Come on Ainge...trade for the Jimmer.
I hope Jimmer can find a spot somewhere. I don't see him being an elite
point guard but he could be productive on the right team and I would love to
watch him play.Thanks for the Jimmer updates. I don't seem to
like them as much as the ute and lillard fans/trolls but I like to keep tabs on
@liberal larry"Jimmer is a unique talent"In what
way is he a unique talent? He is a graet shooter. Period. In the league you have
to do more than just simply shoot it. I agree that he is in a
situation he is in is ridiculous and I think he will be able to contribute a
little bit more than he has. But you can't classify him as a "unique
Sorry; that was five parts, wasn't it? And here are parts 6 and 7:6. Responding to a Jimmer article with a sarcastic reference to Damian Lillard
is counterproductive to your point. Everyone who cares knows Lillard is
excelling in Portland -- a team that had a great need at PG. Good for him.
Pointing this out does not make Jimmer fans less interested in Jimmer. It really
doesn't.7. If wer'e going to bag on Jimmer's shooting
percentage, you might want to look at Lillard's before you start tapping on
your keyboard. Their overall FG% is almost identical, and Jimmer's got him
in 3FG% and FT%. Sorry; facts is facts.
Man, sour grapes, sour grapes, sour grapes. I'm not sure who is more worthy
of an eye roll; the ones who have a problem with the fact that Jimmer is and
will remain extremely popular in Utah, those who mis-use statistics (especially
short-term or single-game statistics) to prove some half-formed opinion, or
those who immediately try to tear down a player (in a different sport, no less)
from a rival school as a rebuttal. L-A-M-E.A little lesson in four
parts, free of charge:1. Jimmer Fredette had a lousy rookie year,
but has improved markedly in year two. Anyone with eyes and an ounce of
integrity will admit that.2. Alex Smith started off on an awful team with
no organizational stability. Coaches made odd, arbitrary decisions,
teammates' motivations were questionable, and his degree of difficulty was
through the roof.3. Repeat item 2, inserting "Jimmer" where you
see "Alex Smith."4. To call Smith a bust is to completely
misunderstand the meaning of the word.5. To call Jimmer a bust means you
were already committed to that position before he was even drafted. If
you're improving, you're not a bust.
Alex Smith had highest passing completion percentage in NFL history this
season.Many analysts say he will be the most sought after QB this
off season.But let's talk about the worst defender in the NBA,
duckhunterLet's look at your comments."alex
smith has had very little 'success' as you call it. He is one of the
worst #1 overall picks in NFL history." Wrong. Have you
followed the NFL at all these past several years? Last year Smith led the 49ers
to a 13-3 season, and a playoff run that fell just short of going to the Super
Bowl because of two special teams fumbles. This year he was 6-2 until being
sidelined with a concussion. He was 3rd in the NFL in overall quarterback
efficiency."smith has failed for 8 years including failing to
keep his job this year. Really not good at all."Again, if you
were honest as well as informed, you would know that he lost his job because his
coach wanted to try out a talented 2nd year player, who has thus far proven to
be very good himself. In Smith's previous 6 years, he had to work under 3
different (and inept) head coaches, as well as a different offensive coordinator
each year. I don't know any quarterback who could have done well under
those conditions.Try supporting your criticisms with facts and
I don't watch the Kings games but I do watch the highlights. And every
time I see Jimmer on the floor somebody is blowing by him for a layup or open
shot. We can all complain about his playing time based on his shooting ability
but the reality is he is a defensive liability who cannot guard most of the
other point guards in the league. I admit the Kings are not the best match for
him and his abilities but the NBA in general may just be a little too fast for
Jimmer and the role he is trying to play.
Jimmer logged almost 16 minutes against the Nuggets. His line was 2-8 from the
field including 1-6 on 3 pt attempts with 2 boards and 1 assist. He was a -4
for his time on the court was often was against 3 string players, Fournier and
Hamilton, that only play in 30 point blowout. Granted it was just one game but
the numbers speak for themselves.
Uteology,Quit making so much sense!
This coach may be called Smart, but he is certainly not smart when it comes to
using his players.
@Duckhunter"[Alex Smith] is one of the worst #1 overall picks in
NFL history."--------- Alex has asked the 9ers to
release him as a free agent. The 9ers are refusing because they think they can
get a 2nd round pick for him.Source: ESPN PTISo it seems
Ducky is the only one who thinks Alex is worthless.
Where do I find "Lillard watch"? Oh yea, SportsCenter.
