Jimmer watch: Fredette's shooting went cold, but former BYU star back in rotation

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 12:58 p.m.

    Come on Ainge...trade for the Jimmer.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Jan. 29, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    I hope Jimmer can find a spot somewhere. I don't see him being an elite point guard but he could be productive on the right team and I would love to watch him play.

    Thanks for the Jimmer updates. I don't seem to like them as much as the ute and lillard fans/trolls but I like to keep tabs on Jimmer.

  • #utesnation Centerville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    @liberal larry

    "Jimmer is a unique talent"

    In what way is he a unique talent? He is a graet shooter. Period. In the league you have to do more than just simply shoot it.

    I agree that he is in a situation he is in is ridiculous and I think he will be able to contribute a little bit more than he has. But you can't classify him as a "unique Talent"

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 29, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    Sorry; that was five parts, wasn't it? And here are parts 6 and 7:

    6. Responding to a Jimmer article with a sarcastic reference to Damian Lillard is counterproductive to your point. Everyone who cares knows Lillard is excelling in Portland -- a team that had a great need at PG. Good for him. Pointing this out does not make Jimmer fans less interested in Jimmer. It really doesn't.

    7. If wer'e going to bag on Jimmer's shooting percentage, you might want to look at Lillard's before you start tapping on your keyboard. Their overall FG% is almost identical, and Jimmer's got him in 3FG% and FT%. Sorry; facts is facts.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 29, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    Man, sour grapes, sour grapes, sour grapes. I'm not sure who is more worthy of an eye roll; the ones who have a problem with the fact that Jimmer is and will remain extremely popular in Utah, those who mis-use statistics (especially short-term or single-game statistics) to prove some half-formed opinion, or those who immediately try to tear down a player (in a different sport, no less) from a rival school as a rebuttal. L-A-M-E.

    A little lesson in four parts, free of charge:

    1. Jimmer Fredette had a lousy rookie year, but has improved markedly in year two. Anyone with eyes and an ounce of integrity will admit that.
    2. Alex Smith started off on an awful team with no organizational stability. Coaches made odd, arbitrary decisions, teammates' motivations were questionable, and his degree of difficulty was through the roof.
    3. Repeat item 2, inserting "Jimmer" where you see "Alex Smith."
    4. To call Smith a bust is to completely misunderstand the meaning of the word.
    5. To call Jimmer a bust means you were already committed to that position before he was even drafted. If you're improving, you're not a bust.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    Alex Smith had highest passing completion percentage in NFL history this season.

    Many analysts say he will be the most sought after QB this off season.

    But let's talk about the worst defender in the NBA, Jimmer Fredette.

    Jan. 28, 2013 6:31 p.m.


    Let's look at your comments.

    "alex smith has had very little 'success' as you call it. He is one of the worst #1 overall picks in NFL history."

    Wrong. Have you followed the NFL at all these past several years? Last year Smith led the 49ers to a 13-3 season, and a playoff run that fell just short of going to the Super Bowl because of two special teams fumbles. This year he was 6-2 until being sidelined with a concussion. He was 3rd in the NFL in overall quarterback efficiency.

    "smith has failed for 8 years including failing to keep his job this year. Really not good at all."

    Again, if you were honest as well as informed, you would know that he lost his job because his coach wanted to try out a talented 2nd year player, who has thus far proven to be very good himself. In Smith's previous 6 years, he had to work under 3 different (and inept) head coaches, as well as a different offensive coordinator each year. I don't know any quarterback who could have done well under those conditions.

    Try supporting your criticisms with facts and educated opinions.

  • localblue Sandy, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    I don't watch the Kings games but I do watch the highlights. And every time I see Jimmer on the floor somebody is blowing by him for a layup or open shot. We can all complain about his playing time based on his shooting ability but the reality is he is a defensive liability who cannot guard most of the other point guards in the league. I admit the Kings are not the best match for him and his abilities but the NBA in general may just be a little too fast for Jimmer and the role he is trying to play.

    Jan. 28, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Jimmer logged almost 16 minutes against the Nuggets. His line was 2-8 from the field including 1-6 on 3 pt attempts with 2 boards and 1 assist. He was a -4 for his time on the court was often was against 3 string players, Fournier and Hamilton, that only play in 30 point blowout. Granted it was just one game but the numbers speak for themselves.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 5:44 p.m.


    Quit making so much sense!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    This coach may be called Smart, but he is certainly not smart when it comes to using his players.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 5:02 p.m.


    "[Alex Smith] is one of the worst #1 overall picks in NFL history."


    Alex has asked the 9ers to release him as a free agent. The 9ers are refusing because they think they can get a 2nd round pick for him.

    Source: ESPN PTI

    So it seems Ducky is the only one who thinks Alex is worthless.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:48 p.m.

    Where do I find "Lillard watch"?

    Oh yea, SportsCenter.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:44 p.m.

