Utah Jazz suffer home heartbreaker, fall to Boston Celtics in OT

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  • Bigpics West Haven, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    The Jazz starters - without a quality point who can score - are all talented, but lack the ability to "take it to" and "break down" other teams at the beginnings of 1st and 3rd quarters. If the Jazz are still committed to Gordon coming off the bench (and I like seeing him at the 2 position as he has range that almost goes from 1 to 3), I'd rather, say, see Carroll start with that Junk Yard Dog 'tude from minute one, and bring Marvin in with the young hustlers who create enough chaos to get him the ball where he can drop some 3's and be a useful part of the "change the mo" crew (and he's good enough on D to really be effective against another 2nd team..

    And if Mo's still 2 weeks out, since Foy's got some 1 skills, isn't it about time to try starting Burks at the 1 spot? Good enough to finish = good enough to start.

    Burks + Carroll have more aggression and scoring skills between them than Marvin + either backup point on the team.

    But this schizophrenic team is less and less compelling to watch careening unpredictably between brilliance and utter ineptness...

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    Ty was out-coached in this game.

    Hayward was gassed in the 4th. A couple of minutes on the bench would have helped him in the end.

    Carroll was getting killed by Pierce. A change of pace to Marvin might have thrown Pierce off his game a little.

    Burks struggled several time getting the team into its offense. Two minute with Tinsley or Watson might have given Boston a different look.

    Burks, Hayward and Foye have been a good combination. Never saw it.

    Why no substitutions after the middle of the fourth. Doesn't Ty understand he has twelve players available for the whole game; not just the first 3 1/2 quarters? Doesn't he know you can pull a player and then put him back in after a rest?

    Does he freeze late in the game? Is he stubborn? Is he dumb? Is a worn out Hayward, Carroll, and Burks really better than a fresh Foye, Marvin, and Watson/Tinsley?

    I've seen Ty lose several games over the last couple of years. I've never seen him win one.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 26, 2013 3:49 p.m.


    i agree with you...Corbin should have commit to the young core of the team...and should have done that since day 1...the reason guys from other teams improve a lot...like Greg Monroe...Cousins...Paul George...Chandler Parsons...because the coach has confidence in them...and they start them..and they get minutes...even if they had a bad game...Kevin Durant's first season isnt a great one...he shot well under 40%...but do you think the coached gave up on him? No...because those mistakes that he made...fueled his desire to get even better..we have guys that would practice hard...would have a great game...and in the next game..corbin would play them for 5 - 10 mins...that's their reward for having a great game...it will make you think...does this team really want me here?....and if Burks Hayward Favors and Kanter...starts to think that way...the future wont be so bright

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Feb. 26, 2013 2:07 p.m.


    Why didn't the Jazz re-sign Millsap and Jefferson last summer? Because Millsap has already stated he wanted to test free agency to see what he is worth. In Jefferson's case, he has said he likes where the Jazz are headed, but has also talked about liking Boston. So, it would seem, both want to test free agency's waters.

    Will they be able to re-sign both? In my opinion, no. The Jazz can't re-sign both Al and Paul without seriously jeopardizing their ability to re-sign Favors and Kanter when their contracts are up.

    Of the two (Millsap and Jefferson) I think it's likelier the Jazz will try and keep Big Al and let Paul go. That would allow them to front load Jefferson's contract, in order to keep him, and reduce it in later years when Favors and Kanter's contracts come due.

    And yes, the Jazz do consider Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks and Carroll the future. The fact that they were the ones playing at the end of the Boston game only solidifies my opinion on that.

    Feb. 26, 2013 12:38 p.m.

    Alright, none of you bit...

    But, seriously, why didn't the Jazz sign (last Summer) or move one or both of their bigs in order to get something in return? I can almost guarantee you Houston will offer Jefferson or Millsap (maybe both) a big contract in July.

    Is it because they're convinced Favors and Kanter are the future? Both are bright prospects but, still, you cannot let two quality big men walk for nothing...

