BYU football: Seattle prep QB Billy Green signs with BYU as mid-year enrollee (+video)

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  • 965 Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    "Here's the BYU QB pipeline - Hill, Munns, Olsen, Green, Kuresa, Mangum."

    What makes you think those recruits are any better than:

    Wilson, Manning, Cox, Hansen, and Schults.

    Heck, Adam Schultz proved he had a better arm in spring ball than any QB BYU has.

    And hes a walk-on by the way.

    "You're just a jealous cougar fool."

    Look up all the parody's p1jared did on youtube. Describes you guys so well.

    Jan. 15, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    While this really isn't 'new' news, it is a nick pick up for the Cougars and nothing negative from me about this young man. He is a very solid prospect.

    What is funny is a few of the fans that are already predicting the QB rotation for the next several years. My suggestion to so see if any of these kids actually turns into a real player, which kids unfortunately get hurt, and which kids follow in the Jake Heaps mold and can't handle the spotlight. The best QB to come out of the state in many, many years is Alex Smith. He was a 3 star prospect that turned into the #1 pick compared to Heaps who was the #1 prospect and turned into ...

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    @ Bluto

    Why attack a fellow Cougar??...I'm serious this kid is the real deal, if WE are chasing him and he signs with us he must be awesome. I know WE have a Heisman and the jealous Utes don't....wasn't aware of all the other cool awards WE have. Go Cougs!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:49 p.m.


    The article about the BYU commits actually had less info about any one commit than the one about the cb that just gave the utes a commit. For most of them it simply mentioned their names, nothing more.

    Once again Green is an actual SIGNEE and is attending school. That is a bit more of a story than some kid giving a verbal.

    But then again there is also the small fact that more people care about BYU, and BYU's recruits, than care about utah or its recruits. The stories about BYU attract far more readers. I know it hurts you that most people just don't care about utah but that is simply the fact. The evidence for that is that there are exactly zero comments from BYU fans on that ute commit article, and only 10 comments total. No one really cares. There are now 50 comments on this article with many of them from jealous utah "fans" like yourself. In otherwords EVERYONE cares.


  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:42 p.m.


    "First you have to find yourself this thing called a computer. Hook up to what is called the internet. Then go onto one of the recruiting sites (Scout, Rivals, ESPN) and find their profile. Each site shows that ONLY BYU offered this kid. Not too difficult, so hopefully you can now track this like the rest of America."

    And you can verify that the recruiting services are never wrong?
    And that their information is all encompassing?
    And that they're clairvoyant enough to know whether a school would have offered a scholarship, if a player wasn't already firmly committed to another school?
    And they have so much inside information that they know exactly what every school thinks about every recruit?

    The truth is, the information posted on the recruiting websites is spotty at best, and contains lots of speculation by the hundreds of contributors who couldn't possibly know enough about every recruit to accurately rate every recruit.

    The NFL can't even get it right every time and they're only evaluating several hundred candidates, not several thousand.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:20 p.m.


    Thank you for the education. And because it is posted on one of these websites that means it is true, correct? Because these websites have personal contact with every high school football player in America, the information is 100% accurate, correct? Or are you just assuming? I know that when my son was offered his scholarship, it didn't show up there. Just a word of caution, I have heard that everything posted on the internet isn't always true. There is this one site called Wikipedia that my teachers told me about once that allowed anyone to post whatever they wanted to the site. When I get my computer thing, I am going to check that out too. Hopefully at some point the U will offer the class on critical thinking to help the students reason for themselves, and not accept whatever they read on the internet. Good luck, and thanks again for the education.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:57 p.m.

    Since there are a lot of Utes trolling this thread with their usual hatred about a BYU athlete they know nothing about, help me understand the Utah QB pipeline. Wilson seems to have some talent, but if he goes down, who's next?

    Here's the BYU QB pipeline - Hill, Munns, Olsen, Green, Kuresa, Mangum.

    I'm feeling pretty good about the future. How about U?