    Highland, UT


    alex smith has had very little "success" as you call it. He is one of the worst #1 overall picks in NFL history.


    No he is not, prove opinion.

    Let me try to help you, Alex Smith doesn't even make ESPN's "100 Worst draft picks ever" in any sport. Here's a couple #1 picks that do:

    Steve Emtman
    Tim Couch
    Kenneth Sims
    Aundry Bruce
    Ki-Jana Carter
    Jamarcus Russell

    None of those players lasted 8+ years in the NFL.

    According to Peter King (Sports Illustrated), and to your disappointment, Alex Smith will be playing in the NFL next year.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    Now that he's getting more consistent minutes, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Three point shooting is a commodity in the NBA, teams can hide Jimmer's defensive deficiencies. Korver certainly wasn't a super defender in his time in Utah. Mo Williams isn't a super defender either. Jimmer could do well as a role player if he found a team that suited him better. The Kings are too willy nilly.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Jimmer is a unique talent, he needs to find a team that believes in him.

    Remember the old adage, "you are only as good as your coach believes you are!"

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    Damian Lillard is tearing up the NBA. Going to be rookie of the year...

    ...but Jimmer had jock-itch this week, let's talk about that.

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Jan. 28, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    Thanks PP, and yup niners, you completely missed the point. Obviously, I know the two play different sports, but the two were both first round draft picks, thrown into a terrible situation where they underperformed, received a lot of criticism, etc. My point is that Smith waited things out and found some success (and I congratulate the way Smith has handled himself this year, even more than leading his team to the conference finals last year). Considering Jimmer is in the top ten in three point %, there are teams that could and will use him, and if he waits things out, we will all see that he will make a name for himself.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    yES!! I new he would come back stronger and better than ever. Sacrominto will regret not playing him all the times.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 3:46 p.m.


    You continue TRYING to make Alex Smith into one of the biggest flops at the #1 pick of all time, having even placed him in the top 3 in one of your comments.

    Funny thing though, when I go back only 22 years ... the 1990 draft ... I can list at least 10 players out of those 22 that most critics would tell you were larger disappointments than Alex.

    You're so entirely far away from reality on this topic that it's ridiculous.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    Duck hunter

    When jimmer leads the kings to the western conference finals as starting PG we will begin to compare jimmer and Alex smith. For now I'd day jimmers career looks more like Ty detmers career, stuck at 2nd string. Although at this point jimmer would love to be 2nd string!

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Jan. 28, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    Do you think the lack of playing is related to his inability to guard anything besides the statute of John Stockton?

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Jan. 28, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    Chris B:

    Hows that inferiority complex workin for ya?

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    I hope that Chris B will send a postcard from Germany. Europe is a nice place for an extended visit.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 2:01 p.m.


    alex smith has had very little "success" as you call it. He is one of the worst #1 overall picks in NFL history. But the comparison was basically spot on between he and Jimmer. The difference being Jimmer is only in his 2nd year, smith has failed for 8 years including failing to keep his job this year. Really not good at all.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    In case anyone wondered, Damian Lillard is #1 on the Blazers depth chart, rookie of the month for Nov and Dec, and averaging 18 ppg with 6.5 assists pg. But hey, lets keep talking about Jimmer.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:32 p.m.


    I hear Frankfurt is nice this time of year. Send a postcard.
    Apparently Christine B knows as little about Germany as she does about sports.

    niners - you totally missed the point (not a surprise for jealous and defensive little brothers). Alex smith was in a bad situation and when he had a chance he did poorly. But by sticking it out he finally made a name for himself. He is an example of what Jimmer needs to do.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Looks to me like the whole ute team should head to turkey and play. 1-7 in league gotta love moving to the pac10+2 more fodder for the Arizona's and UCLA's....lol

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Somehow, some day, the Celtics will end up with Fredette.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    @ Dave

    Why compare jimmer to Alex smith? Two different sports. And smith has been more successful than jimmer will ever be. How about we compare him a utah basketball star like van horn (22 points 8 Rebs in 2nd season), Andre miller (15 points 8 assists 4 Rebs in 2nd year), Andrew bogut (12 pts 9 Rebs 3 assists in 2nd season) or even Michael doleac (7 pts 4 Rebs in second season). I guess I just don't understand the comparison to a football player. I understand jimmers career doesn't look very promising but come on...

  • SoCal Roger Costa Mesa, CA
    Jan. 28, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Aren't the Celtics looking for a guard now with Rondo injured? Could we see a deal in the works for a trade?

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Jan. 28, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    "not only does Jimmer lead the Kings in 3-point shooting at 43.8 percent, he is among the top 10 best long-range marksmen in the entire league."

    ChrissyB, there's an NBA team out there with this kind of need. As I see other headlines dealing with Alex Smith, trust me, Jimmer's time will come.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 11:50 a.m.


    I hear Frankfurt is nice this time of year. Send a postcard.