Duce's Wild: The 90/10 rule in Sunday School

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  • slashby Beaverton, OR
    March 4, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    I caught my 17 year old HS Sr. "preparing" for Sunday School one morning before church...I like this new program!

    March 3, 2013 8:14 p.m.

    A suggestion: this new program patterns the "Reflections" technique used in scouting instruction. An insightful discussion of that technique is in Brad Harris's book "Trails to Testimony." Drawing out knowledge from class participants has always been a valid method of teaching. The new application in Sunday School can be used anywhere--especially in families!

  • Nachtmerrie_in_Brugge Mesa, AZ
    March 1, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    Excellent article! Of course, the best and most famous 'Sunday School' lesson ever taught didn't really involve student participation (other than listening). It didn't take place in a classroom setting with books, Nooks, or multimedia. There probably weren't even chairs on the Mount.

    That said, if we are calling it Sunday SCHOOL, then where are the desks or tables? For me, arranging the chairs in a circle is ideal only if they are behind tables. Otherwise, the circle thing is a little (and for some, very) awkward.

  • Idaone Adairsville, GA
    March 1, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    To Gram Cracker:
    I have used the "circle" sitting concept for my institute classes as well as adult classes for years. The key to overcoming the initial discomfort is to use round table or short rectangle table sitting in 1 or 2 groups, whenever possible. This facilitates the discussion method and seems to produce insights as to how well the student is absorbing the key concepts of the lession.

  • ssteacher Xenia, OH
    March 1, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    I was unsure at first of how this new format was going to go. I now find it more powerful in spirit. I assign 1-2 students a week to present something from the lesson for the following Sunday. I also give weekly challenges to my students that they write down in a journal and try to complete by the following week. I never read the scriptures, my youth do! I keep in touch with my youth and their parents through email, facebook,and weekly discussions.

  • RichyRich Holladay, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    90/10 is not the goal. The goal is to elicit thoughtful, personal, insightful and relevantly revelatory discussions. Without an enlightened and prepared mentor/facilitator, the youth will run amok with insipid idiotics. A could educator educes. As for conventional, you simply mean the false traditions of the fathers imposed by paranoid curriculum mongers. The instructor is still the key, but study "The Last Days of Socrates" for insights into the inductive methodology that empowers and incites depth and testimony and revelations before your very eyes. Then, don't expect the minimum but a day of Pentecost should be the goal!

  • The Scientist Provo, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 6:42 p.m.

    No matter how you change the formats, curriculum superficialities, and emphasis, LDS teaching will always continue to be a "mutual admiration society" that is, ultimately, just a big monologue.

    Invite the local Baptist Bible Study group into Gospel Doctrine. Schedule some debates. Open up and air out the stodgy "discussions" (that are so thick with confirmation bias you can cut it with a chainsaw).

  • GeoMan SALEM, OR
    Feb. 28, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    You seem to have misunderstood. She didn't say to not read scriptures, she said that the teacher shouldn't read a scripture that a student should instead be reading. The "tell" was the telling of a story and is the same thing, students can tell the stories (if prepared ahead of time), or read them if the story is long or the student wasn't prepared.

    Regarding teaching method and sitting in circles, for adult classes the controlling issue is class-size. The average Gospel Doctrine class-size isn't amenable to being seated in a circle and not everyone can have a chance to participate. Having said that, my experience is that most Gospel Doctrine classes have always been run more like the new youth curriculum.

    I hasten to also point out that many, many youth teachers in the Church have been teaching this way all along as well. Those that weren't were just modeling the teaching that they experienced as a youth and didn't know any other way. For them, and the youth that are accustomed to the "old" way, it is an adjustment. I think everyone will adapt quickly.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Feb. 28, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    How does any of the apply to adults in Sunday school though? Specifically Young Single Adults?

  • DenMom Corvallis, MT
    Feb. 28, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    To Gram Cracker
    I like circles. Try sitting in a circle more than once - they may be squeemish the first week but then they'll realize their voice matters in the group and that no one wants them to slump in the back row.

  • Kjirstin Youngberg Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    Her quote was "tell or read" emphasis on the "read" for scriptures, I'm sure.

    This has always been my preferred method, particularly for youth, who generally are trying hard to engage as adults, but are seldom given the chance by "know-it-all" leaders.

    Bravo, Stacie!

  • Gram Cracker Price, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Excellent article. I might change one thing ... sitting in a circle. Whenever we are required to sit in a circle, it causes quite a bit of uncomfortable squirming. No one knows where to look. Sitting in the usual rows is much more normal, at least for us.

  • GiveMeLibert Cedar Rapids, IA
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:13 a.m.

    I agree with everything but the "don't have them read a scripture they can tell." Too many times in classes people "quote scripture" that doesn't exist so fallacies of doctrine are accidently created.

    Reading scriptures is also one of the great ways to either get the Spirit into the class or get it stronger.

    Lastly, having students turn to and read the scriptures helps them create and reinforce the habit to turn to the scriptures.

  • Zionssuburb Kansas City, MO
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    Why not make this the style for adults as well.. nothing, nothing, in our manuals teaches us to plan lessons other than how the lessons are planned for the youth...

    For crying out loud teachers... READ the INTRO to the SS manual. There is TOO much content to teach on any given Sunday, pick what best fits your audience.... Never interrupt a good discussion to get back to something you've planned to present... It's not just the youth that are wanting more for lessons on Sunday.

  • bountifulmomofsix BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    You have some very lucky youth in your class! I think that it applies well to family home evening or Sunday family time as well.