BYU football: Brayden Kearsley re-commits to BYU after nearly choosing Oregon State

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 10:02 p.m.


    I'm not saying utah should have passed on any of them, but I am saying getting a "4 star" jc recruit is not like getting a 4 star high school recruit. You only get 2 years out of a jc guy which means they are about half as valuable as a 4 star hs guy. You need to get two 4 star jc guys just to get the playing time of one 4 star high school recruit.

    utah almost never gets 4 star high school recruits, most of those they get are short timer jc guys. BYU usually get a couple of 4 star hs guys every year. I would say bYU does a far better job recruiting higher rated 4 star talent than utah does.

    That said I don't think the stars matter that much. Obviously there is some vailidity to it but there are far to many low rated players that turn into really good players, and far to many highly rated players that don't, for it to be as important as you utah "fans" try to make it.

    As for 4 star jc guys? Well let me know when anthony denham does anything at all.

  • cougarSNV Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 25, 2013 9:08 p.m.

    I appreciate Y Grad/Y Dad's point. Y fans do have a responsibility. Well Said.

    It will be interesting to see how the team does next year with an O.C. that can be allowed to run the offense without a big need for direction. The foundation of a real good Offensive line will allow the QB to find the open man.

    Already looking forward to next year!

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 25, 2013 4:44 p.m.


    In the incoming class:

    According to Scout, Utah has commitments from 6 JC players. Out of 27.

    Of BYU's 26 committed players, 5 are from a Junior College.

    Which of the following list of ex-JC Utah football players do you think the Utes should have passed on signing?

    John White
    Reggie Dunn
    Trevor Reilly
    Star Lotulelei

    John Cullen
    Matt Asiata
    Robert Johnson
    Quinton Ganther
    Paul Soliai
    Steve Smith

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    @NavalVet "but according to THIS article, Anae's top recruiting priority was.....the lone 4-star recruit in this class. Not (3-star) Ragin. Not (2-star) Weichert."

    I'm going to take a wild guess that the stars weren't the important factor, but Kearsley's position was. BYU's OL was awful last year and we needed depth there. Hence the fact that this week alone, BYU has received commits from 3 OL (including Kearsley). We're already loaded at LB (Ragin) and WR (Weichers), so those guys weren't as important.

    It appears that BYU is recruiting based on their needs, not stars. I know that's a novel concept for you, Naval, but you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll be able to understand why that's important if you think about it long enough.

    I'm just glad that Utah has finally started recruiting QB's. Maybe they'll be able to have an offense that finishes higher than 100th in the nation this year?

    Go Cougars!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    @vegas ute

    Getting a jc guy is not comparable to getting a high school guy. jc guys are stop gaps, guys that are only there for a couple of years. If you are touting "4 star" jc guys as some sort of evidence of "superior" utah recruiting then I do find it funny.

    Sure most programs get a jc guy of two each year but utah fills 1/4 of thier class with those guys. It shows they cannot get top high schoolers and need to "fill gaps" almost every year.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 24, 2013 6:24 p.m.

    Earlier this week, word out of Provostan was that "stars don't matter", but according to THIS article, Anae's top recruiting priority was.....the lone 4-star recruit in this class. Not (3-star) Ragin. Not (2-star) Weichert.

    Just (4-star) Kearsley.

    I guess the "stars don't matter" mantra only applies when it begins to look like you aren't going to get very many. That's called "Cognitive Dissonance".

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    Most of this years recruits, for BYU, are irrelevant for a few years.
    What to look at are the recruits from 2 and 3 years ago which have now come home from their missions. Bronco has done a nice job managing the stream.

    And with Holmoe making it very clear to Bronco, that the Offense belongs to Anae now, things are looking up.

    You sorry ute fans only need to worry about your Pac 12 brethren from now on.
    BYU is not your competition anymore.
    U never could trump BYU's overall success in their athletic program.

    The fact that Utah has the smallest budget, worst facilities and fan support in the Pac, is not encouraging. Add the fact that Utah is near the bottom in Academics and recruiting further demonstates that Utah is in for decades of cellar dwelling, in just about every sport.

    It's why Whitttingham was the only one not smiling at the Pac-12 announcement.
    He knew that Utah would generally not be competitive.

    So settle in Wannabees and dream of one day having a National Championship, Heisman and Outland winners or maybe even producing actual College Hall of Famers or Super Bowl/NFL MVP'S.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 24, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    "With only 4 of Utah's recruits (14%) receiving fewer than 3-stars, it looks like..."

    blah, blah, blah

    All of those "stars" will just make it that much more embarrassing for U when the Utes finish 3-9 with no bowl in 2013,

    while big brother, with all of those "un-stars", is enjoying another fun bowl bowl, this time in San Francisco.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 24, 2013 4:51 p.m.