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    @ IRS Agent

    You ask how I found out who actually offered this kid officially. It's pretty simple actually. First you have to find yourself this thing called a computer. Hook up to what is called the internet. Then go onto one of the recruiting sites (Scout, Rivals, ESPN) and find their profile. Each site shows that ONLY BYU offered this kid. Not too difficult, so hopefully you can now track this like the rest of America.

    @ Duckhunter

    If the newsworthy ranking of a story is based on whether or not a kid has "signed", then please explain the full write up on all the recruits for 2013 that haven't signed and their reaction to Robert Anae. They haven't signed, but still get the press in the DesNews. If you don't see the bias, you are clearly....CLEARLY blind.

    Last, Orphey being committed to BYU didn't stop Utah from offering him. So those saying Utah didn't offer because he committed to BYU is bogus spin too.

  • reasonableUTE Provo, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    Maybe Utah did want this guy... I have no idea. If so, congrats to BYU for beating the Utes out on this kid (assuming he pans out). Still doesn't change the fact that Utah has beaten BYU consistently, and will likely beat them this next year too. Fans will search for anything to brag about especially when their team has been losing to their rival on a regular basis.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    My thanks go out to all for your thoughtful and enlightening comments.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    @ Ute4Ever

    How exactly do you know that he wasn't offered a scholarship from Utah (or any of the other schools)? Does the athletic department send you an email each time they offer someone a scholarship? The news typically reports when an athlete makes a commitment, but not when a school offers a scholarship. I am just curious how it is that you come by all this knowledge, I am interested in tracking it myself.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:57 p.m.


    Agreed. Though I am still nervous for where Lowell is going to decide to go. Sounds like he had a great visit at BYU. Both Utah and BYU are pretty full on their recruiting class. Can't wait for the final game in a couple years between these two schools!

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:45 p.m.


    For what it's worth, according to ESPN, Billy Green is rated higher than Brandon Cox and Conner Manning, while Scout and Rivals have Cox and Manning as higher rated than Green.


    Nobody really knows anything. Recruiting is completely speculative. I'm sure both teams are happy with the recruiting classes they're bringing in.

    Go Cougars!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    First of all, good luck to the kid, he has to be a better fit than Heaps was. Second of all, sorry for all the Ute trollers on this story - I hate it when Y trollers continually buzz Utah articles. Thirdly, Utah may have shown interest in him, but he was never heavily recruited nor was he made on offer. I am not sure about any other schools, just Utah. I am also not sure why Utah never heavily recruited him. Nobody can make assertions, from either side, about how heavily recruited he was or who actually recruited him. In my humble opinion, most lists that show "interest" by a school are part reality and part fiction.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    Let's not fight over a 2-star recruit. We will let BYU have that QB while Utah continues to recruit talented players, including a DT-QB and a PP-QB, both with high ratings. Time will tell if Green will play well for BYU, no one knows. Look at what happened to Jake Heaps, couldn't hit the broad-side of a barn. I'll just continue to look at the facts that Utah is continuing to impress recruits and has had 2 commitments from what BYU thought were "solid" commitments for them.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:50 a.m.


    There is a difference in the two stories, let me help you.

    The CB reported about in the utah section is only a VERBAL COMMIT, he has not signed and can still choose to change his mind and go elsewhere. This QB for BYU has actually SIGNED and is now a scholarship athlete at BYU. There is a huge difference there. One is a verbal commit, one has actually signed and is now attending school. I don't expect much from you utah "fans" anyway but surely even you can see the difference in the newsworthiness of each situation?

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:49 a.m.


    IF you were soooo concerned about the brevity of the article about the Utah recruit, why didn't you seek more information from Dirk YESTERDAY, instead of jealously whining about it on the article about a BYU recruit?

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    Welcome to BYU, however, numbers don't matter, nor whether you are a great guy. Unless you buddy up to Bronco, you will never play, unless forced to play you because of some catastrophe.

    I've always loved BYU, but I now question what we are about. A year ago, we heard about how great Joe Dupaix and Ben Cahoon are, and Cahoon we know and love as a former great at BYU. Now? At the drop of a hat--both fired. Nice.