DuckhunterHighland, UT@ninersalex smith has had
very little "success" as you call it. He is one of the worst #1 overall
picks in NFL history. ----------No he is not, prove
opinion. Let me try to help you, Alex Smith doesn't even make
ESPN's "100 Worst draft picks ever" in any sport. Here's a
couple #1 picks that do:Steve EmtmanTim CouchKenneth
SimsAundry BruceKi-Jana CarterJamarcus RussellNone
of those players lasted 8+ years in the NFL. According to Peter
King (Sports Illustrated), and to your disappointment, Alex Smith will be
playing in the NFL next year.
Now that he's getting more consistent minutes, it'll be interesting to
see what happens. Three point shooting is a commodity in the NBA, teams can
hide Jimmer's defensive deficiencies. Korver certainly wasn't a super
defender in his time in Utah. Mo Williams isn't a super defender either.
Jimmer could do well as a role player if he found a team that suited him better.
The Kings are too willy nilly.
Jimmer is a unique talent, he needs to find a team that believes in him. Remember the old adage, "you are only as good as your coach
believes you are!"
Damian Lillard is tearing up the NBA. Going to be rookie of the year......but Jimmer had jock-itch this week, let's talk about that.
Thanks PP, and yup niners, you completely missed the point. Obviously, I know
the two play different sports, but the two were both first round draft picks,
thrown into a terrible situation where they underperformed, received a lot of
criticism, etc. My point is that Smith waited things out and found some success
(and I congratulate the way Smith has handled himself this year, even more than
leading his team to the conference finals last year). Considering Jimmer is in
the top ten in three point %, there are teams that could and will use him, and
if he waits things out, we will all see that he will make a name for himself.
yES!! I new he would come back stronger and better than ever. Sacrominto will
regret not playing him all the times.
Duckhunter,You continue TRYING to make Alex Smith into one of the
biggest flops at the #1 pick of all time, having even placed him in the top 3 in
one of your comments.Funny thing though, when I go back only 22
years ... the 1990 draft ... I can list at least 10 players out of those 22 that
most critics would tell you were larger disappointments than Alex.You're so entirely far away from reality on this topic that it's
Duck hunter When jimmer leads the kings to the western conference
finals as starting PG we will begin to compare jimmer and Alex smith. For now
I'd day jimmers career looks more like Ty detmers career, stuck at 2nd
string. Although at this point jimmer would love to be 2nd string!
Do you think the lack of playing is related to his inability to guard anything
besides the statute of John Stockton?
Chris B:Hows that inferiority complex workin for ya?
I hope that Chris B will send a postcard from Germany. Europe is a nice place
for an extended visit.
@ninersalex smith has had very little "success" as you call
it. He is one of the worst #1 overall picks in NFL history. But the comparison
was basically spot on between he and Jimmer. The difference being Jimmer is only
in his 2nd year, smith has failed for 8 years including failing to keep his job
this year. Really not good at all.
In case anyone wondered, Damian Lillard is #1 on the Blazers depth chart, rookie
of the month for Nov and Dec, and averaging 18 ppg with 6.5 assists pg. But
hey, lets keep talking about Jimmer.
------Jimmer,I hear Frankfurt is nice this time of year. Send
a postcard.----------Apparently Christine B knows as little about
Germany as she does about sports.niners - you totally missed the
point (not a surprise for jealous and defensive little brothers). Alex smith
was in a bad situation and when he had a chance he did poorly. But by sticking
it out he finally made a name for himself. He is an example of what Jimmer
needs to do.
@Chris BLooks to me like the whole ute team should head to turkey
and play. 1-7 in league gotta love moving to the pac10+2 more fodder for the
Arizona's and UCLA's....lol
Somehow, some day, the Celtics will end up with Fredette.
@ DaveWhy compare jimmer to Alex smith? Two different sports. And
smith has been more successful than jimmer will ever be. How about we compare
him a utah basketball star like van horn (22 points 8 Rebs in 2nd season), Andre
miller (15 points 8 assists 4 Rebs in 2nd year), Andrew bogut (12 pts 9 Rebs 3
assists in 2nd season) or even Michael doleac (7 pts 4 Rebs in second season). I
guess I just don't understand the comparison to a football player. I
understand jimmers career doesn't look very promising but come on...
Aren't the Celtics looking for a guard now with Rondo injured? Could we
see a deal in the works for a trade?
"not only does Jimmer lead the Kings in 3-point shooting at 43.8 percent, he
is among the top 10 best long-range marksmen in the entire league."ChrissyB, there's an NBA team out there with this kind of need. As I see
other headlines dealing with Alex Smith, trust me, Jimmer's time will come.
Jimmer,I hear Frankfurt is nice this time of year. Send a postcard.