With Obamacare looming, pressure grows on smokers, obese

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  • Nyomi4Arbonne Hillsboro, NH
    July 10, 2013 3:39 a.m.

    Thank You "dferg" for bringing up the fact that NOT ALL people who are Overweight/Obese are that way because they CHOOSE to be, or because they OVEREAT!!! When I was in my VERY Late Teen Years through my Early-Mid Twenties, I was on a MYRIAD of Medications, most of which made me put on a SIGNIFICANT amount of weight. I went from weighing roughly 110 pounds, to weighing OVER 220 pounds in a matter of about 5 years.

    I am ALSO disabled, and am CURRENTLY Wheelchair-Bound. I can NOT exercise my lower body, because I can't put weight on my legs (aside from OTHER problems, BOTH of my legs are broken and require EXTENSIVE Surgery to fix). The ONLY exercising I can do, is Upper Bodywork.

    There is SUCH a TERRIBLE Stigma out there, that if you are "fat", it's because you Don't Take Care of Yourself, and you are Constantly Easting. People need to figure out that THOSE reasons are NOT what is going on with the MAJORITY of Overweight People!

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Jan. 31, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    Utah Bill: If "Obamacare" is the incorrect title, why does Obama refer to it as "Obamacare?" Whatever you call it, it is just one more way for big brother government to mess with our personal lives.

  • dferg Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    What gets me is that nobody seems to have noticed the obvious axe that Mr. callahan has to grind, which seems clearly to be the catalyst for his myopic opinion on "the obese". It's quite simple: he's simply mad that he was adversely impacted ("shamed", as he put it) for his smoking habit and therefore wants to spread his misery around so he isn't alone. Misery loves company, after all.

    I call it a myopic viewpoint because that is just what it is: acting as if all fat people are fat because of overeating. Well, while it may be true for a lot of them, it certainly isn't true for all of them - or even necessarily the majority of them. I'm fat, and make no bones about or try to deny it. However, it largely (pun intended) is due to my disability, causing limited mobility and therefore limited excercise opportunity. I make every effort to eat healthy, and even work with a personal trainer twice a week (at my own expense) engaging in the few excercises I am able to perform.

    In other words, don't lump all fat folk under the "gluttonous overeater" umbrella.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" how is a tax on tobacco any different than a tax on gasoline?

    The tax is there for 2 purposes. To discourage its use and to fund specific government programs.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    Using the incorrect title "Obamacare" is a continuing effort to derail and delegitimize the Affordable Care Act. The desired effect is to have those who oppose Obama to also oppose the ACA. You'd think journalists would realize that by now - and their editors too.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Jan. 29, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    Insurance companies should have a right to reduce premiums for people who don't smoke. They could also reduce premiums for people who are not obese, who are not sexually promiscuous, who don't drink, who have a good driving record, who don't use drugs. This just makes sense. Those that don't have risky behaviors shouldn't have to subsidize those that participate in risky behaviors. It would also be a motivation for people to live a healthier lifestyle. It's a win/win.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    "Lds lib."

    3 days after Obama took office he signed a smoke tax of $1.00 per pack into law.

    He did it to fund SCHIP.

    How was it only Republicans?

    To the best of my recollection the urge to compel smokers to quit has come from BOTH parties.

    Sorry, everything you don't like can't be blamed on the Republican party.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 1:42 p.m.

    Utah Republicans should be cheering over this.

    They have been trying to "Force" people to stop smoking for decades.
    And he's President Obama - a former smoker himself - who finally gets it done.

    But - somehow, I think we'll see them trash talk him for Political Party Points over agreeing this was the right think to do for our country.
    Even when it was their idea in the 1st place.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    This is an inevitable consequence of state-run healthcare. When premiums are increased to the ultimate possible level, they will start to try to figure out how to cut costs.

    BTW- I asked my health insurance company once why premiums weren't higher for smokers and they said that there was negligible differences in the amount of claims for smokers vs. non-smokers.

    Smokers and the obese first; then folks who don't take care of their diabetes, folks who opt for risky pregnancies, etc. All costs will be put under a microscope.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Jan. 29, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    "Sin" taxes are fine with me, and all of them should be included in the plan. However, I doubt we could ever get two people to agree what should be taxes and what shouldn't!