Duckhunter, it would be next to impossible to sift through every article to find
it, but you gushed about how Cahoon's experience and longevity in Canadian
Football would bolster and teach BYU's young receivers. And that pretty
much comes out in your assessment of him here in spite of BYU's assessment
of him in letting him go and trying to bring in Roderick.
The spin from Utah fans about Roderick's departure to BYU was soooo
predictable it's almost sad how immature and shallow the kids on the hill
really are.Roderick has been an excellent coach for the Utes for
years, so much so, that Whittingham was paying him well above the typical salary
level of a position coach. There's little doubt Whittingham was keeping
Roderick around to tutor BJ and as his backup plan in case his gamble with BJ
didn't work out.Without Roderick's help, BJ's rocky
first year would have been an even bigger disaster.Sorry Duckhunter,
but I have to disagree with your assessment of Cahoon versus Roderick. I think
both are very capable receivers coaches, but Roderick also brings an offensive
depth of knowledge and close working relationship with Anae that Cahoon simply
@stgWhat "premature praise of Ben Cahoon" did I make?
I'm willing to bet you cannot find a single such comment from me. That said
I think Cahoon has done a pretty good job with the wr's whereas A-Rod has
not turned out much at utah.
Meh, you can have him. Utah's receivers took a major step back while on
Just wondering how loyal this guy is. He's apparently left once and to
BYU's 'mortal football' enemy of all places! NOW he's back
(and for how long)? Not sure I trust him; I question his flitting allegiance
and wonder why the coaches are so quick to embrace him!
Good luck, Coach Roderick.
phoenix, that was exactly my point, hello. I know many Utes fans that have been
saying the same thing about Roderick for a while now. Ironically it seems
Duckhunter is the only realistic BYU fan about this hire, regardless of whether
that's just because ARod has been at Utah for so long, or if he's
since learned from his premature praise of Ben Cahoon.
Marked it Down, I know exactly how practices are run, and very few times during
the week do the offensive 1's go live against the defensive 1's, and
that does not involve the intricate and elaborate gameplans on either side of
the ball. I'm not saying he will be clueless about anything Utah runs, but
pretending like he knows everything Whit and Sitake will throw at him is a bit
farfetched. If anything, the most intimate knowledge he will bring will be about
Johnson's offensive tendencies.As much as you would love to
imagine there is, like I said, there's not much blow to soften for me about
losing ARod. He was a decent recruiter (in my opinion not in the top 3 currently
on staff), a bad offensive coordinator when he held the job, and managed to
develop low-rated recruits into average contributors and developed highly-rated
recruits into average contributors. When I've met him, he's a nice
guy, so I've no personal problems with him, and wish him well. And for your
sake, I'm glad you're excited about having him.
Had he gone to Michigan or Nebraska or even Wisconsin with Anderson many would
have expressed disappointment, but because he chose the rival, he is now a bad
coach and not worth anything. Sad commentary.Just like the
recruiting game, if they sign with you school, they are great prospects. Go the
other way and they are poor prospects, good riddance. But should they de-commit
and return, they are great prospects again.Sad commentary.
Hmmmm, interesting pick up by the Cougars. Time will tell.
A-Rod has wanted to come back to BYU for a while now. He admits having a hard
time coaching against BYU, while on the other hand Sitake and Whit have never
said anything similar.
StGtoSLC"so we should also not blame Weber at all for BYU's
O Line this year never knowing the snap count or how to effectively block
opposing defenses..."No, you can blame Weber all you want;
that's why he left, because he knew his days at BYU were numbered anyway.
StGtoSLC"Roderick never coached against Utah's schemes
except against a very simplified version during fall two-a-days and spring
camps."So you're telling me that Utah practiced never used
any of their elaborate defensive schemes in practice? That when the 1's
went against the 1's in practice, Utah kept everything vanilla on both
sides of the ball?Either you're totally clueless about how
teams practice for games, or you're just spinning to soften the blow of
losing Roderick.Regardless, Roderick has been watching Utah's
defense in practice and in games for 8 years and he's seen every defensive
trick in Whittingham's book.Knowledge is power and Roderick
brings a wealth of knowledge with him to BYU.
Can't blame him for deserting a sinking ship.
Good luck to A-Rod. I think BYU got a pretty good coach here.
