BYU football: Aaron Roderick leaves Utah for BYU

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    Jan. 17, 2013 10:26 p.m.

    Duckhunter, it would be next to impossible to sift through every article to find it, but you gushed about how Cahoon's experience and longevity in Canadian Football would bolster and teach BYU's young receivers. And that pretty much comes out in your assessment of him here in spite of BYU's assessment of him in letting him go and trying to bring in Roderick.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    The spin from Utah fans about Roderick's departure to BYU was soooo predictable it's almost sad how immature and shallow the kids on the hill really are.

    Roderick has been an excellent coach for the Utes for years, so much so, that Whittingham was paying him well above the typical salary level of a position coach. There's little doubt Whittingham was keeping Roderick around to tutor BJ and as his backup plan in case his gamble with BJ didn't work out.

    Without Roderick's help, BJ's rocky first year would have been an even bigger disaster.

    Sorry Duckhunter, but I have to disagree with your assessment of Cahoon versus Roderick. I think both are very capable receivers coaches, but Roderick also brings an offensive depth of knowledge and close working relationship with Anae that Cahoon simply doesn't possess.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:44 a.m.


    What "premature praise of Ben Cahoon" did I make? I'm willing to bet you cannot find a single such comment from me. That said I think Cahoon has done a pretty good job with the wr's whereas A-Rod has not turned out much at utah.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Meh, you can have him. Utah's receivers took a major step back while on his watch.

  • LadyMoon Orlando, FL
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:01 a.m.

    Just wondering how loyal this guy is. He's apparently left once and to BYU's 'mortal football' enemy of all places! NOW he's back (and for how long)? Not sure I trust him; I question his flitting allegiance and wonder why the coaches are so quick to embrace him!

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:17 a.m.

    Good luck, Coach Roderick.

    Jan. 17, 2013 12:29 a.m.

    phoenix, that was exactly my point, hello. I know many Utes fans that have been saying the same thing about Roderick for a while now. Ironically it seems Duckhunter is the only realistic BYU fan about this hire, regardless of whether that's just because ARod has been at Utah for so long, or if he's since learned from his premature praise of Ben Cahoon.

    Jan. 17, 2013 12:19 a.m.

    Marked it Down, I know exactly how practices are run, and very few times during the week do the offensive 1's go live against the defensive 1's, and that does not involve the intricate and elaborate gameplans on either side of the ball. I'm not saying he will be clueless about anything Utah runs, but pretending like he knows everything Whit and Sitake will throw at him is a bit farfetched. If anything, the most intimate knowledge he will bring will be about Johnson's offensive tendencies.

    As much as you would love to imagine there is, like I said, there's not much blow to soften for me about losing ARod. He was a decent recruiter (in my opinion not in the top 3 currently on staff), a bad offensive coordinator when he held the job, and managed to develop low-rated recruits into average contributors and developed highly-rated recruits into average contributors. When I've met him, he's a nice guy, so I've no personal problems with him, and wish him well. And for your sake, I'm glad you're excited about having him.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 11:23 p.m.

    Had he gone to Michigan or Nebraska or even Wisconsin with Anderson many would have expressed disappointment, but because he chose the rival, he is now a bad coach and not worth anything. Sad commentary.

    Just like the recruiting game, if they sign with you school, they are great prospects. Go the other way and they are poor prospects, good riddance. But should they de-commit and return, they are great prospects again.

    Sad commentary.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 9:08 p.m.

    Hmmmm, interesting pick up by the Cougars. Time will tell.

    Jan. 16, 2013 6:10 p.m.

    A-Rod has wanted to come back to BYU for a while now. He admits having a hard time coaching against BYU, while on the other hand Sitake and Whit have never said anything similar.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:46 p.m.


    "so we should also not blame Weber at all for BYU's O Line this year never knowing the snap count or how to effectively block opposing defenses..."

    No, you can blame Weber all you want; that's why he left, because he knew his days at BYU were numbered anyway.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:18 p.m.


    "Roderick never coached against Utah's schemes except against a very simplified version during fall two-a-days and spring camps."

    So you're telling me that Utah practiced never used any of their elaborate defensive schemes in practice? That when the 1's went against the 1's in practice, Utah kept everything vanilla on both sides of the ball?

    Either you're totally clueless about how teams practice for games, or you're just spinning to soften the blow of losing Roderick.

    Regardless, Roderick has been watching Utah's defense in practice and in games for 8 years and he's seen every defensive trick in Whittingham's book.

    Knowledge is power and Roderick brings a wealth of knowledge with him to BYU.

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    Can't blame him for deserting a sinking ship.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    Good luck to A-Rod. I think BYU got a pretty good coach here.

