BYU men's basketball: Cougars trying to move on after crushing Saint Mary's loss

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  • Lionheart West Jordan, Ut
    Jan. 19, 2013 6:08 a.m.

    Apparently "hail Marys" really work. It was a well fought game by both teams and my hat goes off to them both.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    I am still wondering why we didn't get the ball to Anson Winder after Dellavadova got his fourth foul? Either he gets a relatively easy basket or his fifth foul. Advantage Cougars.

    We also had some very dumb possessions, Davies cranking up a three with 25 seconds on the shot clock, his forced post moves when the team had been hitting threes, some drives by Carlino that went nowhere.

  • jim greding thousand oaks, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    rebounding is about wanting the basketball more than anyone else...either offence or defense..clearly BYU was expecting the ball to always go in the hoop and were just standing around,,,they need to want it more....I dont have the stats ,,but I would bet Sharp has more rebounds per min, played than anyone else..and he was polishing the pine when they needed boards.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Jan. 18, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    The Cougz played acceptable D for the last 2.5 seconds. If they had called a timeout, then St. Mary's could have set up a play and still could have got off a 40 foot shot at the buzzer. The 2 closest defenders did a decent job of pressuring him a little and not trying to take a charge and not giving him a chance to pick up a tacky foul which could have let him tie it at the free throw line. He was taking 2 running steps and not just pulling up so if the defenders had tried to more closely pressure Delly then Delly could have tried to initiate contact. Forcing someone to make a 40 footer to beat you is still OK defense.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Jan. 18, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    Doesn't matter! BYU will win 17-18 games this year. My Butler Dogs will beat The Zags tomorrow...BYU will lose two to Gonzaga...and a few others. Its like a death spiral!!

    Trust me, I know, Utah has been in one for a while now...

    You'll beat SD...that's a good thing!

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    @ jim greding- I thought the same thing when Davies was called for his 5th foul. My guess is squarely his undisciplined nature. He's not taking over games the way he should as a Senior.

  • jim greding thousand oaks, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 1:55 p.m.

    hummm 6'-9" and no rebounds ? oh yea..I was too busy chasing the point guard at mid court to be in a position to rebound..Is he really that undisciplined? or just bad coaching.Whos stearing the ship.

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    One other big thing led to the loss. On the next to the last possesion just prior to the big three pointer to end the game Dellavedova ran over and pushed off his man in an obvious charging call but the result was a basket for St Marys to tie the game and the Aussie still in as it would have been his 5th foul.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    Sometimes those lucky shots just don't fall your way. IF only we had just made one of our missed baskets, if only.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    I repeat myself, but this team is not there yet. They'll be pretty good, but not great. But they are improving. I don't see them in the NCAAs this year. They just can't beat good teams.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Is Davies still nursing a sore ankle? We need some truth out here, if it isn't injury, then set him on the bench. If it is injury, it would be nice to know, and lay off the kid.

    His game is sparse, and the only two explanations I can think of: Injury, or poor coaching to help him be a better player.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    It was a great shot, and it should teach the Cougars a valuable lesson about playing the entire game. I have not seen BYU play well for th4e number of minutes in a game that they should in order to beat the good teams. I expected the loss and I got it. Davies needs to be better at not fouling out and being in foul trouble so much. He's a great player who needs to play. Oh well, It looks like another 3rd place finish in the WCC for us and I now worry big time for an NCAA bid. It's not looking good for that. They really needed to split with Gonzaga and St Mary's and win all the rest. It's not over, but...

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    Re: Poyman- "The biggest issue however, (in my mind) deals with the fact that the Cougs gave St.Mary's a 30' inbound pass uncontested after Haws hit what should have been the game winner." I couldn't agree with you more. That's where not only the players fell asleep at the switch after Haws' basket, but the coaching staff did as well. With 2.5 seconds remaining, you call a time-out and draw up a defensive plan to prevent such uncontested plays-- the inbound pass and the shot itself. I've seen matadors do better than Winder did "defending" Dellavedova's shot. But, give the Aussie some credit. That was a heck of a shot. Broke our hearts, but a heck of a shot!

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    6 turnovers. I swear by blood pressure shoots up every time I see Carlino with the ball! No doubt the Cougs needs more consistent, steady production for their point guard. If you compare Matt's stats over the past two seasons, there's no marked improvement. He's pretty steady across the board, if not dropped slightly. That's no where near the "improvement" we were expecting out of the point guard position. Come on, Matt. We've got faith in ya, but you gotta pick up your game. My heart can't handle anything else!

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:50 p.m.

    A tough loss if you're a Cougar fan and a Great Victory if you cheer for the Gaels... BYU had a ton of opportunities... A big lesson on why every free throw is imporatnt... Haws had a great game but missed an opportunity to put BYU up by 9 right before the half when the 92% FT shooter missed the front of a one and one...

    The biggest issue however, (in my mind) deals with the fact that the Cougs gave St.Mary's a 30' inbound pass uncontested after Haws hit what should have been the game winner... The only shot that St. Mary's had was a Transition Basket and so I guess I would have called timeout after Haws made basket to set the Defense and get some heigth on the inbound pass... Put a taller guy on Dellavadeva and make him shoot over the Defender.

    One of the biggest heartbreaker's I have seen, rivaled ony by the USA Gold Medal Loss to Russia in 1972, and the Duke win over Kentucky in the early 90's in the elite 8... The Ainge basket against Notre Dame was also like that (only we got to cheer on that one).

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    The Cougs will be just fine. St. Mary's is a great team. We are seeing great improvement with the young players. The future looks bright for years. We just need some more quality big men and they will be terrific.