Roger Jolly"Utah is playing tough teams in the PAC, Utah played
ranked #9 Arizona last night. Tough game but they lost."Um,
congratulations on losing another game?"Utah and TCU are
learning how tough it is too play in a 'Big Boy' conference."It's better to be 3rd in the WCC, or 4th in the WAC, or 2nd in the
Big Sky, than to be 11th place in the PAC. For proof, look no further than the
current RPI and Sagarin rankings:#68/#62 BYU(19-8)#114/#109
Utah State(18-6)#117/#114 Weber State(19-5)#166/#134 Utah(11-14)Arizona dropped from #9 to #12 after their "big win" over the
Utes.#3 Gonzaga(25-2) could be #1 when they visit BYU next week.
More proof that conference isn't everything when it comes to having an
outstanding team. BYU's schedule is plenty strong enough that the Cougars
would be a Top 10 team if they were 25-2 like the Zags.For all of
your "big boy" conference chest beating, you're 25 games into the
season and the Utes have still only beaten NINE Div-1 opponents. Pathetic!
@ Down underBeing a distant third place team in the WCC does not
indicate the Cougars could compete in the PAC-12. BYU is ranked behind 6 PAC-12
teams and has been soundly beat by every top 100 team they played, save St.
Mary's. BYU would be middle of the road at best in the PAC.
Mr. Perspective,Just so you know I live in full view of the mighty PAC
10.2 and they are not that great. I regularly attend their games and have
season tickets, they are nothing special. They are just average and BYU would
be a top tier team in their league.
Can't say what the final score will be but BYU will beat USU. I don't
see it close but looking at the two teams BYU is better. But that's not a
suprise. BYU is usually better than USU in every aspect in every sport.
MyPerspectiveBYU plays in front of the pullout bleaches 6 games per
season, versus playing 17 home games in a 20,000+ seat arena with an average
attendance of around 16,000.Compare to Utah, which, except for their
game at BYU, hasn't played in front of 16,000 fans all season.Of course, to fans who are simply grasping at straws for anything that will
help them feel good about themselves, playing in front of 8,000 empty red chairs
must seem superior to playing in front of a few empty bleacher seats.How embarrassing it must have been for the PAC 10.2 to see the hundreds of
empty chairs in the lower bowl at the Huntsman for a nationally televised game
involving their best team.
MyPerspective"Winning the crown of "best college team in the
state" is not much of an achievement..."Compared to being
dubbed with the dubious distinction of being the "worst college team in the
state," winning the crown of best college team in the state is a monumental
achievement.#68 BYU#114 Utah State#117 Weber State#166 Utah
MyPerspectiveNice comment about the fold out bleachers. Too bad we
fill those poor bleachers and you definitely can't say that ;)
"Utah and TCU are learning how tough it is too play in a 'Big Boy'
conference."We're happy for U that you're learning to
be great LOSERS!If losing to PAC 10.2 teams helps you sleep better a
night than U did when the Utes were a MWC loser, knock yourself out.I'll bet you were really excited about how much tougher those losses to
Sac St and CS Northridge made the Utes?
I find it humorous Mr. Jolly that you want to criticize the Cougs when the U has
lost to Sac States and Cal Northridge on their home floor... What conference are
they in? The Big Sky? In fact, your U men lost to the very Cougs you criticize
not just once this year but they have lost 11 of 12 games over the past 7
years... The one game they did win was in OT on your team's home floor.And the Arizona Wild Cats, the cream of the PAC 10.2 Conference has not
done a whole lot better against the Cougs than the U... They have played twice
over the past 4 years and lost by a combined total of 52 points? Losing by 30
points on their home floor and 20 points on a neutral floor... And the last
beating happened in a year that these Cats made it to the elite 8
(2010-2011).I know that it has been tough to be a U B-Ball fan these
past 10 years... there aren't many of them anymore, you can see the few
that still are if you go to any of their games.
CougFaninTX" "I think everyone would agree that BYU and USU are the two
best teams this year. But who is 3rd, 4th, and 5th?" Again, who cares?
