The money question: Utah tries to make sense of sequestration

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  • Mark Lees PROVO, UT
    Feb. 24, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    Sequestration doesn't mean cuts. They are only a slow down in the growth of the budget. The government uses base-line budgeting. That means that each year the government gets the same amount as the previous year. No increase in the budget would be considered a cut. But each agency is going to get the same amount as last. There just won't be any growth.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 24, 2013 10:54 a.m.

    "According to CBO’s estimates, the tax and spending policies that will be in effect under current law (sequestration) will reduce the federal budget deficit by 5.1 percent of GDP between calendar years 2012 and 2013.

    Under those fiscal conditions, which will occur under current law, growth in real (inflation-adjusted) GDP in calendar year 2013 will be just 0.5 percent, CBO expects—with the economy projected to contract at an annual rate of 1.3 percent in the first half of the year and expand at an annual rate of 2.3 percent in the second half. Given the pattern of past recessions as identified
    by the National Bureau of Economic Research, such a contraction in output in the first half of 2013 would probably be judged to be a recession."

    To sum it up, the CBO projects that sequestration will result in a recession.

    We'll just follow the EU's lead--austerity followed by a longer and deeper recession!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 24, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Cut, cut, cut. But don't do it here.

    However, there are things we have done to improve life for ALL Americans that certainly should not be cut. Meals on wheels is one of those, Bryan. All I can say to you is wait. Someday you will need help from someone. Let's hope your family or your favorite charity is willing and ready to help. Too often they are not or cannot.

  • Bryan Syracuse, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    For decades the Feds have been spending money that they (i.e. we, the American taxpayers) don't have. This needs to stop. If military spending must be cut, then make the cuts. The local economy can and must adapt. If cuts to small airports must me made, make the cuts. As far as Meals on Wheels, I don't know why the Federal government has its hand in that at all. That seems to be a service that the state should cover, if they can afford it and its populace are willing to foot the bill for the entitlement. Otherwise, it should be up to charities and families to feed the elderly.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    This is just another ploy to put fear and trepidation into people's hearts and souls. When families have economic problems there is a process to get out of that situation. It is change the budget process, spend less or increase the income, or unique for government both would be great. There have always been times of feast and famine.

    Politicians blame the other politicians that they are the ones that brought the grim reaper. When those people point the finger, they have three pointing at themselves, which they never want to think about. We live in a world where fear abounds so even politicians try to highlight that even more as the fear comes from the other party, the other state, or the other government. It never comes from the person that is pointing.

    We have a government that is not working because we elected the same people to keep us in the conundrum for another two to four years. We don't want change, many times, but that may be the biggest fear people have is change.

    People in elected offices kept their jobs, salaries and frequent flyer miles. Principles have not improved over time, just rhetoric.

  • AZgrandma Pomerene, AZ
    Feb. 23, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    Why not have everyone get paid the way teachers do? They get paid for their contracted days of work, which in AZ is 185 days. When we have holidays off such as MLK Day and President's Day, we do not get paid for them. We do not have "vacation pay". We do get 10 paid sick leave days and 3 personal days a year. Some complain we do get 1 week fall break, 2 weeks winter break and 1 week spring break and, of course, June and July off from teaching. We sure do -- about 14 weeks all without being paid. And where is state and federal funding being cut -- education!!!!! So we haven't had a pay raise in 3 years but our taxes taken out (Soc Sec anyone?), insurance premiums (Obamacare anyone?) are going up. Just have no sympathy for their plight.

    Feb. 23, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    Civilian employees at Hill Air Force Base would NOT have to take a pay cut - IF they used one day annual vacation per week that is not a Federal Holiday. Civil Service has a VERY generous leave program with 10 paid Federal Holidays, 13 days minimum annual leave ( 20 days after 3 years and 26 after 15 years ) and 13 days Sick Leave earned per year.

    IF Civil Service must take one day off per week, why not apply the same to the Postal Service employees (to include bloated management persons) and a 20 % pay cut for all Senators, Congressmen, and ALL their assistants?

    Also cut ALL foreign aid by 20 % AND bring all the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    What we see is budget cuts are good - as long as they happen to the other guy. When it happens in your own backyard everyone suddenly thinks it may not be such a great idea after all. Our elected officials have strongly pushed for fed budget cuts. Yet, they are hypocritically fighting to keep as much money at HAFB as possible. They can't have it both ways.

  • MyChildrensKeeper Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 4:19 a.m.

    This might be a good time to bring up this plan of relocating the state prison just to develop the 700 acres it sits on with public funding. Perhaps with the loss half a billion dollars and half of the state budget would be a good time to scrap this plan for a while or until some one who wants the land to steps up and pay the state for relocating the prison rather than make the taxpayers face another 50 years of tax bonds to pay for it.

    The party is over, loss of high paid jogs, unemployment and homes defaulting on loans is a warning of the fragile and fake Utah economy.

    The state(UDOT) had non member of their contractor consortium in ALEC bid on state road contract and the $13 Mil was a bribe by UDOT CEO (members of ALEC), not the state government, to force this 2nd contractor to withdraw his bid.

    We thought political fraud had been abolished but ALEC has stepped in as the new international Mob of criminal organizations writing state laws for criminal profiteering. Utah education is highly involved in Mob run criminal contractor fraud in feed the children scams.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 4:01 a.m.

    Low information outcries have no merit and our Governor Herbert was given fair warning from our congressmen in Washington that he better start being more conservative in his social and non essential government services like welfare, college education funding, health care, UTA, TRAX, RDA development with fraudulent policy manipulation of funds.

    Advanced fair warning from our Washington representatives in military downsize and thousands of civilian job cuts, but the Governors lack of common sense leadership has put Utah tax payers and economy on predictable collapse.

    Utah health care exchange is at risk to collapse because our legislators misappropriated Medicaid and Medicare through organized state tax lending scam to recover (confiscate) and recycle medicaid spending on entitled registered americans, plus non insured health care costs.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Feb. 22, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    Even with these so called cuts the government will be spending 15 billion more this year than last year. Wish I could do that. I wonder if these people still have a defined retirement plan. That is where I would cut. Freeze everyone's retirement. Put them on a 401k plan. Just like us normal civilians. But start with our politicains who put us in this mess. They need the same medical plans as the rest of us.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Feb. 22, 2013 9:49 p.m.

    Why is it that government, whether Federal or State, always talk about the "dire" consequences to essential programs that will result from cuts in the budget?

    85 Billion dollars is a miniscule cut in comparison to the 3.6 Trillion dollars the government spent in 2012.

    It would be like a person who makes $36,000 per year cutting out $85.00 from their budget for the entire year. That's not much of a sacrifice. It's about the cost of date where a couple buys a decent dinner and movie tickets.

    In 2012, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, estimated that there is somewhere between $60 and $90 billion in fraud in Medicare and a similar amount in Medicaid. And yet, the Federal government insists it will have to cut essential services and programs?

    How about cutting out waste, graft and outright fraud before cutting essential services?

    This is not a Democrat vs Republican issue. All U.S. citizens should be concerned with eliminating the waste in government.