BYU basketball: San Francisco's red-hot shooting buries the stunned Cougars

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  • SpartyinUtah Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 10:43 p.m.

    Cris B

    Everyone that knows basketball, regardless if they are in a "big" or mid-major conference, knows the Dons. I think by insulting them, you are either showing your youth or your incredible ignorance. The Dons won 2 national championships with Bill Russell. Bill Russell went on to win 11 NBA championships (some as a player coach), an Olympic Gold medal and is one of the best centers to have ever played the game. USF has a tremendous legacy and everyone that knows anything about basketball knows the Dons. People also know the WCC due to the success of Gonzaga and St. Mary's.

    That said, BYU is not playing good basketball and deserves some criticism. Just don't be so incredibly stupid about the criticism you give.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Feb. 11, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    I don't think we are giving San Fran its due. They could not miss from the 3 or in the 2nd half, and BYU went for prayer layups and some off balance shots. I went through all the scores from Saturday and I didn't see anyone else score 60 in a half. They would have beaten nearly anyone in the country with that kind of shooting. Got to give them credit...they were just on fire and could not be stopped. However, I don't know why they didn't defend the 3 better when they were so hot. They were left open all the time. Really poor zone from the 3.

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:06 p.m.

    How about losing at home by 20 to a PAC 10.2 nobody? Did you forget that lose already??

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:15 p.m.


    re: BYU vs San Francisco - 33 and counting (about a third from Utah fans)

    re: Utah at Oregon - 4

    Even Utah fans are more interested in BYU basketball than in Utah basketball.

    Sad, for Utah, but true.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    Gosh another game ruined by horrible refs who hate us.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:46 p.m.


    Nothing like a Utah troll pretending to be a BYU fan, so he can whine about BYU fans making fun of his own team.

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Nothing like making fun of Utah for losing to bad teams and then tripping over ourselves and face planting. I guess we had this coming.

    Go Cougars!

  • Braineater000 ALPINE, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Don't kid yourself. Nothing about Ute basketball is respectable.

  • fireonthemtn Reno, NV
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    This team has taken on the petulant attitude that has been instilled in the program by Dave Rose.Stop complaining about officiating, exhibit some mental toughness and class and don't expect every call to go your way.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    Every team goes through a rebuilding period every few years. The Florida Gators won two NCAA titles, then played in the NIT the next two years. Now they're back on top of the SEC looking like an NCAA title contender again. It happens.

    The only thing surprising for BYU is that this happened during Davies' senior season.

    I'm confident that Rose with added talent will have the Cougars back in the Big Dance next year. With better scoring balance, Carlino can become more of a distributor and not have to worry about scoring so much.

    Feb. 10, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    Well, I packed my family into the car, traveled down to BYU for the day, took the kids to the BYU Bookstore, bought them a few souvenirs, showed them around campus (since they had never been there), and then ate some good eats at a local restaurant. We were going to top the night off by watching the men's b-ball team dispatch the Dons. Who would have thought that we were at the wrong game? After that pathetic showing in the MC, I told my wife we should have gone to the men's volleyball game instead.

    If the team keeps playing like this (b-ball or football), I don't see many other trips to Provo in the near future. Maybe I can get my kids interested in volleyball instead.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    I think Cougar fans need to settle down a bit. Last night's game changed nothing in my opinion. An at large bid was highly unlikely, especially with how tough the MWC is this year, so basically they have to win the tournament to get in, just like Weber State. BYU will probably have to beat both St. Mary's and Gonzaga to get in and Weber State will more than likely have to beat Montana on the road...which is about 50/50 as they only lost by two this year. BYU definitely has a tall order, but it could happen.

    It looks like the state of Utah's streak of having a team in the NCAA Tourney is in real jeopardy. You never know though, anything can happen in conference tournaments.

    @Whoa Nellie: Tell me more about that sandwich...too funny. Being a Chicago Cubs fan has taught me to not take losses to seriously. I got a good laugh out of your comment.

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    My observation about this team is that they are under-talented. Team speed is a problem, too slow at the point, where Carlino is a poor man's jimmer wannabe, the forwards don't have the skill to man-up and play defense and control the boards. The zone defense is a point awarding sieve, and they don't have the skill to play man-to-man. Offensively, they cannot shoot the 3 with any sustained accuracy, and the two scorers on the team are impatient and under duress don't let the game come to them and therefore throw up ill-conceived shots. Defensively, they don't try, most of the time they are content to attempt to outscore the other team through their transition effort. To be a good offensive player is a gift, whereas, to be a good defensive player requires effort, work and energy. Too little of which is seen in this edition of Cougar basketball. Very depressing.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    It's tough to beat a team that's shooting 90% from 3-point land. BYU has proven themselves to be a decent team this year, but losses like this show that they're not an NCAA tournament caliber team. Hopefully, a win or two in the NIT will give them some tourney experience and a positive to build on going into next season when the Cougars will be bolstered by new and returning talent.


