Declining attendance isn't big worry to Jazz

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  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    "... a very good entertainment package..."

    Really? An afternoon at the movies is "a good entertainment package".

    And a heck of a lot cheaper.

    If Jazz management expect to charge a family $700 to attend a game they better be committed to winning an NBA title... which of course we know they are not.

    When you realize that Jazz management is not committed to winning an NBA title, the Jazz will fall to the appropriate relevance in your life.

    I haven't watched a Jazz game in decades and I'm all the better for it.

  • pac12utah WJ, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    Seems to me this is more about the overall fan disinterest in watching lazy gazillionaires than just locals unhappy with the Jazz. Years ago with Malone and Stockton the league was headed down this very same path but Utah wasn't mainly die to Karl, John and Jerry (maybe Larry too). But now that those 4 are all gone from the Jazz, we have joined the rest of the league and find it very hard to appreciate the lack of heart, hustle and hard play every game. Most of us fans work hard for our money and won't waste very much of it on their spoiled selves when we can spend our limited entertainment money elsewhere. Rigby if you're not worried you should be....trends are hard to stop once they get going. Fans could relate to Larry, Jerry, John and Karl......hard to relate to these spoiled whiners you call the Jazz.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Feb. 25, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    its also an influence that the NBA competition format itself is ultra-lame. 82 game regular season just to eliminate half of the teams? Talk about overkill. For an 82 game regular season they need to only let 8 teams in the playoffs. Or keep 16 but cut the number of regular season games to 50.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 25, 2013 4:48 p.m.

    If i was a great lebron...and i want to cement my legacy in the game...i would come to Utah...own the team...and win a championship with no qualms just focus and team play...but im not as good as only 5'8 mixed japanese guy from fine with a league pass and watch the game from my TV...

  • Ben H Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    It was the great Yogi Berra who said, "If people don't want to come to the ball park, how are you going to stop them?"

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    For the Jazz front office who may read this. I am a 43 year old married male of four kids who grew up watching the Jazz. My brother-in-law had a TV in the church during their reception where we watched Stockton hit "the shot". A couple of reasons I don't watch the Jazz anymore. First, can't afford it. The last Jazz game I attended was a Jr. Jazz free ticket 5 years ago. Tickets, parking, a $5 hotdog unreasonable for a family of 4. Second, I can't watch the games on TV anymore. I realize I may be the last person on the planet to still have over-the-air TV, but when the Jazz removed the last remaining games on KJZZ, my sons and I could no longer watch. My sons now,17,14,11, now think basketball is boring and would rather watch something else on TV. You have lost some of the younger generation. Third, no superstars. Who are we suppose to get excited about watching? Fourth. Hip-Hop Gangster league. Finally, I have tried RSL and my family and I love it. I would get their season tickets first.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    Malone held Miller hostage every three to four years. He didn't leave, but he threatened to leave every other year. He didn't get the payday he wanted, (and he could have got it elsewhere). Larry had to make up for it with business ventures. This team will have money to spend next summer, getting someone to come to SLC is the problem.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Feb. 25, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    We may have the most boring starting five in the league. The last bit of excitement went out of the team when management did not bring back Fes. Fes was wild and erratic, but he got the crowd into it, and he was an interesting character off the court. It might be worth a league minimum salary to have someone like Fes on the team as a matter of policy, for entertainment value.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    In the Stockton and Malone days Larry Miller talked about contending for a title and the fans bought into it and showed up for the games. Now management talks about having a bunch of great guys that get along with each other but there is no talk about contending for a title. Realistic fans see this team as a possible 8th playoff seed with a first round exit and they don't want to pay $175 to see a bunch of good guys. You can see a buch of good guys at Sunday School! This organization better wake up and smell the coffee (not at Sunday School) and show they want to contend for a title again. The organization needs to get behind an experienced head coach and support him to play the players that will improve the future of the team even if it means taking a step back first. We need to develop our young lottery picks!!!

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    Feb. 25, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    may i suggest a few million dollars less on the payroll and cutt ticket prices. why would anybody pay a week's wages to watch a game were they make 8 to 10 million a year? main question is why would they pay someoneup to 20 mil a year to play baskettball. the people with important jobs make nothing.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    I think as a fan when we care more about the team than the players do, there lies the problem.

    D Will had a foot out the door, Boozer had a foot out the door. Malone and Stockton put the jersey on with pride. In interviews they frequently mentioned playing "Jazz basketball." They considered themselves Jazz men. It seemed that Williams and Boozer were collecting a check, winning a few games and waiting to get to a bigger stage.