    How do we fans embrace Anae, who walked out on our team, and now fires the great coaches that were hired such a short time ago. I, for one, am tired of the BYU lack of commitment to the coaches.

    Love Doman, but hope for HIS sake, he finds a truly great place to coach. As a long-time True BYU Fan, I question where it is we are, and where we are going! I'm tired of the pulling out chairs from people who are about to sit down, letting them fall on their behinds, with nair so much as an I'm sorry.

    Tom? Bronco? Explanations? We pay the tickets, gentlemen. We are the fans.

  • Solomon the Wise Alpine, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Quotes from the DNews article last summer:

    "I was able to talk to a few of the non-LDS players and they let me know of what it's like for them," said Green. "I still have some questions and things I need to sort out, but I like the standards at BYU and it's the same standards I grew up with."

    Green hopes to make his commitment by the end of the month with BYU being a strong possibility. Schools such as Washington, Washington State, Utah, Arizona and Oregon State have all shown interest with the two Washington schools showing the most.

    "I've been able to see both Washington and Washington State a lot and I'm very familiar with both programs and their coaching staffs," said Green. "Both schools might be close to offering, so we'll see what happens, but I definitely want to decide where I'm going to sign within the next week."

    It seems that Billy knows a lot more about how and why he chose BYU, than some of the misinformed comments from bloggers.

  • dutgut Saint George, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:25 a.m.

    Wearing the only pair of pants you own is still a choice. You can always go with nothing...if you so choose!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:19 a.m.


    Sorry to burst your arrogant, misinformed crimson bubble, but the truth is you have absolutely no idea how interested those other schools on the list were in Billy, nor whether a scholarship offer would have been forthcoming IF he'd been interested in them.

    It's laughable that our jealous friends on the hill pretend to be sooooo knowledgeable about every single BYU recruit, when in fact, you don't have a shred more information than any other blogger.

    Not having a Utah offer, doesn't mean he wouldn't have been offered by Utah if he hadn't made it clear that he was only interested in BYU. It's not like Utah has an over-abundance of talented QBs.

  • Jumpyman Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Why does the Deseret News write a long story about a BYU recruit and a two paragraph story on a Utah recruit? The answer is simple... the Deseret News obviously has more readers who care about BYU than care about Utah football. There are more BYU fans around Utah and the Nation than Utah fans. It is a fact of life and the Deseret News is going to publish stories that carry more interest.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    It's great having Billy join the team for Spring Ball! Welcome aboard!



    Another frantic and emotional response from a Utah troll.

    Why would you even bother reading and commenting about a BYU recruit when you had absolutely nothing to say about the Ute recruit?

    Scouts lists every one of the schools mentioned in the article. What difference does it matter to U whether those schools were meerly interested in or actively recruiting Green?

    It's very possible that schools that were interested in Green last summer, turned their attention to other recruits after Billy committed to BYU.

    Get over your jealousy and stop obsessiong about all things BYU.

  • 32843 PROVO, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    @ Y Grad/Y Dad

    "he is another non-Mormon who WANTS to attend BYU and play for BYU because of the values of the institution."

    I don't think you can know that unless he specifically stated such in an interview. Without having looked into it myself, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not expressing a biased opinion based on your perception of BYU. However, I'm willing to wager that a non-Mormon QB has decided to come to BYU for many of the same reasons Jim McMahon came to BYU. In ADDITION to the values BYU represents, I'll bet he's coming to BYU because BYU tends to develop good QB's into great QB's, Nelson/Heaps notwithstanding.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    @ Just the Fax

    You say "he chose BYU". I think there is a fundamental problem with your line of thinking...which is EXACTLY the reason for my post. He DIDN'T chose anything. If I wake up in the morning and only have 1 pair of pants to wear, it isn't a "choice" to wear those pants. Green didn't have ANY other offers, so he didn't chose BYU.

    Unless you are referring to him choosing to play football at BYU as opposed to attend another University as a regular student, there was not choice to be made on which school to play for. He only HAD 1 offer, so there was no choice.