There is no one looking at USU and byu and saying, "wow, those are the two
best programs in the whole state of Utah." Get over it.Down
under: When BYU makes it to the NCAA tournament maybe then BYU will be fortunate
enough to play one of the teams representing the Pac-12. Until that day comes
byu fans will simply have to content themselves their two team league that uses
gymnasiums with fold out bleachers. Until that day comes, byu fans will only be
able to look through the glass window (that is your vantage point of the Pac-12)
and wonder, what if?...
By Jolley,Utah is playing tough teams in the mighty PAC 10.2?? Really??
Are you refering to Oregon State (13-13) losing by 18 or would it be the mighty
Stanford (15-11) losing by 31, or maybe it would be Washington State (11-15)
losing by 10. Oh wait, it must be USC (12-14) losing by 17. I think I see
your logic now. Nice try but you are the who looks silly. BYU is
having their worst year in a long time and still will be over 20 wins. Sorry
for the dose of reality amixed in with a whole lot of facts.
@MyPerspective - "Winning the crown of "best college team in the
state" is not much of an achievement Not this year anyway."U
are right, but it's better than being in the discussion for worst team in
the state. I think everyone would agree that BYU and USU are the two best teams
this year. But who is 3rd, 4th, and 5th? Could Utah beat Weber
State?Could Utah beat Utah Valley Univesity?
We will slaughter Utah State at the MC.
An article on BYU basketball, and the first comment on the boards is from a BYU
fan obsessed with the University of Utah. Some things will never change.
Both BYU and USU are having down years with important starters being out for the
season with injuries. In reality, this game should be just the first round of
CougFaninTX: Just think of the excuses Cougar Nation will have when they are
blown out by St Mary's. When all those 'ifs' you listed above
come to fruition, maybe byu will have the privilege of playing Arizona in the
NCAA dance. Then we can all see exactly what you are crowing about. Won't
that be fun?btw, Winning the crown of "best college team in the
state" is not much of an achievement Not this year anyway.
Three important games coming up. One to determine the best college
team in the state. And two games that are must wins if BYU has any
chance of dancing. I still believe if BYU wins against St Mary's and the
Zags in regular season and gets to the WCC Championship game, they will be
dancing. However, it will take three outstanding games to get to that point.I really wish the USU game could've happened in December. I'm
not really excited about playing an in-state rival and then turning around two
days later to play a must win game against St Mary's on the road.
Aggies are down three starters. That and the home court advantage make the
Cougars a big favorite tomorrow night. Sad but true. Although USU has been
playing with heart.
"Roger Jolly Maricopa, AZ@Down UnderUtah
is playing tough teams in the PAC, Utah played ranked #9 Arizona last night.
Tough game but they lost. I guess it's better to pound your
chest against teams like Portland and San Diego but get wiped out by Gonzaga.
You cannot tell me honestly that BYU wouldn't like to be playing U of A in
conference? You'd sound silly."Who have the PAC schools
beaten in non-conference play? Arizona is not all that great.Actually, BYU has wiped the floor with Arizona the last couple of times
they've played them. You sound silly.
Roger - Can you remind me how BYU did against U of A the last two times they
played them? And to think BYU would not be doing better than U and TCU in
either the PAC or Big12 is crazy. I'm not claiming we'd be on top,
but I know we wouldn't be on bottom. This is a down year for BYU, but they
are still much better than U or TCU.
@roger jolly? "See" you in the MWC soon? Like utah will be there too?
This will be a close game. I think the Aggies will barely come out on top in
@Down UnderUtah is playing tough teams in the PAC, Utah played
ranked #9 Arizona last night. Tough game but they lost. I guess
it's better to pound your chest against teams like Portland and San Diego
but get wiped out by Gonzaga. You cannot tell me honestly that BYU wouldn't
like to be playing U of A in conference? You'd sound silly.Utah
and TCU are learning how tough it is too play in a 'Big Boy'
conference. Just waiting for Boise State and BYU to join the club. Enjoy your
INDEPENDENCE and remember... you're no Notre Dame. See you in the MWC
Indy crimson is still in his PAC 10.2 dream world where three wins make a
season.BYU by 15, easily.
Aggies by 8-10...
This game would have been far more interesting if it had been played on its
original date. Both BYU and USU have had some tough luck in the past month or
With all that Coach Rose has been through, his comment that some things in life
are more important than basketball has greater meaning.
This will be a nice warm up before St Marys. Beats playing that last place
doormat of a team 50 miles to the north.