    When I feel players are invested in really winning and going for a championship run, I think the Jazz will get back to selling out games. I am a Jazz fan through and through, and I continue to support the team and go to games when I can. I don't blame season ticket holders who think they can spend their money better elsewhere though....

  • JT4 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Yep. Give me hard-working players like Malone and Stockton, who DO NOT have tattoos and me-first attitudes, and I will probably start liking the Jazz/NBA again. But are there enough players like that these days? I don't know because I have stopped following the league.

    For those of you who are discounting MLS, I am guessing you don't have kids that play soccer. No, it's not La Liga or EPL, but the game is usually pretty good. RSL certainly had some problems to fix last year, but overall they have put out a reasonably exciting product--not bad when you consider their stars make six figures rather than eight figures. My soccer-playing son and I thoroughly enjoy watching MLS together.

  • LouisD Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 25, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Jazz need to adopt the Walter O'Malley (Dodgers) Rule, never leave a seat empty. You ALWAYS price always to fill. An empty seat returns Zero. A full seat means the sale of popcorn, peanuts and cracker jacks...concessions and souvenirs in our day. It also means more parking , more pre-game revenue for downtown merchants and restaurants. Whenever I see an "empty seat" no matter what the product is doing on the court or field, I think, there is an idiot business manager that doesn't know what he's doing and has priced the revenue out of the building into some competitors pocket.

    For all the Ticket-Business Managers out there that get wind of this comment. Yes you north-end of a south-bound donkey. I MEAN YOU! In Las Vegas, nothing goes empty because the concession and souvenir sales are mostly profit. The seat costs close to zero once it is already there. Walter's rule of business, not my genius. But I am smart enough to know he was right.

    L. E. Deaux
    Sports Forum West
    FWAA 1982-Present

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin

    Soccer has never been as exciting to watch as basketball in this country, never has been, never will be. I have been to one game, it was an ok experience, but can't measure up to a Jazz game.

    I enjoy the World Cup when the World's best are playing, but that's the extent of soccer I will watch and many of us out there.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin, that will never happen.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    @BRuss: You have it exactly right. This starting five is boring to watch, your best bet is to DVR the game and watch it at home so you can fast forward through the boring parts (those being when the starters are all in the lineup). Corbin's game plan is to get the ball into Big Al's hands on most play sequences and that's when the boredom sets in.

    You may not be concerned Rigsby but you better start getting concerned. Fans have supported the Jazz even when they had the bad seasons but now your seeing a lot of empty seats when they are going good. They fans are speaking out and you need to be very serious about paying heed to what their saying.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Feb. 25, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    For the many disgruntled Jazz fans, may I suggest giving Real Salt Lake a try? Tickets are 1/4 the price of Jazz games, RSL has legitimate stars (as opposed to nothing but a bunch of guys other teams didn't want), and their team is replete with guys who want to be here and play for the team.

    Quite a few people have discovered this already, which is why RSL now has higher average attendance than the Jazz.

    Home opener is 3/16.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    We live 120 miles south of Salt Lake and used to attend 8 to 10 games a year. We used to love going to the games but the last two years we have been very disappointed in the style of play and the coaching. The last two years we've been to 2 games total. For us it's hard to pay that kind of money to watch a team that doesn't even have their best players on the floor. The Big Al style of hogging the ball on offense and then coasting on defense is hard to watch. We don't want to pay to see Corbin play favoritism to aging washed up vetrans while the young talented lotto players ride the pine. We believe that defense is a big part of the game and Corbins starters are not putting the effort in on the defensive end either.
    When the Core 4 finally get to start or Corbin is replaced then we will be back to the solutions.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    Funny some of the comments here. I think I will just sit on my hands and behave myself.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 25, 2013 7:24 a.m.

    The real issue is the lack of "Malone and Stockton" and as quoted the "hip hop culture". Also using numbers, that means that 40% corporate seating translates to about 8000 seats which may or may not be filled. The "used car salesman" who built the team put his body and soul into the team and was rewarded with a charismatic result. Klinko and Okur were charismatic as was D-Will. They now have ten "hired guns" whose contracts are expiring with Favors, Kanter, and Hayward ready to jump ship behind them. This is an untenable situation with 175.00 seats and 5.00 peanuts. Kobe will make 30 mill next year. AJ makes 15 and wants more while MSap wants to double his 8mill. This is called insanity. The fans are jumping on the nearest bus to Little League games with their kids. Corporate is using tv revenue to buy tickets. The answer is to rent a high school gym and to televise the game world wide. EnergySolutions Arena could then be used to alleviate the problem with the Utah prison system.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 3:29 a.m.

    Quit making excuses Rigby. You just don't have a very good team is the reason!!