Bill snuffing out smoking in cars with children passes House

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  • jonik Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 13, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    It is dangerous to force drivers, especially with kids aboard, to go Cold Turkey. Withdrawal causes distraction, decreased alertness, irritation (road rage?) and sleepiness.
    Civil rights are endangered by this added excuse for police to use "probable cause" to stop and search those with, say, lollypops, toothpicks, or unlit cigarettes in their mouths.
    Young people will need ID to prove they are old enough to survive Environmental Tobacco Smoke. If the law is based on "tobacco" language, note that any number of brands may contain zero tobacco, and that plain tobacco itself does not seem to have been studied yet to justify any bans. "Studies" fail to qualify “tobacco”. Could be fake tobacco or pesticide-contaminated tobacco for all we know.
    Has even one child been diagnosed as harmed by "ETS" to justify the law? If there was, we’d surely have a "Billy's (or Becky’s…) Law".
    “Kid-protecting” legislators permit child-damaging industrial chemicals (pesticides, dioxins, etc.) in cigarettes, with no specific warning. Why? Money?
    Officials blame and prosecute the victims but protectively ignore the perpetrators of multi-decade crimes of mass poisoning, and mass experimentation without informed consent.
    Search "Fauxbacco" for references.

  • OlderGreg USA, CA
    Feb. 12, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    When I quit seeing red on the Utah air quality maps, then perhaps this particular item might be worth discussing. Sorry guys -- you are swatting a horsefly when Count Dracula is in the room.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 12:38 p.m.

    The children of clueless smokers will thank the
    legislature for this.

  • SUNNY ALL DAY Saint George, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 9:57 a.m.


  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    I have seen mothers who were smoking with children in their cars and the windows rolled up.

    Its good to see the legislature may do the right thing and allows police to give a warning and then actual tickets to people who do this.

    Yes sometimes government can be the solution.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Feb. 12, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    Ironic --

    We worry about the so few children breathing smoke from tobacco in cars,
    Utah doesn't seem the least bit concerned about 100% of all the children breathing the smog in the Valley.

    Clearly only a Word of Wisdom issue,
    and not a genuine health issue.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 6:49 a.m.

    While I agree that smoking is bad in any instance, I find it funny that the politicians in Utah don't have problems with limiting "smokers rights", yet will go out of their way to protect the rights of groups they agree with on social and political issues (abortion, guns, etc...)

    The same politicians claim to 'fight Washington' yet act the exact same as the Washington politicians within their own districts at home!

    Again... I believe smoking in any instance is bad, that's why I choose not to do it.

  • Danny Chipman Lehi, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    Your rights stop where mine begin, or in this case, where the rights of children who cannot defend themselves against a vice that has been concretely proven to put their health and lives in jeopardy, begin.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:51 p.m.

    **'Study says coal burning in Utah kills 202 a year' - AP - Published by DSNews – 10/19/10

    **'EPA inventory shows Utah's sources of greenhouse gas' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - 02/05/13 - Published by the Deseret News

    This is selective legislation.

    Remove a persons free agency to do what they want, in their own property feigning concern for children due to smoking...

    Utah retains the title with the most toxic air quality in the nation.

    ** ‘Studies link air pollution to increased risk of strokes and dementia’ – by Amy Joi O’Donoghue – Deseret news – 02/15/12

    **'Northern Utah's air is the worst in the nation' - KSL - 01/11/10

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 8:45 p.m.

    Yes where does the state of Utah continue or stop in its efforts to protect children from their parents?

    Violence on television and movies?
    Fast foods and restaurants?
    Motorcycle helmets?
    Riding in the back of pickup trucks?
    Not reading to their kids and not making sure they do their homework?
    Making sure they don't leave home wearing gang colors to school?
    Locking up the beer and prescription drugs at home?
    Not making sure their kids or themselves get counseling when children begin to act out in school or at home, hitting their siblings, breaking or destroying property, stealing stuff, setting play fires at home?
    Allowing premarital sex without birth control?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    While I certainly don't think any RESPONSIBLE adult should smoke in a car with children, I think this whole thing is funny as heck.

    Once again, we have members of the political party that screams and yells and yowls and howls about "government interference" in lives of Americans -- and states.

    They whimper and whine about such things as environmental protections, health care advances, and Federal "control" of our state and taxes.

    Yet these same people are preparing to invade the private vehicles of countless of their fellow citizens. I guess it makes about as much sense as most anything else the do around here.

    I think there's a word for this -- and it begins with the letter H.