  • footballfrenzy Los Angeles, CA
    Jan. 16, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    News Flash Utes! Your entire offensive has been dismal since the hiring of Brian Johnson as the offensive coordinator. Just like the Y and Brandon Doman, he has no experience running an offense. Yes he was a great quarterback, but an offensive coordinator, he's not. BYU finally realized that about Doman, and pulled the plug. The same thing should also happen on the hill. And yes, I do root for the Utes, but I have not been a fan of Brian Johnson. He runs the offense, not Aaron Roderick. Yes the receivers weren't that good this year, but neither was the enitire Ute offense. Like another poster said, if the Utes don't turn things around, the entire staff will be fired. Roderick got out in time to get a better offer, while he still had a job. He would've been a better coordinator than BJ. Utah made a mistake when they passed over Gary Crowton, who by the way, is an offensive genious. He was not head coaching material. Would've helped the Utes. Roderick will do well at th Y.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:59 p.m.

    These comments are mostly silly.

    This might be good or bad for Utah, it may be good or bad for BYU, who knows? Oh yeah, nobody.

    What makes me angry is that in the pick his hat looks pink. Unacceptable.

    Jan. 16, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    BlueCoug, I just mentioned it on the Chip Kelly article, but it bears repeating: Roderick never coached against Utah's schemes except against a very simplified version during fall two-a-days and spring camps. He coached against the scout team running what the opposing defense was expected to run, with maybe a few of those players having a small chance to eventually be contributors on Utah's defense.

    Rockwell, so we should also not blame Weber at all for BYU's O Line this year never knowing the snap count or how to effectively block opposing defenses, so BYU fans had no reason to openly criticize and potentially run him into another program?

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    Welcome to BYU Coach A-Rod, sounds like a good hire. Let's get this offense rolling again.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:38 p.m.


    BYU's better record might have something to do with a patsy schedule. Utah beating BYU 8 out of the last 11 might have something to do with them being the better team.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:33 p.m.

    Head scratcher: why he would step backward. Bigger head scratcher - he made fun of byU a LOT! I guess he is just getting used to demotions or byU has promised him Anae's job when they dump Roscoe.

    Good luck to A-Rod, but byU better hope he does a better job with their WRs than he did at Utah.

  • Monk Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    Mixed feelings on Roderick. Receivers have not been great. Lots of drops. The talent was there but they rarely shined. But, Roderick seemed to be creative and on target with his playing calling. Please Kyle, do not get Doman to replace it.

  • Alterego Harrisville, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    What? This has to be wrong! PAC 10.2 schools don't lose coaches to an "irrelevant" institution.

    Maybe BYU is relevant after all....yeah, we knew it all along.

    Welcome Coach Roderick hope to see great things from the Cougar offense in years to come.

    Independence is working just fine.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:25 p.m.


    "Wow, I didn't think Utah would let him go."

    Utah didn't have a choice.

    After all of the times A-Rod had been stabbed in the back by Whit, even Utah's PAC 12 bankroll simply wasn't big enough to bribe Roderick to stay with a failing program any longer.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:18 p.m.


    "Utah's wide receivers have been average at best and drops were a huge problem."

    Don't blame A-Rod because his receivers weren't smart enough to run routes and had bricks for hands.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:14 p.m.

    It was only a matter of time before AR was going to leave the Utes after he was passed over. As a loyal Utah fan I wish him well, he was a quality coach for us. With that said, I hope his feelings are not hurt to bad when The Utes beat the Y for the 9th time out of 12 next fall.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    Great news for BYU fans; a punch in the gut to Utah fans, but they can blame Whit.

    Roderick felt slighted at Utah after being jacked around between wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator, back to wide receivers coach when Whittingham hired 25 year old Brian Johnson as the OC when Norm Chow left.

    Roderick knows Utah's defensive schemes intimately, having coached against Utah's defense every day in practice, and will be a great asset to BYU.

  • Sounds right.. Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    He realized after next year all the Utah coaches would be looking for jobs anyways. Great move for A rod. BYU has a much brighter future than the school up north. BYU always seems to have a better record but lately Utah has won the rivalry game. That goes to show they only care about that game and make it their super bowl. With that mentality you will never be a team better than 6-6
    Great day to be a coug fan

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    I actually have to agree with 54-10, utah's wr's have been pretty bad the last several years and Roderick was thier coach. I hope he is capable of doing a better job at BYU.

    Jan. 16, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    ARod was never one of my favorite coaches. Regardless, the best of luck to him in his new position. It'd be great to see Utah find an experienced offensive mind to work with BJ, but what I see more likely is something like Quinton Ganther being promoted from GA to RBs coach, and Jay Hill moving to receivers.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    This is the best news of the coaching overall at BYU. Getting Roderick back to BYU is huge. He was mismanaged at Utah. He was overlooked for their OC position and then asked to basically come in and try to salvage their season.

    Roderick is probably the best offensive coach in the state right now. I was hoping he would have replaced Doman, but this is almost as good.

    Nice...very nice.

    Jan. 16, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    Wow, I didn't think Utah would let him go. I guess he was still kind of hurt when he was over looked for the OC job.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    Good luck to Aaron on his new coaching job. He did a good job recruiting for Utah and did not do as good of a job as a wide receivers coach. Utah's wide receivers have been average at best and drops were a huge problem.