    Before I have 20 BYU fans jumping down the throats of Utah fans, he DIDN'T have a Utah offer and didn't chose to play at BYU over ANY other school.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    *spring drills

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    ute4ever and other jealous Utah trolls

    Why are U so obsessed with a BYU recruit who (and here's the real story of the article) has now signed and enrolled at BYU and will be available to participate in sprint drills?

    There was nothing misleading about the story. Several schools besides BYU did show interest in Green, but he chose BYU. Couldn't a simple letter to a recruit be considered "recruiting"?

    Why are you getting your boxers in a bunch over a simple list of the other schools who recruited Green?

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    Tilka, he did not make that mistake. He did not schedule a new conference and say he was coming here to be the future of BYU, thus alienating his team members, who had already labored long and hard, then this phenom comes along and says he will be the future. You don't get any points or confidence from other team members. Billy is glad to be here and accepted the scholarship without great fanfare. He saw what Jake did and he is smart enough not to duplicate it.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    We predict no bowl for Utah.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:39 a.m.


    If you really want to smell a Heisman...
    There is one in Provo at BYU's Legacy Hall.
    While there, you can also smell all 19 National Awards given to BYU players.

    While Utah still has none.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    I predict a future Beef O Brady bowl MVP!!

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:28 a.m.


    You mean the 2 paragraph story about a new cornerback committ yeserday for Utah that was run by the DesNews? That was a good read....all 100 words. Good story though, having flipped his committment from Virginia to Utah. Sounds like a pretty skilled kid.

    Compare that to the kid Green, who committed to BYU 6 months ago, who is now getting a full blown story about him, including misleading information about how wanted he was.

    Interesting comparing the newsworthy material that gets skipped to make room for the non-story, like Green.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Let's make sure we are all VERY clear here. The term "recruited" in this article is being used very, very loosely. This kid is a 2 star (as rated by Scout and Rivals) and did not have any other offers on the table other than BYU. He did not "turn down" offers from any other school. He didn't spurn Utah or Notre Dame. I'm pretty sure these schools listed as "being recruited by" have their sights set on bigger prospects than a 2 star. Maybe "being recruited by" in Billy Green's case is a school asking for his high school tape to look at, even if they never called back afterwards. I guess anything is a step up from the 2012 QB at BYU though.

    Plus, Rivals says he committed about 6 months ago, so this really isn't a news story.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Texas prep cornerback Hipolito Corporan commits to Utah:

    NINE comments since yesterday - NONE by BYU fans

    Seattle prep QB Billy Green signs with BYU as mid-year enrollee:

    TWENTY-ONE comments in an hour - including the first by a jealous Utah fan

    Obsessed much?

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:02 a.m.


    "Somebody please clarify for me how his future success as a player depends on us pinning down exactly who "showed interest," who "actually wanted" him, and who offered him a scholarship?"

    It doesn't; but for some, the number of stars placed next to a recruit's name seem to be an obsession.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:00 a.m.


    Respectfully, I disagree with your entire premise, as I understood it.

    I believe yours is a thinly veiled reference to Jake Heaps. The inability to successfully integrate Jake into the blue collar mentality had nothing to do with the strong personality and everything to do with the blue collar.

    If there is any lesson to be learned, it is that a 5 star athlete who wants to play at BYU is not necessarily enough to be declared a match made in heaven.

    And while Billy appears to be a fine catch, I'm willing to wager that our ute brethren will deride your description of him as a blue chipper. They are (far too) focused on stars, and I think I read Billy's rating around 2.

    What makes Billy a great story is that he is another non-Mormon who WANTS to attend BYU and play for BYU because of the values of the institution. He does not appear to be worried about Bronco's ability to handle talented quarterbacks.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    On a side note:

    It's being reported that former Boston College QB, current Sacramento State OC Paul Peterson has interviewed at BYU. Paul played at Bingham High, was an offensive graduate assistant at BYU in 2005 under Robert Anae, then moved on to SUU for 4 years.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    Welcome to Cougar Nation Billy - wishing you great success both on and off the gridiron.