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 26, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    Jefferson is the best scoring center in the NBA for a reason. Unfortunately, that is because he is taking 10-15 ft jumpshots for which he is out of rebounding position. That is great if he is hot, but if he misses. Burks appears to be worth a shot at point guard. He is young, versatile, and athletic. The Jazz need to make some tough decisions. The best answer is to cut Jefferson and Millsap loose and use the cap room. We'll see how Mo does when he returns. Ten expiring contracts mean a lot of decision making. Favors and Kanter have to play. Carroll from Mizzou is playing his heart out. He has to stay.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    Patience people. Lindsey will lead us to better days. Yeah and I have some prime swamp land for sale.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    I appreciate your comments and I agree Corbin has been giving more minutes lately to Burks and Hayward and hopefully he will stick with that when Mo Williams comes back. But yes, I am saying he should be starting and giving more minutes to all our young lotto picks. Our starters put us in a hole every game, and again in the 3rd quarter when they start the 2nd half. If the Jazz resign Millsap and Jefferson we are not going to have the money to resign the young guns in the next couple of years when their rookie contracts expire. We've seen what this team can do with Jefferson and Millsap and most fans are not satisfied with barely making the playoffs. Will things get better starting the young bucks? I don't know for sure but if they can take us to higher levels down the road I'm all for putting that plan into action sooner rather than later.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Hrmmm, Lakers are surging and now it seems the Jazz will slump...not a good way to finish the season!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    I know the Jazz are a small market team, but they need to take the risk and make moves to improve. In the long run mediocrity is a risk too.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 26, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    36--33 and 26. Those were the minutes played by Hayward, Burks and Carroll last night. In other words Amerivet--they played--quite a bit. And they finished the game. Unless you are saying that only by starting them will we see their true greatness emerge, I have to disagree. I'm more concerned with who finishes the game. I am fine with Jefferson, Milsap, Hayward, Carrol (or Favors) and Burks being on the floor in crunch time. I've seen Big Al and Paul being interviewed at the end of many wins and I think there's a reason for that and for why most announcers call Al the best scoring center in the NBA. When Burks, Hayward, Favors, Carroll and Kanter earn more minutes, they get them (note Hayward and Burks especially). But most of the increased minutes will happen when they simply have to be kept in during the final minutes of a game. As disappointing as this young team has been at times (last night WAS heartbreaking--) I think Corbins handling of Hayward and Burks especially, has been spot on.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    I guess I'm not quite done:)
    Some would label me, and others with similar comments as "bad mouth know it all Jazz fans". I resemble that remark. But I blame the Jazz for making me a fan that demands a lot from the team. In my formative years the Jazz had an owner that cared, a tough no nonsense coach that cared, and players that played their behinds off every night. And yes, I became spoiled and continue to expect that even though all those that made me the way I am are no longer with the club (well, Hornacek is an assistant coach). So please try to put up with me if you can because it's not my fault I am this way!!

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    As I continue there is at least one other comment posted so that's good.

    The pregame show last night showed that the Jazz have the 8th hardest schedule remaining and the Rockets and Lakers both have much easier remaining schedules, so with another home loss last night it's looking like the Jazz won't even make the playoffs at all this year. If the plan after not making any trades is to let either Millsap or Jefferson or both walk in the off season to free up cap space, why do we keep playing them over Favors and Kanter who represent the future?

    Our young core and Carroll continue fighting back in games after the starters put us behind in the 1st and 3rd quarters? Is Corbin not watching the games?

    Coach, stop trying to get some value out of the expensive players on the team and start playing the guys that give the best effort and need to be developed for the future of the franchise. Then use that cap space in the off season to build around the young core of this team!

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    Let me guess (I didn't watch): The article reports that the young guys came out and gave a 13-2 run. So Coach Corbin took them all out except Hayward and Milsap and Jefferson came out and lost the game. This seems to be a reoccurring pattern for Coach Corbin. He's a good coach, but he is one of the worst of all time when it comes to substitutions down the stretch. My suggestion: Coach play the guy(s) with the hot hand. Jefferson with only 15 points is a substandard night (he's supposed to be 20+ and 10). Keep the young guns in. If the starters aren't getting it done, let the guys that are win the game.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Feb. 26, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    As I type this there has been 1 comment submitted so far, and that by a Rockets fan. There may be other comments still being reviewed that haven't posted yet but it is a sign of the times. In years past there would often be at least 30 comments after most games and now there are much fewer and I fear it's another warning pointing to a fan base that is losing interest (along with declining attendance at games as reported yesterday). Well, I have enough to say that I will probably have to submit 2 comments today because of the 200 word limit.

    First, so the anticipated change to the starting lineup turned out to be putting in Watson, who does not score much for Tinsley, who also is not a scorer. Corbin also defended Marvin Williams because of the "other things he does on the floor". That's just genius, coach. And the sad thing is Marvin had one of his rare double digit scoring games last night that will even solidify Corbin's bad decision to play him at all.

    I'm running into the word limit so I'll be back.

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    Feb. 26, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    The Jazz guards need to learn that forcing 3-point scuds (unguided missiles) at the beginning and particularly at the end of games at crunch time is a loosing proposition- low probabilities of success, particularly on tired legs. Their strength is down low where the bigs have a far higher chance of getting fouled or scoring.

    Feb. 26, 2013 7:38 a.m.