BYU basketball: Arizona swingman Jake Toolson commits to the Cougars

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:15 a.m.


    You need to go back and study your history. Also utah has already been "down for long", better part of a deade actually. A far longer run of futility than BYU has ever endured and guess what? That futility is still going on with no real end in sight.


  • Irrelevant Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Did you know that there's no such thing as a BCS basketball conference? That whole prestigious BCS only applies to football, good attempt though.

    I'm excited for BYU's future!!

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:32 p.m.

    They still cannot stop the good teams from scoring. Defense is a foreign concept to the cougars. Coach should pattern the program after Gonzaga and Indiana. Great big men who can defend and bang inside. This team is made up to score from the perimeter but they are terrible from the 3 line, and Brandon is all alone trying to score and defend from the inside. He has been in foul troublae all year because he is alone on that island. Just watch how Gonzaga's bigs are going to dominate again, and their guards will out pass and out defend at the 3 line. Ditto, the Gaels. It will not be pretty.

  • Univutes Salt Lake City , UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    How quickly people forget. BYU was the laughingstock of college basketball for quite a few years...and it wasn't that long ago...Everything in college sports is cyclical and Utah will not stay down for long. I would let the last few years sink in and enjoy them as much as you can, because the future will not resemble the past in any way shape or form...

    Also, to take some of your logic, I think it would out of place for anyone from happy valley to criticize Utah's football next year, being that we have beaten the pussy cats three years in a row and 8 of 11...Just sayin!

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    Mika is 6'10, Dastrup and Nixon Might be 6'10 by the time they stop growing.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    Mika is 6'10, and Datrup and Nixon Might be 6"10 by the time they stop growing.

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    Utah recruiters: "Don't you want to come and run around for four years in this inversion, breathing in icy-cold, polluted air from all across the valley?"
    Prospective Player: "Mmmm...what was the number for the coach at USC again?"

    Luckily BYU gets away with it because we get the majority of top LDS recruits. Plus we get guys like Carlino, Winder, Loyd Jr., etc. who realize that Dave Rose is the man and it would be foolish not to play for him.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    CougFaninTexas, you make an excellent point. Why would a Cougar team playing with the offensive philosophy that Dave Rose prefers want a lumbering, slow, 7'2" giant in the middle? How would such a player be able to keep up with the transition offense that BYU prefers? And if the offense aggressive enough that neutralizes the impact of a slow giant on the other team, who would likewise struggle to keep up. The nice thing about Davies is that he is so mobile. So is Mika. I'm sure that the younger Hartsock will play much like his older brother, who seemed to do very well in this system.

    If BYU ever becomes a half-court, grind-it-out team, they will need to pursue the Shaqs of the world. But bigs that can run the floor are a rare commodity. People who are bummed because we don't have multiples remind me of those who can't believe Holmoe hasn't called Ty Detmer and Andy Reid to their callings. These things are a two-way street. The recruit has to want to come here.

  • AZ i see it GILBERT, AZ
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    Awesome, Jake! Here is one loyal Ute who will be cheering you loud & proud!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    ETB - I know you think your sarcasm is funny, but the only thing you missed is the year. Most of these kids are going on missions, but the Cougs are putting together a team that has a legit shot at Final Four in 2017 or 2018, not 2014.

    Sigmund - Looking for a big man, you're going to like Isaac Nielson in 2014. He's 6'10". The problem with a lot of 7 footers is they cannont run the floor and if they can't keep up, it slows Rose's entire offense down. Mika, Hartsock, Worthington and Shaw aren't too shabby either, but they are all about 6'8" or 6'9".

    Toolson is a another great pick-up. If the Cougs can also pick-up Brekkott Chapman and Payton Dastrup, I will be dreaming about NC. Toolson's commitment increases the probability that Dastrup will commit. The two are good friends and have talked about playing together in college.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    @ bballjunkie- Yeah. Wish there were other options to get caught up on my Cougs from afar. But, I am limited to DN (which I started reading when the kids hit Provo) and the Trib. Don't get me started on the Herald. Aren't they an off-shoot of the Daily Universe? I like my Cougs, but for a paper with great tradition and longevity, I'm just suprised at how limited the sports dept is. They're pretty easy pickens. But, that's how deranged I am. I'll continue to read ... and question.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:32 a.m.


    I would argue the BCS is alive and kicking in both football and basketball, and will continue to be.

    Utah, in yes another down year, has FOUR better wins than your best win all season. Why do we have FOUR?

    Our prestigious Pac 12 membership. Why don't you have FOUR better wins than we do, even though you have more wins?

    Your Weak Cost Conference membership.

    How many schools play Division 1 basketball? Around 300.
    How many BCS schools are there? Around 60 I believe.

    With those figures, why isn't only 1 in 5 Top 25 teams a "BCS school"?

