Brad Rock: Memo to Utah Jazz—Cash can fix anything

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  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 15, 2013 12:38 p.m.


    If we were willing to throw enough money at someone, chances are other teams would too. And once you go through other scenarios and tie-breakers, Utah would lose. Money isn't always the answer. Lebron could have got more money going to the nets or knicks, but didn't take it. And that was one good year with those two out of 5 or 6 that they played together. It would take more than that to move back up to being a top team in the west. The Spurs and their fountain of youth are still there (who knows for how much longer) the Thunder will be around for a while, the Clippers should be (depending on Paul), the Lakers always find a way to compete, and Memphis, GS, Denver, and Houston are all very similar to us.

    We need to accept that we might not have a great team again for a while.

  • XRepublican Holladay, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    Jefferson is a 20-10 player. How many of those are available? Keep Al!!!!!!!
    Milsap is a 15-8 player who improves EVERY year. Keep Paul!!!!!!

    All the trade rumors originate in other cities for a reason and that reason is NOT to benefit the Jazz. I think most of these trade rumors are wishful thinking on the part of other teams.

    CASE FOR KEEPING AL: Watch Kantor. It is obvious Al is doing a good job of tutoring him.
    CASE FOR KEEPING PAUL: How many crunch-time players like Paul are there?

    Two years from now, when the full impact of thee luxury tax is known, the players will discover there is only so much money available and then SOLID, STEADY, DEPENDABLE teams will become heavily desired destinations. The Jazz will be in the very top tier.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    @ Bruce 1

    How is Corbin a bad coach? You could bring Phil Jackson in and the Jazz would still be middle of the road. Like Coach John Wooden said. How do you win? Get good players was his answer. Corbin has done just fine. My biggest problem with the Jazz is their lack of defense. They should have beat Chicago, Boozer tore them up down the stretch. Sacramento then ran the Jazz off the floor.

    @ sky2k1

    Throw enough money at any player and they will sign. Don't forget, signing Boozer and then drafting Deron got the Jazz to the WCF, and the Spurs were really the only team in the NBA the Jazz could not have beat in a series that year. So the Jazz can land someone and keep Favors, Kanter and Hayward and return to being a top team in the west.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 11, 2013 12:27 a.m.

    the way i'm seeing that...the Jazz is not sold with the young guns...Hayward, Favors, Kanter and Burks...if they were? we would be trading Big Al and Millsap for high draft picks...we would be getting Pieces that would help the four...and the four should have logged minutes since last year...especially Hayward and Favors...and this year for the four of them...goes to show that they dont trust them...and they arent really sold that this 4 will be our future...Demarre Carrol should stay as a backup nothing more...also we have a problem with our coaching staff...because he heavily favors overrated vets...and doesnt seem to know what to do...we need a good young coach...with clear plans for the team...and ensuring the team's identity...with corbin...we dont get much...the Management need to wake up...are they committed to build a championship caliber team? or are we going to be a mediocre playoff team?...its kind of sad...coz we are an average to below-average team....

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:27 p.m.

    Memo to Utah Jazz:

    Placing the same ingredients in you get the same results out.

    The Jazz already have high draft picks with potential on their team, but they are only now starting to play them more, see: Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter and Alec Burks. What good does it do if you don't give them the time they need (throughout the entire season) to develop?

    Obviously, its not as easy as I make it in my head, but they gotta start taking some chances and mix it up a little.

    Luke Ridnour is another mid-tier player that isn't a substantial upgrade in my mind.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    re: dumprake

    1. Who is Derrick Williams ?
    2. Yes the Jazz are still paying raja bell because he has a guaranteed contract and didn't agree to a buyout. He can be used in a trade however.
    3. Jeremy Evans and DeMarre Carroll are both solid players especially for the money they're getting paid.

    re: millsapfan

    The Jazz can trade players now but cannot do any 'sign and trade' deals until those players are not under contract which would be this summer. Al is worth quite a bit but he's also probably worth more to the Jazz than anyone they could get.

    The rumored trade of raja bell and the worst of our 2 first round draft picks for Luke Ridnour would be a nice addition this season but other than that, I agree with Rock.

  • millsapfan Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    I agree with several of the comments posted, but no matter how hard we try, we will not get a top tier player from free agency. Not gonna happen. For whatever reason, good players do not want to come to Utah, even if paid a lot. The only way we'll be able to get good players is via trade.

    Lindsey needs to work a sign and trade deal NOW, before it's too late. Because, like him or not, Big Al is worth quite a bit and could get us a really good player in a trade. This goes for Millsap as well. Sure, if they walk, there'll be money on the table, but what's the point if no one is willing to bite?

    What will happen is Jazz management will do what they've always done, overpay for mid to low level players...