News Flash Utes! Your entire offensive has been dismal since the hiring of Brian
Johnson as the offensive coordinator. Just like the Y and Brandon Doman, he has
no experience running an offense. Yes he was a great quarterback, but an
offensive coordinator, he's not. BYU finally realized that about Doman, and
pulled the plug. The same thing should also happen on the hill. And yes, I do
root for the Utes, but I have not been a fan of Brian Johnson. He runs the
offense, not Aaron Roderick. Yes the receivers weren't that good this year,
but neither was the enitire Ute offense. Like another poster said, if the Utes
don't turn things around, the entire staff will be fired. Roderick got out
in time to get a better offer, while he still had a job. He would've been a
better coordinator than BJ. Utah made a mistake when they passed over Gary
Crowton, who by the way, is an offensive genious. He was not head coaching
material. Would've helped the Utes. Roderick will do well at th Y.
These comments are mostly silly.This might be good or bad for Utah,
it may be good or bad for BYU, who knows? Oh yeah, nobody.What makes
me angry is that in the pick his hat looks pink. Unacceptable.
BlueCoug, I just mentioned it on the Chip Kelly article, but it bears repeating:
Roderick never coached against Utah's schemes except against a very
simplified version during fall two-a-days and spring camps. He coached against
the scout team running what the opposing defense was expected to run, with maybe
a few of those players having a small chance to eventually be contributors on
Utah's defense.Rockwell, so we should also not blame Weber at
all for BYU's O Line this year never knowing the snap count or how to
effectively block opposing defenses, so BYU fans had no reason to openly
criticize and potentially run him into another program?
Welcome to BYU Coach A-Rod, sounds like a good hire. Let's get this
offense rolling again.
@SoundsRightBYU's better record might have something to do with
a patsy schedule. Utah beating BYU 8 out of the last 11 might have something to
do with them being the better team.
Head scratcher: why he would step backward. Bigger head scratcher - he made fun
of byU a LOT! I guess he is just getting used to demotions or byU has promised
him Anae's job when they dump Roscoe. Good luck to A-Rod, but
byU better hope he does a better job with their WRs than he did at Utah.
Mixed feelings on Roderick. Receivers have not been great. Lots of drops. The
talent was there but they rarely shined. But, Roderick seemed to be creative
and on target with his playing calling. Please Kyle, do not get Doman to
What? This has to be wrong! PAC 10.2 schools don't lose coaches to an
"irrelevant" institution. Maybe BYU is relevant after
all....yeah, we knew it all along. Welcome Coach Roderick hope to
see great things from the Cougar offense in years to come. Independence is working just fine.
RSLJAZZBYUUTAH"Wow, I didn't think Utah would let him
go."Utah didn't have a choice.After all of the
times A-Rod had been stabbed in the back by Whit, even Utah's PAC 12
bankroll simply wasn't big enough to bribe Roderick to stay with a failing
program any longer.
54-IQ"Utah's wide receivers have been average at best and
drops were a huge problem."Don't blame A-Rod because his
receivers weren't smart enough to run routes and had bricks for hands.
It was only a matter of time before AR was going to leave the Utes after he was
passed over. As a loyal Utah fan I wish him well, he was a quality coach for us.
With that said, I hope his feelings are not hurt to bad when The Utes beat the Y
for the 9th time out of 12 next fall.
Great news for BYU fans; a punch in the gut to Utah fans, but they can blame
Whit.Roderick felt slighted at Utah after being jacked around
between wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator, back to wide receivers
coach when Whittingham hired 25 year old Brian Johnson as the OC when Norm Chow
left.Roderick knows Utah's defensive schemes intimately, having
coached against Utah's defense every day in practice, and will be a great
asset to BYU.
He realized after next year all the Utah coaches would be looking for jobs
anyways. Great move for A rod. BYU has a much brighter future than the school
up north. BYU always seems to have a better record but lately Utah has won the
rivalry game. That goes to show they only care about that game and make it
their super bowl. With that mentality you will never be a team better than
6-6Great day to be a coug fan
I actually have to agree with 54-10, utah's wr's have been pretty bad
the last several years and Roderick was thier coach. I hope he is capable of
doing a better job at BYU.
ARod was never one of my favorite coaches. Regardless, the best of luck to him
in his new position. It'd be great to see Utah find an experienced
offensive mind to work with BJ, but what I see more likely is something like
Quinton Ganther being promoted from GA to RBs coach, and Jay Hill moving to
This is the best news of the coaching overall at BYU. Getting Roderick back to
BYU is huge. He was mismanaged at Utah. He was overlooked for their OC
position and then asked to basically come in and try to salvage their season.Roderick is probably the best offensive coach in the state right now. I
was hoping he would have replaced Doman, but this is almost as good. Nice...very nice.
Wow, I didn't think Utah would let him go. I guess he was still kind of
hurt when he was over looked for the OC job.
Good luck to Aaron on his new coaching job. He did a good job recruiting for
Utah and did not do as good of a job as a wide receivers coach. Utah's
wide receivers have been average at best and drops were a huge problem.