Prison relocation bill advances despite concerns about costs

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  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 28, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    By their fruits, you shall know them. Very disturbing that Gov Herbert and the legislature are all over this despite the majority of tax payers being against it. Problem is half of them, including the non college graduate governor, are, or have been, involved in real estate development which is at it's best when you can put all the risk on the taxpayer and all the reward with you and your friends. Pathetic really, to consider such a boondoggle when education funding in Utah is dead last in the nation.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2013 4:00 p.m.

    I wonder if the legislators will take more money out of our pockets via this boondoggle, then the thieves in prison.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    As was mentioned earlier, socialize the costs and privatize the profits.

    In a state dominated by republicons, who is going to profit?

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    Now I'm not a genius by any means, but wouldn't the state recoup some of the costs if they own the land and sell it? I for one am tired of driving past that prison and would rather see a few parks, buildings and maybe a golf course then that old ugly prison.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Remember Dave Checketts and his $30M bailout deal he got from our Governor and Legislature to help all Utahns in their drive for a successful and productive soccer program? Now Dave is gone but Utahns still paid out the $30M without a real process. Sort of like pushing through the frank and open discussion with our elected officials in HB477 Government Records Amendments -- Dougall, J., now our elected state auditor that is not an auditor. Hopefully, in this process with the Prison he will be able to completely fulfill his fiduciary responsibilities for all the citizens of the state and not his selected few that he owes favors to from his time in the legislature.

    That whole process is a money issue with the prison and it is ironic that we have a state auditor that is not an auditor at this very important time in our history with financial woes that can bite us. We may live in a place that businesses want to come to but we don't want the hint that there is any kind of corruption in our governmental process. That process is for the safety and welfare of our society, in Utah. Attorney general?

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    Feb. 28, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    @skibird, When you can get the land at a taxpayer subsidized giveaway price, you always come out ahead.

  • skibird Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 5:30 a.m.

    There is currently an open field for sale right across the highway from the prison, east side of I-15 just south of Bangerterm there are two but only one with a 'for sale' sign. Thar field isn't selling, then there are fields around the Adobe building all the way south to Lehi and east to the Micron/Flash building which aren't selling. What makes these legislatures think selling the prison property will be such an easy slam dunk?

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Feb. 27, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    Too much money at stake, the developers will make a killing while the taxpayers will foot the bill for building a new prison.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 8:16 p.m.

    Thanks Fitness Freak for a great posting. I don't always agree with you but I do here. Thanks.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 7:37 p.m.

    GOP socialism at its finest.

    Socialize expense; Privatize profits.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 7:34 p.m.

    The time is NOW to email or call your state elected representatives to urge them to put this idea on the "back burner".

    The numbers don't add up. Which companies are willing to spend 20 billion to re-locate to Draper?

    Utah taxpayers could wind up "on the hook" for upwards of 500 million, assuming the state could get 200 million for the ground. Then there's the cost of demolition of the old prison, and the (inevitable) cost overrruns for the new prison.

    How long will it take to amortize the cost savings by building a more efficient prison?
    The state could hire several independent commercial real estate brokers to try to get a better idea of how much the ground could be worth.

    Whatever the state does they MUST be able to guarantee that there won't be any "inside deals" from developers.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    Land grab city with the idea of lining the pockets of real estate developers. Nothing more than that and they know it. So here is a proposal. All money from the sale of the land, all tax revenues resulting for the sale of, development of and long term use of the land, goes directly into a fund that benefits (name your program). And that can never be changed. Oh, no one from the real estate development business can serve on this board. I know, you might think that idea foolish and say "these are the experts". Experts or wolves in sheep clothing?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 6:14 p.m.

    It will be interesting to see how an environmental impact study will go with all the toxic waste there for the past 62 years, philosophically speaking. The impact of a new site, wherever it is, will be as Senator Hillyard experience for 33 years will reveal, it won't be beneficial economically and adding travel bills that Salt Lake County hasn't had to get people to the University of Utah hospital, etc. It seems like there would be at least an impact study for what will happen in tearing down and getting rid of the problems before going to pick another site with the committee.