Sundance Festival opens amid national, local criticism over film

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  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    Diversity that includes the elements that are debasing is not good. I call it "deworsification". Diversity is good only if the components of that diversity are good. Of course, the challenge is to determine if something is good or not. I will only say that a lot of what Hollywood and the independent film-makers produce is degrading and corrosive to the human soul, and saying that it value through its "diversification" is an assault on logic. Freedom of expression is an American value to be cherished. But equally important is personal restraint that reflects values that uplift hearts and minds. Too much of what filmmakers produce may entertain for a night, but degrades us all slowly.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    So much hate over one man and one festival, really people? there is a whole world out there to explore, try getting out once and a while.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    JCS: "Modern Hollywood has become a cesspool of violence and immorality. Not only does Sundance reflect this immorality and violence, it magnifies it... Redford and the other left-wing producers are filling their movies with wanton sexuality and violence..."

    Yeah. I saw a lot of that in "The Brave Little Toaster" and "Hoosiers." And "Napolean Dynamite" was certainly violent, with the ligers and all. And "Wordplay," "Mad Hot Ballroom," "March of the Penguins," or "Hoop Dreams"? Really perverse.

    I am curious about how many of the armchair critics here have actually attended the festival or seen more than a handful of its films, either at the fest or in subsequent screenings. I've seen well over a hundred at the festival and countless more later at theaters or on television. Come on, guys, tell us how much of your opinion is based on actual experience and direct observation and how much is just on second-hand rumor and speculation. I fully grant that it is not necessary to pick up a red hot horseshoe off the anvil to know that it will burn, but I'm interested in knowing how people's opinions of the festival are formed.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    Sundance Film Festival is indeed the loudest bark for those listening and watching. However, unspoken is Redford's 'broadminded' support of empowering, emboldening, and embracing some of societies most degenerate and destructive forces and its attendant philosophy, i.e. that immorality, violence, and selfishness are just a choice, no better or worse than all the other choices people make. That philosophy is the most narrow minded of all, for they don't allow any choice. An irony,indeed, considering Redford's own stated purpose for the festival.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    "Sometimes the narrowest mind barks the loudest"

    So liberals are protesting the Sundance Film Festival. That's weird.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Jan. 18, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    Back in the day, Bob went to capital hill to outlaw folks taking helicopter rides above sun dance.
    Guess what Bob was doing right after that law passed?
    Correct. He was in a helicopter landing up above sun dance.

    And if you feel like 99% don't care about Utah, then I'm sure others states would be happier for for you.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    Sundance is now about the honor of being in sundance. There's nothing going on at Sundance that isn't being done on YouTube. The difference is that bigname actors and actresses participate in artsy films for the accolades of the festival itself. It's a chance to get together, network and keep Hollywood a few levels above everyone else in their great and spacious building. It's about hubris, it keeps Hollywood relevant in entertainment, and really is just a snub to what the public is doing on its own with this new age of digital film tools.

    Occasionally they take an "aspiring" filmmaker and dress him/her up in the Emperor's clothes for a day, but again, they're the ones doing it, so all in all they maintain control.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:36 p.m.

    When it comes to attempts to weaken values, the usual answer is MONEY. Ah, I see that Robert Redford supplied the expected justification quote. He also supplied a number of non-answer answers about film content and the documented dangers of extreme violence.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    "Sometimes the narrowest mind barks the loudest, and we've, over time, just come to ignore it,"

    That's a fantastic quote. There are already a few "barks" on this message board.

    I get a kick out of watching Utah conservatives fume and rail against Robert Redford any time he shows up in the news. Here we have a entrepreneurial businessman who excelled in his field, carved out a successful ski resort, promotes the state worldwide to our economic benefit, and co-founded a remarkably successful film festival that brings in revenue and creates positive press for Utah. You know, a job creator. And Utah conservatives can't stand him. Cracks me up every time.

    "A note to Redford - 95% of Utah ignores you"

    You badly overestimate the extent of your political demographic in this state. And you forget that 99.99% of the world ignores Utah.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    Bob believes his own fairy tale.

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:34 p.m.

    Does that narrow mind include all the recent barking from the left? The are soooooo loud.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:23 p.m.

    Modern Hollywood has become a cesspool of violence and immorality. Not only does Sundance reflect this immorality and violence, it magnifies it.

    Redford and the other left-wing producers are filling their movies with wanton sexuality and violence precisely because they do want the viewers to be changed by what they see. Modern Hollywood has an open and stated agenda of destroying traditional marriage and family. Indoctrinating the ignorant masses with the belief that violence and sexuality are purely recreational activities goes a long way towards furthering this agenda.

    In short, Sundance denigrates every traditional value that has made Utah great. Thus, not one cent of taxpayer money should go to support it.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Sundance exists to promote independent film, that is, film not necessarily aimed at providing the largest financial return on investment (like the studio blockbusters at the megaplex), but at stimulating thought.

    As a Sundance veteran, I 've seen my share of clunkers that fell short in some way. Some have lousy production values, some have gratuitous sex or violence, some are just incomprehensible. But even the most mediocre made you think. And the best, well, they can shine in glorious transcendence and the festival succeeds in its purpose.

    I will admit that there is an art to reading between the lines in the overly obscure descriptions in the festival guide. The editors could be more forthright with sensitivity ratings. But the typical audience member is not a lowest-common-denominator filmgoer. People go to Sundance on purpose to be provoked and moved. They are not the type to be offended by the same things the Sutherland Institute is. There is no harm in state support. The state does not have to cater to the most sensitive bluenoses.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:28 p.m.

    "Sometimes the narrowest mind barks the loudest, and we've, over time, just come to ignore it,"

    I have heard Redford's absurd and ugly American hating comments in the past on a variety of issues as well as his "anything goes" moral code. I would love to hear what Redford thinks of the teachings in the New Testament. I'm sure he would label all of the authors in the New Testament as narrow minded and to be ignored.

    A note to Redford - 95% of Utah ignores you!!!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Is Robert talking about his narrow mind when it comes to approving violence in films, or just another shot at Utah's organizations?

  • The Jimmer Okemos, MI
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    If the state were to pay to show an R-rated or X-rated film on the Capitol lawn during the summer, do you think any Utahns would be upset? Yes, probably a lot of them. That's just about what they're doing by contributing money to Sundance and attaching their name to it.

    I don't think anyone objects to Sundance showing whatever movies it wants, just the fact that the state is helping fund it and openly endorsing it -- disgusting movies and family-oriented ones.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    I think Robert Nails it "Sometimes the narrowest mind barks the loudest, and we've, over time, just come to ignore it," he said.
    He also noted that the 10-day festival brings in roughly $80 million to the local economy each year.
    The Sutherland Institute, The Eagle Form, The Heritage foundation, Glenn, Sean, Rush all things I've learned to just ignore as silly clubs and ego's