    BYU's QB cupboard is well stocked with talent.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    Somebody please clarify for me how his future success as a player depends on us pinning down exactly who "showed interest," who "actually wanted" him, and who offered him a scholarship? I'm baffled.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    And we all know how credible Rivals is. Very political.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    He's a good QB. I watched him destroy a very good Arch Bishop Murphy team here in WA. I don't think he's better than Mangum, but time will tell. Either way, BYU's future QB situation looks pretty dang bright!

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Welcome aboard Billy - it's great to have you joining Cougar Nation!


    I'm sure Billy could set the record straight on how heavily he was recruited by other schools, but according to Scout, Colorado, Idaho, Notre Dame, Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Washington State, and Wyoming, all showed interest in Billy.

    Just so they can sleep at night,, however, I'll leave it up to our jealous friends on the hill to draw the line between "interested in" and "wanted".

    For a bunch who supposedly left BYU "in there dust" almost three years ago, they still seem awfully obsessed with BYU.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    I smell a Heisman or 2. No doubt a couple of BCS games. Billy Football rolls off the tongue quite nice thank you!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    I doubt anyone here knows just what actually happened. So, maybe what the article says is correct about who recruited him.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    According to Rivals, BYU was the only school recruiting Green. I thought maybe it was because he had already committed, but that is not the case. So maybe in his early years he was shown interest by a couple of other schools, but in the end, he was only wanted by BYU.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 15, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    Awesome, sounds like a great athlete. Welcome to BYU Mr. Green, you've made a fantastically awesome choice!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    He was recruited by Notre Dame, Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Washington and Washington State, but the fact that he committed to BYU last summer and never showed any interest in any of the other schools that were recruiting him probably discouraged any other schools from offering a scholarship.

    Regardless, he's a great young man and a nice addition to BYU's QB depth chart for the next 4 years.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Jan. 15, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Lets hope he doesn't turn out like the last Seattle area quarterback....

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    RE: Mountaman

    I don't think he actually had five offers, he simply was being recruited by them. Regardless he's a nice pick up for the Cougs.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    What's this? A football player turning down offers from five (5) Pac 12 schools to play at BYU? Imagine that!

  • 5 Orem, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    I hope Bronco has learned how to deal with, integrate, and motivate a blue chip skilled position athlete. If this article is what it seems and is representing Green as a blue chipper. Skill position blue chippers tend to be strong personalities, hence their ability to deal with the pressures of the positions, especially quarterback. Bronco has not shown the ability to incorporate that type of athlete into his "blue collar" team concept.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:37 a.m.


    It never works out the way you might project.
    Rumor has it Mangum may not take a mission now.

    Let's just hope that Anae will leave the QB race wide open and allow the best man to get the job.
    We've all had eonough with Coaches making decisions based upon emotional attachments.

    See Feterick...Nelson

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:24 a.m.


    And you would know this how?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:17 a.m.

    Ruh roh, Chris B is not going to be a happy Ute / BCS fan today. Already discouraged by basketball this might push him over the edge. We can only hope.

    As a fan of a 'irrelevant' independent football team it amazes me that BYU can even field a team if I believed the way 'others' look at BYU.

    But in all honesty the best part of being a Cougar fan is knowing that very often BYU gets great recruits because of its coaches and its program.

    Congrats to Billy for choosing BYU. Welcome to Provo, where the tradition of great football lives on.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 15, 2013 6:27 a.m.

    Stranger things have happened, but it seems odd that he would enroll early from high school when the logical procession would be for him to redshirt his freshman year, then back-up the next two years, then hopefully be a star his Junior and Senior seasons.

    2013 - Hill, Munns, Olsen, Green (RS)
    2014 - Hill, Olsen, Green
    2015 - Hill, Green, Kuresa, Mangum (RS)
    2016 - Green, Mangum, Kuresa
    2017 - Green, Mangum
    2018 - Mangum
    2019 - Mangum

    This puts us back on track to start a Junior / Senior, instead of younger players.

    Hopefully, Kafentzis will be in the mix also.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:03 a.m.

    "Green was also recruited by Notre Dame, Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Washington and Washington State."

    This is incorrect. Good luck to Green though and congratulations.