Actress Roma Downey and husband call for greater Bible literacy

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  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 4, 2013 10:46 p.m.

    @Craig Clark

    You make the mistake of believing one must separate the secular and the non-secular.

    Your education would be incomplete without education in both.

    There is no requirement, and no need, for such separation, in the constitution.

    And the constitution expressly gives only few powers and but mostly limits to the federal government.

    It claims all power and rights belong to people and the states, It does not limit the people nor their schools.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 4, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    If secularists would agree to allow the Bible to be taught in public schools, would the ministers of the gospel reciprocate by allowing atheists equal time at their pulpits on Sunday mornings?

    I don't think so.

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    March 4, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    @Maudine: I am interested in hearing why elective teaching of the Bible is "an infringement on the rights of others", to quote your statement. My impression of what is being called for by those who believe the Bible contains the principles upon which the U.S. is founded, is that they wish to have teaching of the Bible available in public schools, not that they wish to force the Bible on anyone. I am opposed to forcing anyone to learn anything, but, there are situations where there can be requirements to study a certain thing if one is to obtain a desired goal, and there are others where the study of, say, the history of America can be required to be a citizen. One of my favorite "peeves" is that I believe people who live in the U.S. and receive anything from any government of the U.S. ought to be required to have gone through enough education to become a citizen and to be able to speak and read English. I have experience many situations where I could not communicate with someone for an important reason because they did not speak or understand English. etc. (out-of-room)

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 2, 2013 6:32 p.m.


    We have "progressed"? In what way?

    Are following the gospel precepts any better now than we did two hundred years ago?

    How is society any better off? are we more moral ans more principled? What values are important now days?

    The fact we have not progressed. but that progressives have taken over, rewritten history, or thrown away the parts they don't like,

    They have attempted do away with constitution, or at the very least reinterpreted every part of it to their ends.

    And as for the bible, it does mean we should be using it, because the first hundred and fifty years are a strong indicator of how the 1st amendment should be interpreted.

    First and foremost all powers and rights belong to the people not the government, and schools belong to the local citizens not federal government.

    I do not understand this desire of "progressives" to want total federal control over all, to control your personal lives, and control your choices.

    So how is society better now that religion and God has been removed (except for Islam oddly enough) from our schools for over the last 60 years?

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    March 2, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    @ the truth: There are a great many things that have been done for years that we no longer do because we have progressed as a society and now realize the problems with what we were doing.

    The Bible may have been used as an educational tool for years - that does not mean it was not an infringement on the rights of others and that does not mean it is something we should continue to do.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    March 2, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    Question - do they propose teaching the Bible in a literature class or a history or science class?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:36 p.m.

    @Craig Clark

    Not a thorny issue at all.

    Not using the bible is a modern notion,

    Using and studying and reading the bible is a historical fact in education, for over the first hundred and fifty years of this country, no founding father found it conflicted with the constitution.

    The supreme court got it wrong with a new twisted interpretation of the first amendment.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 1, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    Even an entirely secular scholar who is atheist knows of the Bible's significance in the history of Western Civilization. But it's also a religious text for millions of believing Christians and Jews. That's why making it mandatory in the secular curriculum in public schools is a thorny issue.

  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    March 1, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    Bible illiteracy also contributes to children growing up without the values that anchors a free people and allows for a Constitutional Republic to continue to exist.