    On the bright side:

    Just two days after a close, well-played win in five sets over No. 15 UC Santa Barbara, the #1-ranked BYU Men's Volleyball dispatched the #6 Bruins of UCLA in straight sets (25-22, 25-15, 25-23) Saturday night to extend their current winning streak to three games.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    epic fold.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    And starting at guard, wait until next year Carlino.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    It was the refs fault...again. lol.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    Smells like karma in here.

  • Cedarcreek320 Star Valley Ranch, WY
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    It's good to see them consistantly playing up to theie abilities. Maybe , if they are very careful who they choose, they can schedule some high school or jc teams, in hopes of boosting their record next year.

    Feb. 10, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    Pathetically embarrassing.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    The chances of Any team from Utah in the NCAA are looking bleak. The only team playing with heart is the maligned Utes. There is always next year.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:34 a.m.

    On the bright side the sandwich I bought by Portal F was really good. Glad I ate it before the game started.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:31 a.m.

    Very disappointing to see the Cougs play the way they did in the 2nd half.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:16 a.m.

    NIT is the best place for BYU to be this year, although if they keep this up, they may lose the ability to have some of these games at home (or even make it to the NIT). Average season is looking a little more like a bad season now.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:43 a.m.

    Stunned Cougars??

    Sorry guys, this is a pathetic team. No talent or leadership here.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:15 a.m.

    And the nauseating pain goes on! We lost a chance to the NCAA last week and now we may not even get an invite to the NIT. Oh how I wish things were different! But, there's always next year. I know we the fans are tired of hearing that but it seems to be our lot and the cause of all the hate and continuous disrespect from the haters and those who lives to mock us on these boards.

    I still hope for a prayer and a miracle though.

    Go Cougars!

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 10, 2013 3:58 a.m.

    Lights out, indeed! Cougars fans came to see the team bounce back at home and got that at the end of the half, so some even headed home on a snowy Saturday night, only to find out that the win they left was taken away by an incredible 3-point barrage exhibition. USF did what I always thought an underdog should do when down 15 at the others guys gym, bring in your rainbow makers and let them fly, what do you got to lose? It sure worked out with the Cougars going cold and losing any type of transition game. And don't blame the refs when a hot shooting team is executing, and our team is floundering without cohesion, consistency, and leadership. Doolin couldn't help but remind me of the film, One On One, with Robby Benson back in the 70s. When the Cougars thought it was in the bag, they shut-down mentally and lost any edge. At least they were in a great place to watch a team have the best game of their season. Lesson learned, but it looks like more is yet to be taught.

  • USNGary South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:06 a.m.

    I was at the game and what made me sick was the coughs just going straight down the court and hoping for a foul. No passes no moving the ball around. Looked like church ball at its worst!!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:51 p.m.

    Smells an awful lot like karma in here.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:52 p.m.

    After having watched byu basketball and football go something like 2-20 against the only noteworthy opponents the past two years, you can practically hear the sigh of relief from Big 12 nation everywhere for having NOT invited byu.

    The big 12 made the right call.

    By not calling.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:48 p.m.

    I'm not sure anyone within one of the "real conferences" even knew there was such thing as San Francisco Community College.

    You learn something new every day.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:41 p.m.

    Wow, what an ugly night for Utah's 2 "premier" programs. Utes and Cougs both stinkin it up.

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:37 p.m.

    WOW. I am the biggest BYU fan out there but the Cougars show no heart and fight anymore. They are soft on interior defense and can't remember how to play man-to-man on the outside. Can't blame this one on the refs. I think they are done for the year. Oh well, at least they are not the Utes.

  • KSUBYU Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    This team just has no heart and no leadership. They can not stick to a plan and Rose has no answers and no bench. NIT is all they can hope for and maybe one win in that tourny,

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:19 p.m.

    BYU's lack of discipline on offense and defense hurt them again. They play a lot of zone, and if they give up penetration like tonight, they'll have a hard time winning. Haws needs to get used to teams being physical with him. When you're as good as he is, they're going to play you tight. Every great player learns how to move without the ball when facing pressure, and he will. He gets rattled a bit and gets off of his game.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:11 p.m.

    Hey, Cougs players, let me help out a bit. No need to be "stunned." Um, this may be hard, but .... you are not nearly as "good" and solid as you think you were. I'm beyone frustrated with each game. Seems like finding more ways how to lose each game.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:07 p.m.

    Losing in the road to a PAC 12 conference of champion and top 25 team in close game is respectable

    Losing at home to a nobody from a nobody conference? Embarrassing

    Think the big 12 is impressed?