country. It looks like things have solidified themselves and now
spring ball is about to begin. This is exciting.
This is better news the Van Noy coming back! Bronco is about more than football,
which is how it should be. Yet at the same time his intensity about the game is
phenomenal. But the thing I love most about his program, pre-game firesides.
Bronco's identity is not football. Make fun of him for quoting scriptures
if you want, but that shallowness will cause you to miss getting to know a good
Why not wait to see how next year turns out. Based on last season Bronco would
surely be looking at a substantial pay cut.
All the while, UTAH continues to play against a more difficult SOS,
annually....Good times, Good times, indeed.
In the process, UTAH managed to go undefeated twice and finishing the year
ranked #4 and #2, respectively, the latter against long-running ranked #1/the
following year's NC, the sec's own Powerhouse Alabama and their
legendary HC Nick Saban, w/all of his millions-of-dollars....Coach Urban
Meyer/Kyle Whittingham Bronco Mendenhall will never be, defined by mediocrity
and rarely ever beating a good team.
Note--During this current BCS Era [1998-Current], both UTAH and byu have reached
a bowl game in 11 out of 15 total years....However, this is where any
similarities cease to exist....While byu is mired in post-season mediocrity,
barely hovering around .500 at 6-5, entirely in low-/mid-tier bowl games, UTAH
has enjoyed off-the-chart success, steamrolling to a beyond impressive 10-1 bowl
game record, including 2 squarely on The Center-Stage in The National Spotlight
on The National Stage resounding, straight dominating BCS Bowl Game victories,
the former as The Original BCS-Buster, when it was significantly more difficult
to do so and which ultimately led to a change in the non-BCS
qualifying-threshhold, yet not one which byu will ever even remotely sniff, mind
More state championships for the cougs, and beyond.
Holmoe, et. al., talk about "BCS Respectability." If, indeed,
that's where they want the BYU Football team, I'm sorry fellow Cougs
fans, but extending Coach Bronco's contract is not the decision to make.
Over the last 2 years in particular, he has clearly shown he is a GREAT
defensive coordinator, but not a great "head coach." A head coach takes
control over the entire team and program. The program is stagnant if not
regressed the past 2 years. Bowl eligible, yes. But, again, if BCS is the goal,
I don't know that Craft Hunger Bowl and Poinsettia Bowls are going to cut
it. I know many Cougs fans will point to all the bowl games and where the
program is from when Coach Bronco took it over, and those points are well-taken.
I, too, was once the biggest Bronco supporter. I simply think he's reached
as far as he can get the team. Time for new blood.
Great news! Nice picture of Bronco celebrating another bowl win.
BYU and Utah football programs headed in two different directions. One to
mid-pac nothingness and one to national limelight. Go Cougs!
Seems like mostly minor title changes. Bronco is a great defensive coach and
hopefully the Cougars can play just as well defensively this year while
improving offensively.It will be interesting to see how many years
are on Bronco's new contract extension!
Too bad. Now BYU will continue to be nationally ranked and will go on to play in
I'm somewhat surprised to hear about Bronco pursing an extension. I
thought I remembered him saying that he didn't plan on coaching for an
extended period of time.
Looks like Bronco will be around for awhile, whether some like it or not. Now
that BYU seems to have moved past the entitlement phase in regards to their
coaches (requiring them to hire assistant coaches who can get results, having no
nepotism or favoratism), hopefully, BYU football can achieve its potential. I
feel excited for this year. In the next 9 months of so, we will see if all of
this hard work of recruiting, changes in coaching personnel, and this difficult
schedule, will all pay off. Go BYU!
CougFaninTXUtah is playing a total of zero WAC schools. They play
one MWC, one indy, and one one Big Sky team. BYU is playing 1 Sun Belt, 3 MWC,
1 C-USA, and 1 Big Sky team.
cb - apparently U forgot to look at the schedule, with BYU dropping Hawaii and
Utah picking up Fresno St, U now play more wac teams than BYU. BYU is moving
away from these teams. Utah is trying to do anything to make their schedule
easier to get to .500. Good luck.I knew there had to be something
more than OC to lure Anae back to Provo. I'm not too concerned about the
titles. I'm hope these coaches can get us back to double digit wins.
I heard there was once upon a time a team that lost to the WAC opponent it
played. I heard that once upon a time there was a team that did not go to a bowl
game. This happened last year, or so I hear........better to win the WAC and go
to a bowl then sit around cleaning up nacho trays and empty beverage bottles for
the big guns in the BCS. Mr. X(censored), we will look for your cheesy nacho
hands this fall.
Very interesting. Bronco is hard to read sometimes. Other times he is
predictable as can be. For all that bothers me about this man, I do like like
how Bronco only signed for three years when he had a hard time reading himself
as well. It was there he kept it simple for the better of the program rather
than himself. Nice.