    I just counted of the 25 top 25 schools, 18 are "BCS Schools"

    As you can see, being a BCS school means a great deal, in football, basketball, gymnastics, baseball, research,,,etc.

    You are either a BCS school or you arent.

    We are.

    You arent.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:19 a.m.


    I'm happy to oblige. He has one(out of 12) Pac 12 offers, 1 WAC offer in Utah State, and 2 WCC offers.

    What exactly are you pumped about?

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    Don't ever find yourself using the term "BCS" when speaking on Basketball.
    There are no mid-majors in basketball.
    Don't play into their phony caste system game.

  • SigmundF Beaverton, OR
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:37 a.m.

    BYU needs to recruit some quality BIGs. Taller than 6'9". Where are these recruits? We always get beaten by teams with quality tall timber.

    Feb. 20, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    I'm still waiting for Chris B.'s take on this...

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Anyone professing to be from Looneyville obviously could not recognize talent even if sitting in the middle of a Gina Bachauer International Piano Competition, let alone watching an NBA All-star game.

  • Snark Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    Coach Rose is compiling an epic group of players. Congratulations Jake, this will be a great experience for you. We will love to watch you play. Continue working on Dastrup; that AZ combination would dovetail nicely with the other incoming recruits.

  • mnsave Rigby, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    I have watched Jared Stutzman play (Jr. at Bonneville High School, Idaho) for the last three years. I believe he is a better shooter than anyone on BYU except for Haws and maybe Cusick (inspite of his dreadful game last night). But I really doubt he is better than the guys BYU has been committing for 2014.

    Excited for the future!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    Another awesome one. Final four by 2014.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    Remeber folks, Rose is putting together another 20 win season while missing two huge seniors, Collingsworth and Rogers. And he's playing a defensive end at center to boot. It's all good Cougar fans and it's going to get better, big time better. That's what recruits are seeing, that's why they are coming, that's we should be very, very excited.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:34 a.m.

    @So. Cal Reader
    Pretty funny how guys/gals like you want to rip on the DN. However, can't seem to stop reading it or comenting on their articles, even when they live in a place like CA. lol

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:32 a.m.

    "The future of BYU basketball is very bright."

    Scouts ranks BYU #21 in the nation, the highest of the "non-BCS" teams if you will. I think the 2014-2015 team will be extremely solid. All these new, young guys playing now and next season will be tremendous as a mainly sophomore, junior team. That being said, I've seen highlights of these recruits, especially from Lone Peak, and wow can they play. If they live up to their billing, next year will be a solid year too. BYU needs a solid center and they'd be very good. BYU will be solid for years to come! Best team from Utah hands down, and it's not even close.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:12 a.m.

    Aunt Lucy, I am so sorry that you continue to be stuck with such a poor team... I know that it's hard to root for the University in SLC when they are as bad as they are... Actually, there are not many of you left up there... I say that because the Huntsman Center always looks empty when your team plays on TV or when highlights are shown...

    I need to know though, don't you feel a little embarrassed taking verbal shots at a team that has beaten your team 11 out of the last 12 times that they have played each other? A team that has won better than 20 games 8 years in a row, been in the top 50 in RPI all year long, and has a legitimate shot at making the Playoffs for the 7th consecutive year if they can win their last three regular season games and pick up a game or two in their Conference Tourney?

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:12 a.m.

    Re: rafinsure, bballjunkie & idablu: Good follow-up on doing the additional research for the esteemed DN Sports Department to an obvious question that I had before.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 10:01 p.m.

    Utah State isn't an awful team this year. RPI of 113 isn't great, but wouldn't consider them awful. Marquee win no, but its always nice to beat all your instate competition.

    The recruiting pipeline looks to be in great shape. It'd be awesome if Dastrup joined as well.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    Not Andy Toolson's son, but may be a distant relative. Rumor is he is Danny Ainge's nephew.

  • aunt lucy Looneyville, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    I hope he's good because after watching BYU barely beat an awful Utah State team, it's obvious they need some real talent.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    He is not Andy's son. Relative but not son. Andy son is playing at Lone Peak right now.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:24 p.m.

    With all these great recruits, we should be nationally ranked every year and make deep runs in the NCAA tournament.

    Go Cougars

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    Awesome commit. Very excited for what is taking shape.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    I can't believe the Cougars were able to snag a recruit from a mighty Pac-12 school.

    Cue the comments about how he's not really that good, that Arizona St. didn't really offer him, just showed interest, etc, etc, etc.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    Great pickup for the Cougars. The future of BYU basketball is very bright.

  • rafinsure Elk Grove/U.S.A., 00
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    Is this kid former Cougar great Andy Toolson's son? If so, he comes from a great basketball pedigree. Also, Andy played with Marty Haws back in the late 80s. What a great coincidence if it stands true. The Haws and Toolson's will reunite. I'm looking forward to future seasons.