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    In one way or another, as much as I have grown to like AJ, he is way too expensive at 15 million. Milsap was already offered a good package but turned it down. All nine of those potential free agents are going to want to "eat up the savings". It just appears to be the nature of our society to "go for the gold". Here in St. Louis, the recent death of Stan Musial reminds us that "being loyal to the brewery" is no longer in vogue. In fact, the brewery has now been sold to Brazil and the Cardinals are now owned by an absentee landlord in Cincinnati who made his money in assoication with the Texas Rangers and George Bush. I am not so sure that the Utah Jazz can survive in a "used car world" that is similar to the love story between Stan Musial and Augie Busch that died with time into a modern nightmare.

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:42 p.m.

    What a ridiculously stupid article. Yeah, as sports writers and fans lets hope the Jazz owners don't spend any money or make any trades to improve this team, all in the name of financial responsibility.

    As noted above, the only way the Jazz are going to get players that will impact this team are by overpaying them, trading for them, or drafting them. Even at that, the coaching will hold this team back regardless of who they get.

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:19 p.m.

    Part 2

    When "Top players still play in outposts if the money’s right" it's because that is where they were before free agency. Getting legitimate tier 1 or tier 2 superstars to sign in Utah doesn't happen. While I agree the Jazz wouldn't benefit much from Splitter, Jackson, and Mills (I like the Spurs though so I believe they are quality players), the Jazz generally only build in the draft and trades. So while I think we should try and get good draft picks, I don't think dumprake's idea is plausible.

    The Jazz's best chance at a free agent is probably Brandon Jennings, who is not a Tier 1, 2, 3 or maybe even 4 superstar in the off-season, and then hope to keep either Millsap or Big Al, and then build via the draft. And we could only get Jennings because he is going from one outpost to the next and because the big market teams either can't afford him, or don't need him.

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    I couldn't disagree more with this article. I would invite anyone who agrees with this column to answer me one question -- who is the best free agent we've signed after carlos boozer? He mentions sitting on cash until the right guy comes along, and then near the end of his article he says "But money and winning speak loudly"...except sitting on money and not signing players doesn't lead to winning.

    Also, he wrote "I’d put my money under the mattress and wait until the weather turns balmy". Unfortunately the weather here never turns balmy, and players quite literally like to sign with warmer cities (with the exception of the Knicks and the Nets, and even then, they don't acquire the best free agents in recent memory).

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:10 p.m.

    Rock may be right, he makes a compelling case. I agree the Jazz are not going to go anywhere this year--even if they make the playoffs, which I doubt. But take careful inventory:
    1. Derrick Williams is a wasted body, contributes nothing to this team--get rid of him.
    2. And is Raja Bell still on the roster? are we still paying him? why?
    3. Jamal Tinsley should be shipped somewhere, anywhere.
    4. Earl Watson is washed up, contributes little to the team.
    5. Demarre Carroll? The Jazz can do better than this
    6. Jeremy Evans is the poster child for the "look at me I can jump and dunk the basketball, but I'm not good for much else" crowd.

    So here are six players that are so mediocre it's mind boggling; bundle them up and trade them for a star, or a young star...or a number one draft pick who can make a real difference on this team.

    Hayward, Kanter, Favors, Burks; now these guys can help this team so hang on to them. Jefferson, Millsap, and Mo Williams can play, but need help. Get a couple of real helpers and this team can go places.

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:32 p.m.

    if they just want money that would be fine if they want players the only way is trade for them. if they let millsap and jefferson walk they have 22 mil but who are they signing? another marvin williams or another tinsley? the only shot they have is to trade for a point guard. then they have to find another big to replace the one they traded good luck with that .right now the biggest asset the jazz have is the four big's . most teams are looking for some and the jazz already have them and all everybody talks about is trading them. if they can keep all four with burks carrol and gordon i would be happy but i don't know how they would be abel to sign anybody else.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Trading for a high draft choice is WAY better than trading for an non-superstar or an aging superstar.

    The Jazz will likely always be just good enough to miss out on high draft choices via their play, so trading for one could be their only way to obtain a superstar (one in the making, of course).

    The Jazz also need more trey threats. Injuries and off nights can sink the Jazz's few trey shooters. You can never have enough of them.

    Jimmer comes to mind. His trey percentage is among the league's top tier, so would thrive in a scheme like the Jazz have. Kind of like Korver did (remember his around 50% one season?).

    There are others, but some might not want Utah.

  • bruce1 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:21 p.m.

    players are important but useless without a good coach. Time to fire Corbin and try out a new face. His favorite saying is "we learned our lesson" When will the Jazz learn their lesson about this failure of a coach?

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you so much for this article! It would be awfully short sighted of the Jazz to trade over $40 million in financial flexiblity for middle-of-the-road players. The Jazz can use all that salary cap space to sign free agents or absorb salaries via trades this summer. There is zero need to do anything right now. Be patient, Jazz fans.
    The one trade beyond an all-star caliber that might be worth making is a trade for a potential high draft choice. I don't know if lottery bound teams would trade those for expiring contracts, though.