Hill Air Force Base faces 'very real threat,' Chaffetz tells legislators

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  • goodnight-goodluck S.L.C., UT
    Feb. 13, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    Let it sequester, that is the ONLY way we will ever see any meaningful cuts in a bloated defense budget. Sequester will take it to 2005 levels, don't buy into the be afraid. Let's end this endless war bring the troops home. Are we really so afraid we need a defense budget larger then the next 25 countries in the world 24 of whom are our allies.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:36 p.m.


    Nobody said don't cut entitlements, they need to be cut too! Your argument should not be relevant to whether Hill is closed or not. We can no longer afford military bases that either duplicate what other more efficient bases do, or have a mission that is no longer vital. We heard all the gloom and doom when Tooele was closed and Dugway was trimmed way back, and we survived those. Cuts can't always be made to somebody else's stuff.

    By the way the cuts to entitlements need to begin now. The majority of current seniors can afford to pay a little more for their medicare. Means tested should begin now for entitlements not sometime down the road.

  • notme layton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:54 p.m.

    Wow. Some of these comments are truly frightening. He was not just talking about cuts to Hill Air Force base, he was talking about its closure. ITS CLOSURE. Closures are done not by reason or logic, but by politics. Seeing as how we are a useless state to democrats, we are not in a good position. It was, in fact, to be closed in 1995, but with some political wrangling by Jim Hansen, it was saved at the last minute.

    Do you have any idea what its closure would do to our state? You would not be so giddy about all the cuts coming from the military once your taxes go through the roof or something you do love is cut to pay for its loss- the state's largest employer.

    Are we saying no military cuts? Of course not. But why only military? Why are entitlements not touched?

    There are going to be ugly consequences to the direction we are going. Take from the rich and the job creators, support more and more people without giving them any reason to work, make unsustainable promises, undermine the military and slowly disarm the people. These will only make our problems worse.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    "*'Obama calls for tightening the belts, except his own vacations' - By Hippo Krit - DSNews - 02/30/11

  • LetsBeHonest2 Roy, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    Let the cuts begin! Debt is destroying our country. Nothing get's done because both political parties pander to its constituents who are only concerned about what's in it for them. I work at Hill and I'm tired of the 'benchwarmers' complaining about the possibility of a cut in pay or the loss of their position. When you work hard and are competent, you can always find a job. Maybe it's time for some civil servants to get off the bench and develop a work ethic.

  • Makid Kearns, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:22 a.m.

    The defense budget more than doubled in the last 12 years. That means that it can be cut by 50% without fear of closing Hill AFB. What should be cut are projects the military has said they don't need nor want yet Congress keeps pushing.

    Once defense is cut 50% back to what it was in 2000, we can look at cutting social entitlements which have only grown 25% since 2000.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:00 a.m.

    Cut Cut Cut spending.

    Just not where I live, or things that will affect my constituents.

    Mr. Chaffetz is just like every other politician.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Every part of the Federal budget should be cut, including military. The trouble with Decmocrats is they won't allow so called "entitlement" programs to be cut. We all as Americans will have to take a bite out of this bitter apple because we all as Americans have in effect caused it by electing the people we have to run the government. And we continue to elect them. It's Our fault.
    P.S. Thank God for the 22nd Amendment.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    @ worf 9:21 a.m. Feb. 9, 2013

    "What a shame, that we've become so dependent on a federal government, and what it does."

    What about those psychologically soft individuals who rely on non-secular institutions to be the center of their universe?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Hmm, I thought Republicans believed gov't spending didn't create jobs and that they were serious about deficit reduction.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    As one of close to 800,000 DOD civilians who faces the very real likelihood of furloughs and a 20% paycut for the rest of the fiscal year if the sequestration goes forward (and heaven only knows what's in store for next year), Mr. Chaffetz's comments strike me as NIMBY-ism of the worst sort. You put us in this position, sir. Either do your job to get us out of it, or quit whining about the impact it will have on your district.

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    Well, according to Republican mantra, government spending does not create jobs or stimulate the economy, so it should be no loss if the base were shut down.

  • carpoolmom SOUTH JORDAN, Salt Lake
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Wasn't that the reason most of Utah voted for Hatch? He was the only who could save Hill Air Force? Why are you angry with Chaffetz? He didn't campaign on this it was Hatch that would save the day. By the way the only reason all my neighbors voted for Hatch is because Romney needed him. Which I found to be a very dumb argument as if any other Republican would do nothing to help Romney. Can't believe we are stuck with Hatch who created the mess we are in.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you are going talk about deep cuts in government spending, get ready for deep cuts in government spending.

  • Noodlekaboodle Poplar Grove, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    The "UN Army" is the US army. We are by far the biggest contributor of troops and $$$. If the "UN Army" was attacking us we wouldn't need to leave the Mexican border open. The troops would already be in our country.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    I like to read My2Cents comments.

    Her comments prove to me that the DN truly welcomes thoughtful comments.

