Building Utah's workforce key to becoming Silicon Valley East

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  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Feb. 3, 2013 6:36 a.m.

    I'd like to see the prison moved and split up into smaller prisons positioned around the state where some economic boost is needed. The Gunnison facility is a great example. We have plenty of small towns in out of the way places that could house some prisoners and gather a government contract in the process.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 8:23 p.m.

    JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT

    Don't be silly!

    13% tax rates? Legalized pot? Fashionable to walk around naked? Ton of more regulations on businesses.

    Aside from the argument that large numbers of high tech workers coming from out-of-state would significantly change the culture of Utah, the fears expressed have absolutely no basis in reality.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Mad Hatter: So we need to jack up our tax rates to 13%, legalize pot, make it fashionable to walk around naked, and enact a ton of more regulations on businesses so that all those California progressives will feel right at home here. Did I get that right?

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    The idea of moving the prison is a terrible one. It would benefit a few very rich real estate
    investors. The cost would skyrocket as regulations, litigation and transportation isssues
    all collide with the fantasy of saving money. The state meaning the citizens would be on the hook
    for likely 4 times the estimated cost. It is collective socialism sponsored by the same group think that has created our 16 trillion deficit nationally. It would be bad for prison inmates, their families and our society. Corporate welfare is a huge contributor to our deficit and that is what this would be.

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    It is interesting to hear the "we have to be like everybody else" concerns constantly raised about Utah. However, the problem we have today is not that companies are not looking to come here. It is the lack of people with skills in certain areas. We need to focus on getting our children to pursue occupations that provide high paying jobs and that are in demand. If we have the skilled workforce, companies will come. While some may not look to Utah because we are not as "progressive" as the bay area, I have had clients from the bay area call me about moving their companies because they cannot effectively function anymore in California. There is a reason that hundreds of companies are moving from California to Texas. Should we welcome all types of people to Utah - absolutely. Should we follow California, Detroit, etc. down the rat-hole of "progressive" policies - absolutely not. While we may not get some companies with a strong left tilt, we will be more attractive to companies looking to escape.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    I work in tech in Utah and have for the past 19 years. The idea of "tech worker collaboration" seems a necessity.

    Workers in tech need to have YOUR interests heard in these issues. We need something similar to a union, but without the "strong arm" tactics to represent us - maybe call it a guild.

    The Chamber, businesses, politicians will seek the best interests of the companies that do business here. While that is good, workers' issues should be a factor.

    Remember, hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of tech jobs have moved overseas. Currently in the USA, approximately 40% of the tech workforce are foreign workers on visas such as the H-1B visa. This visa is frequently used to bypass US citizens and hire foreign workers - almost like indentured servants. Even free market champion and Nobel Prize economist Milton Friedman said that the H-1B visa is a government "subsidy" given to employers. And we tech workers compete against that government subsidy, to the loss of hundreds of thousands of tech workers into unemployment over the past few decades.

    Yes, we workers need to be more organized and make sure OUR interests are represented.

  • Wolverines Woods Cross, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    Mad Hatter,

    I am an engineer, I came to Utah for the business friendly atmosphere and the opportunities. Not because of the political views.


    Engineers as a whole are not unionized. The main reason for that is there is a plethora of opportunities either here in Utah, int the rest of the US or abroad. If you want a raise you ask for one or you find a business that will give you a raise. If you don't like the job you move on.

  • E & EE Ann arbor, MI
    Jan. 30, 2013 6:30 a.m.

    Care to elaborate Pagan? I'm pretty sure most engineers and other tech workers are not unionized. Nor do they have the need. Even if what you say is true, what would be the point if there are no business to support your work force? Unions have lost their usefulness and have become simply a drain on the economy. If they really were worth it do you think thousands would be fleeing them when given the chance?

    That said, I do like the direction Utah is headed. I hope the tech companies continue to come.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 12:47 a.m.

    There are certain cultural problems which will need to be corrected. Probably the most important will be how will Utah residents react to the more progressive-minded people who would be required for such an emerging industry. Hightly-educated people, both men and women, want to live and work in a more liberal environment more accepting of a diverse workforce.

    Remember, Silicon Valley sits in Santa Clara County, California. Not the most conservative environments in the United States. Not only does the region cultivate highly-educated people, but it cultivates the diversity that comes with such people.

    It would certainly change the socio-political landscape of the region.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 12:43 a.m.

    Goldman Sachs was already here, we gave them 50 million in tax breaks. They will not be paying for education anytime soon.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 10:58 p.m.

    You cannot build a workforce...

    in a right to work, state.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    This is certainly great news for both those people looking to provide for their families, and those looking for others to provide for their families.