Maybe this is a good moment to remember that the reason the colonists settled
here originally was, partly, in response to forced state religion. If you care,
however, to cuddle up with your favorite search engine, you'll learn that
some non-Christians believe in the Old Testament; although some may not believe,
as Christians do, that Jesus is the Son of God, some believe He is a prophet,
or, at least, a wise man, and revere His mother, Mary. There is, indeed, more
connecting the three largest religions, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, than
most people would think, including much relating to their roots in the Holy
Land. Indeed, there is more connecting all of us, and I would say, that would
include our atheist brothers and sisters, if we would simply take the time to
look for it. We all stand for something, some common standards of behavior, of
what is good and right in regards to how we should treat our brethren. Look for
that, not the differences. Isn't that why our forefathers gave us a form of
government that could grow with our ability to mature as a people?
@ Redshirt: Perhaps, before you make unfounded accusations about hypocrisy, you
should actually spend the time to read the article on which you are commenting.
Redshirt1701,The 10 commandments posted in courthouses and parks are
"official" by virtue of the fact that they are exploiting public funds
as well as creating a legal association between the State or Federal Government
and a particular religion.That is not the same thing as a President
who personally believes in god saying an unsolicited personal phrase as part of
his expression of his oath of office."This is a point of
hypocrisy that the anti-thiests cry over anything conservatives do but have no
problem with liberals."Nonsense. I AM a conservative atheist.
You are seeing things that are not there, and the fact you can't cite data
to support your assertion says a lot.
To "A Scientist" the 10 commandments that have been posted in court
houses and parks are not part of the formal laws that are enforced, yet Athiests
and anti-thiests have problems with those.I didn't say that
this applies only to the oath of office. This is a point of hypocrisy that the
anti-thiests cry over anything conservatives do but have no problem with
liberals. See "Atheist Group Attacks Catholics Like Ryan, Quiet on Liberal
Nuns" at MediaTrackers.Where is the consistancy?
Redshirt1701 wrote:"The irony is that the athiests don't
seem to care about this obvious mix of church and state. Why is it that when
religion is used by a liberal it is ok, but conservatives have to hide their
religion or else be attacked by the anti-thiests?"You are right.
We should have had someone standing next to Obama to put their had over his
mouth as soon as he tried to say the "G-word".The good news
is, it was not an official, formal part of the swearing-in ceremony to PROMPT
the President to invoke a god.But please show us where atheists have
opposed any Conservative President voluntarily invoking god in their swearing-in
The irony is that the athiests don't seem to care about this obvious mix of
church and state. Why is it that when religion is used by a liberal it is ok,
but conservatives have to hide their religion or else be attacked by the
Pagan wrote:"President Obama is Christian."Yes,
but I like him anyway.
So praying for our President-elect, as the LDS Church leaders advised after the
election, is beginning to pay off?
Ok. I guess Obama is 'not' christian...whenever it suits
conservatives.So, if Obama is 'not' christian when he 1)
goes to Christian services 2) mentions God...what makes Obama
different from every other President?
Hutter,Please tell us the howling of which you speak. Every President
since Chester Arthur has added the tag line. Are you aware of some earlier
howling - say, at James Monroe's swearing in?
BHO says a lot of things he doesn't mean just to look and sound good.
Haven't you noticed? This is one event I totally skipped today.
It's not that they add the tagline. It's the howling that goes on when
President Obama is Christian. Told ya.