    Your 1:26 p.m. post was well researched and intelligent. But remember, objectivity and logic are not what most of those who troll these posts prefer. It's about emotion!



    If "JV guys do not count," then why to most college programs, including your beloved Cougars (who have 5 ready to sign), bother recruiting them? And why do scouting sites bother grading them?


    It sounds like this guy should be a solid player. Good luck Brayden, and BYU. Except when you face the Utes, of course!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 24, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    Good thing the Y was able to keep Kearsley, since they just lost 3-star (#65 LB) Johnny Ragin, III to the Pac-12 (Cal), and instead replaced him with a commitment from somebody I'd never heard of, and who hadn't been rated with any stars. That brings the cougars to a recruiting class with over 70% of their commits rated by Rivals with 2-stars or less.

    With only 4 of Utah's recruits (14%) receiving fewer than 3-stars, it looks like big brother is about to get out-2-star recruited by the cougs once again.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 24, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    @Ducky - they do not count only in your world. Besides - Lotuleilei & Dre'Vian Young are NOT JC!!

    Just as I knew - lil ducky only has spin and selective information.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Jan. 24, 2013 3:24 p.m.

    Anae knows good talent on the offensive line after coaching linemen at Texas Tech, BYU and Arizona. The fact that he made this kid a priority as soon as he was hired is proof enough that BYU just landed an outstanding new recruit.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 3:13 p.m.


    JC guys do not count.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 24, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    Y wannabe / U Grad Pumping Gas

    It's as simple as math

    Braden Kearsley + KVN = HUGE + for BYU for 2013.

    Johnny Ragin only switched to Cal because he didn't want to spend a year riding the pine behind KVN after Van Noy decided to return for his senior year at BYU.

    Not a big deal - BYU can use the scholly for another OL, which is BYU's most pressing need in this recruiting class anyway.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 24, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    Good luck to Brayden, BYU got a nice pick up.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 24, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    @ Ducky:

    "utah doesn't have any "above" 3 star recruits."

    Rivals: Utah 4 stars 1
    byU 4 stars 1
    Utah 3 stars 23
    byU 3 stars 7

    Scout: Utah 4 stars 0
    byU 4 stars 1
    Utah 3 stars 16
    byU 3 stars 8

    Espn: Utah 4 stars 1
    byU 4 stars 1
    Utah 3 stars 24
    byU 3 stars 12
    Unranked Utah 1
    Unranked byU 7

    247 Sports
    Utah 4 stars 3
    byU 4 stars 0
    Utah 3 stars 20
    byU 3 stars 11

    247 Composite
    Utah 4 stars 0
    byU 4 stars 1
    Utah 3 stars 25
    byU 3 stars 15

    No spin, just facts: best case scenario, byU 1 4 star, 15 3 stars. Utah, 3 4 star, 25 3 star. Worst case, byU 0 4 star, 7 3 star, (7 unranked). Utah 0 4 star, 16 3 star.

    Care to revise your statement, or is spin and selective information all you have?

  • Y Grad Pumping Gas Beaver, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    Its as simple as Math

    Braden Kearsley minus Johnny Ragin equals Zero

    Coug Nation is a wash, Bronco looses them as fast as he gains them.

    Tom Holmoe should be out recruiting, to find out just how hard it is for the coaching staff to sell INDY snake oil to high school kids. Get in a BCS conference its a must! Then the recruits will stick to their word.

    New Tshirt; Find a HomeO

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Jan. 24, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    Now, now. No taunting, please.

  • SoCalTrueBlue2 San Diego, CA
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Yes, Mildred and Ernest are U-trolls, but I love their tongue in cheek humor.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:37 a.m.

    Why are U worried about BYU's recruiting class? Remember U are in the mighty PAC12. U should be commenting in the Rocky Mountain News and LA Times, calling out the Trojans and the Buffs for their recruiting class.

    And if U truly believe that stars are the only thing that determines success, U are headed for a long run as a cellar dwellar. Every team in the PAC, except Colorado, has more 4 star recruits than U.

    I guarantee there will be some 0, 1, or 2 star recruits in BYUs recruiting class who will turn out to be high impact players. I also guarantee there will be some 3 star recruits for both Utah and BYU who turn out to be duds. Since we both have only one 4 star recruit, I'll defer judgement.

    I've heard great things about Kearsley. I think he'll be a high impact player.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:34 a.m.


    utah doesn't have any "above" 3 star recruits.


  • byufan1993 Provo, , UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:31 a.m.


    Mildred and Ernest are known trolls. Don't mistake them for real BYU fans.