    Of all those DN readers who take time to comment, My2 Cents comments always encourage a civil dialogue.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Sequester is a great way to approach it all because everyone's special interests get cut fairly evenly. Step back after it and look at individual things. Politicians love federally funded things because defending those in their own districts buys them votes - doesn't matter if it's defense, research or welfare - those just define their electorate.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    If Mr Chaffetz were truly concerned about getting the debt under control and stopping ALL wasteful spending, he would be leading the charge to reduce the size of Hill Air Force Base. He would also be pushing for the consolidate military training facilities so that we don't have government waste by duplication of services that Mr. Chaffetz so often criticizes. The training range does not require a large base in Utah to continue its operation.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    To IJ 8:43 a.m. Feb. 9, 2013

    Furry -

    So just what is the "truth."


    Take a look at what "My2Cents" posted in the referenced post. It's the opposite of what s/he said.

  • TheTruth801 SLC, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    I lived in a city in California that lost two Air Force bases and an Army Reserve installation. If you close Hill AFB, it will destroy the northern part of Utah economically. Before you agree to close it, you better do your research. My city when from a great place to live to one of the most dangerous cities in america. And they are losing their NBA team!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:21 a.m.


    What a shame, that we've become so dependent on a federal government, and what it does.

    This was never the original intention.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    Balance the Budget, close HAFB. That is my tea party rant of the day.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    A lot of R's are for government spending and cutbacks until it comes to their stuff.

    Still, I think it is essential to have a strong defense. If Hill and other military installations in Utah are crucial to this end, then by all means let's keep things. If not, then Utah must sacrifice just like the R's in this state seem to want everyone else to sacrifice.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Isn't honesty supposed to be a "conservative" value?

    Why, then, is it so obvious that some of our supposedly conservative posters here had mommies who never taught them that fibbing isn't nice?

    Or has any sense of honesty and fair play they may have had at one time been drowned out by too much hate radio?

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Furry -

    So just what is the "truth."

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    To My2Cents 3:17 a.m. Feb. 9, 2013

    I read your diatribe and found nothing true in any of what you said. It makes you sound like you only listen to hate radio, and don't research across the political spectrum to find the real truth (the truth sure wasn't present in the things you said). Sad.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 3:17 a.m.

    No body gets it yet. The president is the least qualified to write or implement any budget so why is the House and Senate "letting" him do it?

    Most critical move to get our nations debt and budget under control is kick Obama out of the House and Senate. Its not his authority to negotiate or make demands for his spendthrift opulent lifestyle. If we want to bash the congressmen, lets bash them for being spineless compromising and without convictions of this country soverignty.

    The president is out to crush america and its culture by any means, and that includes get rid of our military, our civil laws and rights, and the Constitution. Obama is out to put his mercenaries, attack drones, and senators in power against all Constitution laws making this illegal. Obama is about removing obstacles of armed civilians, civil law and order, civilian military that are obstacle to a dictator, it has nothing to do with budget cuts or reducing spending.

    Obama plans to use the UN military with a joint treaty with Obama to divide a separated nations. That's why Obama is keeping our border with Mexico unprotected, a path for UN army.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:16 a.m.


    Some would blame Chaffetz for a pay raise, but not Obama for the hundreds of millions spent on vacations.

    It would be better for people working at Hill AFB, and paying taxes,--rather then staying home collecting food stamps.

    At least Barry can take credit for doubling the value of gold.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 6:54 p.m.

    So the tactic is -- make noises now so if anything does happen, he will be a position to either claim he told us so, or pretend to the be savior.

    Yeah, but . . . .

    This is one of the loudest voices against government spending.

    This is also one of the loudest voices for government spending -- at least as far as his home territory is concerned.

    So which is he? A careful spender? A profligate spender?

    Or just one more sneaky politician?

  • benchwarmer ,
    Feb. 8, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    Got a great idea then Jason! How about you do your job and NOT let the sequester go through because of partisan mindlessness. Now THERE's an idea.

  • Darrel Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    This isn't an R vs D thing, but....

    When the State reliably only elects one party, neither has an interest in trying to win votes.

    If you want to spare HAFB, vote for both parties.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    *'Chaffetz blasts federal pay raises, except his own' - By Becky Bruce - DSNews - 11/10/10

    'Each member of the House and Senate earned $174,000 this year. (sic)
    When asked whether $174,000 is too much, Chaffetz pointed instead to the overall congressional budget and said it needs to be revamped.

    "It doesn't mean that everybody's going to get an individual pay cut," Chaffetz said."

    Way to 'rally' against big government spending there.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:17 p.m.

    SALT LAKE CITY — Rep. Jason Chaffetz told Utah lawmakers Friday he doesn’t know how the state and its largest employer, Hill Air Force Base, will fare as Congress struggles to get the nation’s spending under control. - Article

    *'Republicans BAIL on budget talks, blame Democrats' - By David Espo - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/23/11

    Especially since the threat was created...by Chaffetzs' own party.