BYU basketball: Cougars give up 15-point lead to lose at home, 99-87

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  • mnsave Rigby, ID
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:00 p.m.

    We've been spoiled. Personally I tend to forget that we have 5 sophomores playing a lot of minutes and we lost 2 good big men to injuries. The future looks better than Chris B's Utes.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 10, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    The Cougars really miss the consistency of Hartsock and the rebounding and defense of Abuo. Even with the addition of Hawes and the improvement of Sharp this is a poorer team than last year's. I am beginning to suspect that Hawes is somewhat of a head case. And if Carlino could just learn to stifle himself a little bit, he'd be great.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    @Ricardo Carvalho - "No postseason for the Wolverines or Utes but some good progress for the Utes this year."

    I have no problem agreeing that the Cougs are not half the team I thought they'd be this year I thought we'd be on par with last year after losing Hartsock and Abuo, but picking up Haws and a couple of JCs. But such is not the case.

    However to argue that the Utes are progressing is an overstatement. If the U had the same non-conference games as last year, their record would be worse than last year. They have had a couple of good games this year, but they had a couple of good games last year also. They do have a better base to build on, assuming there is not another exodus of players.

    I don't think the Cougs can afford to lose to another team not named Gonzaga or St Mary's if we want to make it to the NIT.

    Feb. 10, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    poyman, in reality, these are mostly the same officials that you've always had. Unlike football, where the officials are assigned to a conference, basketball is done regionally. Most refs cover 2-4 games a week, all in different conferences. So the MWC refs are Pac-12 refs are WCC refs are WAC refs, etc, etc. The complaints about the "new refs" being even worse than the "old" ones are tired. Just accept the fact that the fans on both sides are never going to like the refs, but the refs aren't the ones that allowed 14 3-pointers to go in.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:06 a.m.

    I am not one who usually likes to blame officiating too much, but the Officials in the WCC and particularly the Black lead official tonight were less than consistent and it seemed like the lead official had some kind of vendetta that he was taking out on the Cougs... They are playing poorly enough they don't need further punishment from biased Refs.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:43 p.m.

    Smells like karma in here.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:59 p.m.

    Frustrating. This is not rocket science. When the other team is burning you on 3's , switch to man on man and avoid help defense too much. You kind of have to stay at home on defense.

    My problem, is why do I have to say this. I know Dave is a better coach than this. This was a coaching failure tonight couched with a incredibly hot Frisco team in the second half.

    This team got let down by the coaches and I do like coach Rose. The players have the abilities.

    Just relax and play and have an enjoyable rest of the season. Heres hoping for a miracle in the WCC in Vegas.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:50 p.m.

    Inconsistency-- the term of our season. As I've mentioned before, so consistency amongst our Big 3. If one is solid, the others rarely are. Haws is clearly running out of steam and patience. Cougs fans, let's give USF credit. They shot lights out in the 2nd half. Um, we did not. The frustrating season continues. NIT? Let's hope.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:46 p.m.

    The officiating tonight was horrible. When BYU was up 15, the refs did all they could to get SF back in the game.

    Mission accomplished.

  • Glad to be Retired Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:44 p.m.

    Haws and Carlino could take a lesson from SF 45 (Doolin) - Pass the ball to your teammates!!

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    Probably the worst half I have seen for BYU Basketball in the 50 years that I have followed them... Poorly played and poorly coached...

    Hawes lost his cool and the rest of the night was pretty horrible for him... Davies seems to be getting worse with each game... You can tell that Carlino has had his ears boxed by the coach for some poor floor decisions, seems like he either wants to take every shot or make a spectacular pass that leads to a bucket every time he handles the ball...

    From a coaching standpoint I am not understanding why we don't go straight man-to-man when the other team is shooting lights out... At least make the shooters dribble... Or maybe do a box and one to cool off the hot shooter... I also don't understand why our best perimeter Defender is sitting the bench till there is only 4 minutes to go (Winder)... About 4 games ago I had big hopes for this team... Now I am seeing if I can get my money back on the Vegas trip...

    Oh, and Chris B? Think SacState and Northridge and 1-11 against BYU over the last 7 years.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:13 p.m.

    San Francisco is a team that is probably about as good as Utah. This is their second top 100 win - they also beat St. John's earlier in the season by 15 at home. So that is an indication that the Pac-12 is better than the WCC. If Utah were playing in the WCC they would probably be .500 in the conference - in the Pac-12 they are tied for last with a 2-9 conference record. BYU still has a better shot of getting in than Utah does. Utah does have 3 better wins than BYU does but they also have one really bad loss that BYU has nothing comparable to. I'm pretty sure BYU also has a much higher chance than Utah does at winning the conference tournament - although neither of their chances are that high for that.

  • sports4life1 OGDEN, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:06 p.m.

    Like I said earlier when you move to a pathetic conference you eventually blend in in with the competition of that conference. it looks to me like that may be happening much sooner than expected. Here's to the end of the BYU era Goodbye Post season

  • Ricardo Carvalho Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:07 p.m.

    BYU has probably lost its chance at the Big Dance Chris B - but at 11-13, UVU has a better chance of dancing than the 10-13 Utes. My guess is BYU, Weber, and Utah State to the NIT. No postseason for the Wolverines or Utes but some good progress for the Utes this year.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:54 p.m.

    Now an NIT bid is iffy. I'm turning off the lights. Bye.

  • AribaD Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:50 p.m.

    Is it just a coincidence that Carlino played very little of the first half and most of the second half? Has that guy ever seen a horrible shot he didn't like? Has he ever even attempted to play in control? Inquiring minds what to know.

    Feb. 9, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    Embarrassing, maybe I was wrong when I said that BYU would make the NIT. They don't look like they can win another game the rest of the way. That team showed no heart tonight. 15 point lead blow that lead and lose at home to a bad San Fran team by 12 and give up the most points in a regulation loss at home since 1975. What a joke.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:36 p.m.

    At least we lost on the road, to a top 25, Conference of Champion and respected program.

    You lost at home, to a weak cost conference member.

    Utah has 3 better wins than you do all season.

    We have a better chance of dancing than you!

  • BYU NATION Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    There goes our hopes of being a 6 seed in the NCAA Tourney. Maybe next year.