  • SoCalTrueBlue2 San Diego, CA
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Does anyone remember Famika Anae, the sophomore O-Line player who started one game last fall and then had to retire because of a horrible knee injury? His one start was a bright spot for the entire season of the BYU O-Line in 2012. He played with attitude and heart as he flattened defensive players on the other team. Very glad to have his father back as a BYU coach. Excited that Coach Anae has landed a major recruit such as Brayden Kearsley. Looking forward to better play from the O-Line, which means a stronger offense in coming years.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    I watched the highlight vid. May I please have some eggs and bacon to go with all the pancakes!!!! He looks mean and nasty on film. I hope he brings it to Provo!!! Nice pick up.


    Jan. 24, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    Mildred, you and Ernest Bass get away ahead of yourselves over these recruits. Calm down a little and let's see how they pan out first.

    Jan. 24, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    Howard S.

    Taylorsville, UT

    4 star?

    I thought the collective Cougar Nation had decided that stars don't matter.

    Unless they do... in which case Utah has 24 3 star and above commitments and BYU has 8.

    Not that stars matter..."

    Do Ute fans get a star each time they leave a comment on an article pertaining to BYU?

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    We will now have one of the best O-lines in the country.

  • byufan1993 Provo, , UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    Wayne Rout

    I don't care about stars. And you can't say taha because we got a 4 star recruit we suddenly changed our minds. No, he was offered for the same reasons as all the other recruits. Coach Mendenhall and Anae feel like he will fit in well in the BYU system and that he will abide by the Honor Code and be an outstanding student first. The ranking still doesn't matter. It just means that the world will actually recognize him (or any other star recruit) whereas BYU would recognize him even if he wasn't a four-star recruit. Stars still mean nothing. It's up to him to be great and the coaches to help him along the way and mentor him. It's never about stars.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    One more in the long line of great NFL linemen. O-line U and still LB-U and QB-U!!!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 24, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    Wayne, how long are you going to grind that ax? You're already down to the handle...

    If it requires an answer, then yes, the two events were more dissimilar than alike. Braydon says he is going to "bust his hump." His teammates will know how much is talk and how much is walk.

    Finally, amen to the poster who was disturbed by the negative responses from fans. It may be naive but I really hope for better from fans of BYU. I have grown so weary of the "we're fans, we have a right..." mentality. You are fans of the university that represents the church of Jesus Christ. You have a responsibility.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    4 star?

    I thought the collective Cougar Nation had decided that stars don't matter.

    Unless they do... in which case Utah has 24 3 star and above commitments and BYU has 8.

    Not that stars matter...

  • dUrrdy-bUrrdz BurdVille, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    WOW!!! Nice pick up, kid looks like awsome on his film!!! Congratz kid and Coach Anae. Wish we could of picked him up and get our o-line back to the good ol' days. Go UTES!

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    It was almost yesterday that we heard that BYU has no interest in highly ranked recruits? This must mean that he fields punts in practice? Seriously, I am glad that the Cougars may get a good prospect. I am glad that we have a new offense even if it is the old offense. I wonder how many other players we lost because of an offense geared strickly to playing Riley Nelson rather than winning?

  • 5 Orem, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:11 a.m.

    For Brayden's sake I hope Bronco doesn't read about the press conference. That is definitely not a blue collar thing to do. Just look at what happened to the quarterback who did that. He could never penetrate the overachiever club of blue collar athletes to gain their support. The culture of a team is reflective of the haed coach. However the hiring of Anae may be an indication that Bronco is willing to allow assistants to bring a different philosophy to broaden the team culture. Else why would Anae come back. things may be looking up in cougarville.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:03 a.m.

    Hmmmm, did I just read the words 4 stars, Anae, PAC12 and recommitted to BYU in the same article?

    I know some kids 'on a hill' that are not going to be happy about this.

    I wonder what other surprises Coach Anae is going to bring?

    Congrats to Brayden for his decision, BYU is a great place, it's where traditions are born and mean something for the rest of your life.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:00 a.m.

    I am happy to see this young man coming to BYU but it troubles me to hear that he got a lot of grief when he looked at other schools and programs. This is his decision. We can not make his decision just like he can not make any of ours. Can you imagine people on twitter telling me who I need to marry or where I should work or go to school? He needs to listen to all the programs, make the best decision and then confirm that with his maker. Then he states where he has chosen to go and we as grown mature adults respect that. We wish him the best of luck where ever and move on. I hope that this is the case here. We do not want someone at BYU or anywhere for that matter that is only there because someone else wants them to. Best of luck Brayden.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    This is a great pick up for the Cougs. He will add much need strength to the O Line. I expect to see him either start or get significant minutes from the two deep his Freshman year.

    Taysom Hill will be a star with a solid O line in front of him.

    It's great to hear that Coach Anae is having a positive impact on recruiting already.

  • Legal Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 2:16 a.m.

    Looking better for the Y. This seems to be one indicator as to how wise it was to change the offensive coaches. Good luck BYU.