When violent movies succeed at the box office: 5 things to know

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  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 8, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Nan implies she has knowledge of the state of the others' consciences. What gall. I'm wondering how she came about this knowledge. I thoroughly enjoy Tarantino's films, so apparently I'm harboring a guilty conscience? Must be nice to have figured everyone out by what films they happen to enjoy.

    My conscience may or may not be in pristine, gently used or heavily soiled condition, but I do know the difference between reality and make believe, and my kids do too. You don't dig on violent shows; goody for you. Violence has been entertaining people ever since entertainment has existed. Shakespeare, for one, was a sick puppy. Being able to enjoy "Django Unchained" has zero, bupkis, notta, zilch, less than none to do with my inclination to help "alleviate suffering." That is, REAL suffering.

    As for the earlier dig at Tarantino being a "grown man going on 12," that's exactly why he makes great movies. There are plenty of directors with good table manners. QT isn't bogged down by the desire to keep things within the bounds of good taste. That appeals to you or it doesn't.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    Jan. 7, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    To me, violence has the result that someone suffers (whether in reality or in the imagination). Why does anyone find that which causes suffering to be entertaining or appealing? I don't spend any money on movies so I don't help keep the violent producers or the family friendly producers in business, but I'll gladly try to help alleviate suffering when I can. I wish we were more interested in helping out humanity, and other creatures of the planet, than being entertained by pathetic productions. No doubt I'm out of touch, but my conscience is in better condition.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    @Eric Samuelsen,

    I'd like to see your "evidence" of no connection or that violent movies somehow decrease violence. Weird.

    i've got plenty of research on my side.

  • The Final Word Alpine, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    I doubt for the vast majority of people/kids the violence portrayed has little tangible effect. The problem is that there is a very small % of people, like with most things, where it does/can have an effect. I suspect that is why the "evidence" is lacking with respect to a causal relationship. It simply happens in very small %'s and therefore is difficult to capture or measure.

    I have two boys in my house and they both game the same amount (I put a timer on the xbox) and the behavior of one clearly demonstrate to me, in my opinion, there is undoubtedly a link. Also an observable difference between gaming or not gaming at all and the amountof time playing.

    That being said it is not reasonable to use the "shotgun" approach to this and ban everything for everyone. I just have to be diligent in adjusting the environment and be more observant with that particular son since he is more susceptible.

    The duplicitous behavior of hollywood is despicable yet totally predictable. They pour out the violence and profit from the violence yet can't wait to look holier-than-thou standing in front of a camera.


  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    I have a visceral and mental reaction to these 'chainsaw' type movies. For me, the effect of the movie on the viewer is real. To that, I react the best way I can. I stay away.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    "Movies are about make-believe. It's about imagination. Part of the thing is we're trying to create a realistic experience, but we are faking it. And the faking it is the art."
    - Quentin Tarentino

    Art? Tarantino called it disrespectful to victims of Newtown to link the tragedy to movies. In the same interview, he used the words “fun” and “cool” to describe the graphic violence in his latest film, Django. It’s his right to call his filmmaking art. But his Oscar and Golden Globe won’t impress me much as long as he keeps using film to treat violence as a comic farce. Good fiction is a lie that helps us to see a nobler truth. When Tarantino says things like said in the interview, he’s talking like a grown man going on twelve.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    Also, there's no evidence linking violent movies to violent behavior, and a great deal of evidence to the contrary.

  • Mukkake Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    Yes, it certainly can't be that these movies are successful because people actually like them (I didn't see any of them, but not because they're violent, they just don't appeal to me).

    It must be because there weren't many other options, they had some stars that were relevant to certain demographics, and because they were successfully marketed.

    Only violent movies achieve success under these conditions right?

    (Obviously the Deseret News is trying to make excuses, as they constantly try to convince us all movies should be "family friendly, as these are the movies that make the most money. Of course, a profit is a profit. Many family movies fail, despite making 100s of millions of dollars, because they cost even more to make.)

    Hooray for niche markets. The free market at work.

    I can't wait till The Last Stand comes out. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kim Ji-woon, and Lionsgate... fanatstic.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    Until enough people raise a stink about it, nothing will change. This is one of the ironies of America: we call ourselves (mostly) Christian and yet love violence as a form of entertainment and see nothing wrong with hoarding assault weapons in our homes.